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Payement system that User Manager should support

Paypal
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Google Checkout
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Authorise.net
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Something that is not in the list?
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Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:11 am

What kind of Payment systems do you prefer using? What kind of system should we support first as the most widely used one? Maybe there are others that we don't mention here?
 
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PayPal/Authorize are good, but how about creating an open system to allow integration with local banks?
 
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Quickbooks Merchant Services for Credit Cards.

http://www.quickbooksmerchantservice.com/

Merry Christmas!
 
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i almost removed your post as spam ...
 
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I've used both authorize.net and paypal, and I would have to say authorize.net is easier to use for both the ISP and the customer. The easier it is to get through a hotspot, the more people will be inclined to use it.

#1 Authorize.net (very popular, easy, open, professional, widely supported)
#2 Paypal (very common, convenient, changes often, less professional, more mom and pop style)
#3 Worldpay (commonly supported in many applications and billing systems)

Many companies already use authorize.net because they have very competitive rates, an easy to integrate API, and it's compatible with many 3rd party ecommerce and billing programs, so the likelyhood of it being able to work with your existing billing system is a huge plus, many might find they only need one processor to handle an unlimited number of Hotspots including your main billing package.


Here's an example of how simple it is to setup Authorize.net (once you allow the API)

Merchant ID xxxxxxx
Merchant Password xxxxxxx
Merchant Transaction Key xxxxxxx
Payment Gateway https://secure.authorize.net/xxxx

You can also apply to become resellers (i.e. Mikrotik could be a reseller and help ISP's setup their own Merchant Account and Mikrotik would make a small amount of revenue from doing that while allowing the ISP to get great merchant service rates and a simple setup)

Will any of these be added into 2.9 or do we have to wait until 3.0?
 
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we have made the authorize.net payment system, please look at this topic
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=60848

Now we will start to work on PayPal.
 
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Hi Uldis

Are we going to see PayPal integrated into User Manager at the MUM next week?
 
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Hi Uldis

Are we going to see PayPal integrated into User Manager at the MUM next week?
not yet :( It will be in the middle/end of the February. We started to work on the new GUI for Usermanager that's why all is going so slow.
 
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Mid-end Feb for Paypal :cry: Guess that will give me some more time to get our hotspots ready to roll out.
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:51 am

come on! it's less than two weeks until february :)
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:59 am

Yeah, but we are like kids waiting for Christmas to come. :D
 
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well it is feb 5th any updates??? already bought a level 6 lieses and installing it in the server to implement this
 
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Its down to a week and we'll have Paypal integration. :D
 
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Canyou also provide som interface that can use custom payment service. Since UserManager is isolated form external databases, it would be good if it can use info from external source about payments or payment status for users.

That would allow developing (or using) third partu applcation for money acounting and let MT interact with it.
 
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:)
 
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according to firebat it should be here ... well, yesterday i saw a test of it, which means it's working. you will have to wait for the next routeros release probably.
 
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Thanks Normis. That's good news. I hope the new release comes out soon.... :D
 
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Can you add recharging accounts with prepaid vouchers?

Thanks. :D
 
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:08 am

Normis:

Which Router OS version will Paypal integration be in?
 
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? :)
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:11 am

should be in beta 6 or 7
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:49 am

should be in beta 6 or 7
:shock: It won't be in 2.9.41 or .42?
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:52 am

all new features go into v3, all fixes go into 2.9 (we want to fix it until it's stabile, and then move on to v3). this is not exacly news
 
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OK. Well...you can't really run a production hotspot on Beta code. :?

Any idea when a non 3.0 Beta will be released that will support it?
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:48 pm

you are contradicting yourself, because you were asking for paypal. paypal is not tested yet, it will be it's first public test (beta). it doesn't matter in which ROS it is in, user manager will still be untested.

edit: I have good news for you ...
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Mana ... nts#PayPal
 
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Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:10 am

Thanks Normis. I meant Paypal beta is OK but not on top of a OS Beta. I see it says 2.9.41 availablity. :o Now, when will 2.9.41 appear :D
 
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paypal will be killer! any word on 2.9.41? tks
 
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currently it is already integrated into the 3.0beta6 Usermanger package. You can test it out.
For the documentation look on the wikipage:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Mana ... nts#PayPal
 
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I have 3.0B6 loaded, and the UserManager customer is set as a Owner / subscriber.
I do not see the box for Authosise.net of PayPal.
The system shows "use https" next to authorise.net and as NO PayPal option.

I have installed a https Cert and enabled ssl.

Next ?

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did you used https when opening the usermanager?
Have you used the usermanger package that is specified on the website - redownload it.
 
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can you turn off email sign up verfication for sign ups.. this is almost a deal killer for me, that new hotspot users will need to be able to access email to access the hotspot.


also can you customize the http://router_IP/user page? I only want my new users to see: buy credits, view credits, view payments.

