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SNR and CCQ in WiFiWave2

Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:45 pm

Our company (a FttH ISP) recently started shipping hAP ax2 (we used to ship hAP ac2).

All routers are managed / provisioned from our own system, with the new ax2 we decided to implement wifiwave2 (because of significant better performance).

We've adjusted all provisioning code to support both traditional 'wireless' and 'wifiwave2'...

But it seems that the WiFiWave2 API is missing information about clients Signal-to-Noise (SNR) and (TX)CCQ, or am I missing someting?

[.id] => *30
[interface] => wifi1
[ssid] => SSID
[mac-address] => F0:B6:1E:60:XX:XX
[uptime] => 12h43m54s
[signal] => -52
[tx-rate] => 864700000
[rx-rate] => 907400000
[packets] => 10408116,6375349
[bytes] => 5060034187,3146844269
[tx-bits-per-second] => 8984
[rx-bits-per-second] => 30680
[authorized] => true

We use these (SNR, TXCCQ) values to visualize the wireless performance of specific wireless clients.
 
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Re: SNR and CCQ in WiFiWave2

Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:31 am

It's not that we necessarily need the SNR of TXCCQ values, but some value about connection quality would be highly appreciated.
And I'm sure that this is available since WebFig is able to visualize the performance (height and color in the clients graph).
 
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Re: SNR and CCQ in WiFiWave2

Wed May 03, 2023 11:08 am

Just checked with RouterOS 7.9 but no difference, still no information about wireless link quality..

[.id] => *1
[interface] => wifi2
[ssid] => Studios070-XXXX
[mac-address] => A0:92:08:CC:0B:B6
[uptime] => 21s
[signal] => -32
[tx-rate] => 1000000
[rx-rate] => 2000000
[packets] => 17,22
[bytes] => 2361,3536
[tx-bits-per-second] => 0
[rx-bits-per-second] => 0
[authorized] => true

It does still have this 'signal' but its an absolute value telling nothing about the noise floor, so not the actual SNR..
 
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Re: SNR and CCQ in WiFiWave2

Wed May 03, 2023 11:24 am

wifiwave2 is an implementation of drivers from the manufacturer of the chipset, rather than an in-house written driver (which wireless is).
So there are many small details that are missing or incomplete... this is only one of them.

We can only hope that over time, some things are coming back. But likely not everything will come back, as MikroTik likely want to avoid the situation that
the drivers are modified so heavily that it again becomes an enormous job to integrate a new release from the manufacturer...
 
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Re: SNR and CCQ in WiFiWave2

Wed May 03, 2023 11:42 am

(and given how the market is now, focusing on a chipset that you don't know how long you can find, could be a big waste of time...)
 
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Re: SNR and CCQ in WiFiWave2

Fri May 05, 2023 1:15 pm

wifiwave2 is an implementation of drivers from the manufacturer of the chipset, rather than an in-house written driver (which wireless is).
So there are many small details that are missing or incomplete... this is only one of them.

We can only hope that over time, some things are coming back. But likely not everything will come back, as MikroTik likely want to avoid the situation that
the drivers are modified so heavily that it again becomes an enormous job to integrate a new release from the manufacturer...
Hi this makes sense! But it seems that the WebFig / Quickset interface has some more information than disclosed via the API.
The WebFig/Quickset interface shows additionally to the signal some colored bar-graph.

These bars do not simply seem to be a historical graph of the signal value, since the bars change over time while the signal value seems stable.

If indeed this additional information is available internally, then they could easily make it available through the API.

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