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Re downloaded and installed User-manager package.
http://IP/userman = login page (No payment options)
https://IP/userman = Page cannot be displayed.
http://IP/user = Login page, No valid logins (None accepted)
https://IP/user = Page cannot be displayed.

Env = 3.0 B6
Platform = I386

What next?

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Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:32 pm

craig, I was getting all kinds of issues like this as well. Maybe a bug.

but what i did to fix it was weird. I had 10.10.x.x subnet on my Hotspot, and my local ethernet IP of the board i was testing it on wass 192.168.1.234.

Now when i acessed 192.168.1.234/sigup or /user or anything it worked fine and authenticated new accounts everything as stated.

so i had to go back to the hotspot and allow 192.168.1.234 as a walled garden and set the hotspot to 192.168.1.234.

maybe be a bug as this feature should have worked normally after set up from any wifi client.
 
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This issue comes from both sides of the router.
From Authed clients, it comes from both legs of the router.
From stations on the "far end" or gateway side of the router I get the same..

Craig
 
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OK...
I have no rhime or reason, but the PayPal "module" magicly apeared.

I am not sure if it was a package reload, a reboot etc...
But there the checkbox is...

This is via a non https connection.

I must now play with this more...

I will post as I get further with testing..

Great work MikroTik !!

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Probably browser cached a lot of information, then few pages may load incorrectly.
It is recommended to clear browser cache or push F5, when new verison of User Manager installed.
 
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:05 am

Are there any plans to support paypal website payments pro?

https://www.paypal.com/IntegrationCente ... _home.html

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Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:13 am

Paypal I like it, when I use 2.9.44 user manage I use it pay to myself, it just testing if I can get paid.
Authorize.net I go verisign website try 14day free but I don't know how to setup,so not go thru.
google,don't care ,I have no time to try,may be later.
 
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:07 am

Someone once requested for the code to be made open, so that it will be possible to make use of your own local banking institution. Is there any progress on this?
 
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:23 pm

Giepie, currently there is not any plans for such feature.
 
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:06 am

As for me I will like to see a feature that will allow clients to recharge their accounts by purchasing vouchers at the roadside.
Also a payment option using the ATM card (Interswitch ATM Debit card, http://www.interswitchng.com)
 
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:29 am

2CheckOut is a well know payment gateway and used world wide .. Not like the PayPal or Authorize.net as they do not support all countries.
It supports 3rd party integration, so you just need to have a look on it and integrate it with user-manager.
Check this page for more info: http://www.2checkout.com/community/blog/tag/parameters/

I think that 2CheckOut is Authorize.net & PayPal reseller while it is the best solution to use for any country worldwide. So, you can use to process CreditCard and Paypal payments using the same account and it supports elecronic check and PayPal pay later service

Another idea is to add customized values, so we can add any payment gateway some billing systems can do (http://www.modernbill.com having many ideas could be shared with the user-maneger).

I've added a vote to the wiki's requested features for the 2CheckOut, I hope to find other interested people voting for it also.

Before I forget, the 2CheckOut website is: http://www.2checkout.com or http://www.2co.com

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It's possible to make usermanager compatible with VISA¿? Here in Spain people don't use paypal or autorize.net..

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We are consider different ways, how you can get payment in the requested way.
Do you know any system, that we can use to implement credit card charging inside User Manager ?
 
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With Radius Manager 3 you can Pay by VISA but I don't know how. I'm installing it now to test this, but I don't know any system to do this. I'm working on it.
For doing this you need a local bank account with this system or a company that works with many banks. Here in Spain is called TPV Virtual (Virtual Point of sale) and every bank has his own Virtual TPV:

This is a company that avoid the necessity of make a contract with a bank.
http://www.e-tpv.com/e-tpv/html/modules ... age&pid=91




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We are consider different ways, how you can get payment in the requested way.
Do you know any system, that we can use to implement credit card charging inside User Manager ?
Business-OnlinePayment:
http://search.cpan.org/~jasonk/Business ... ment-2.01/

used also by the open source freeside ISP billing system.

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Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:42 pm

Giepie, currently there is not any plans for such feature.
Sergejs,

In South Africa we cannot accept Paypal or Authorize.net due to currency control restrictions.

We would dearly like to be able to interface with a generic User Manager Payment System.

Has the situation changed any, would it be possible to do this now?

Perhaps you could tell us what cookie / username / password parameters could be parsed on the HotSpot login page, then we could try to create a script which 'fakes' login after successful transfer from our custom gateway?
 
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Is there any way that we provide users with scratch card voucher, and by using this scratch card, user can create/refresh his own account?
 
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Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:07 pm

http://www.moneybookers.com is pretty popular, especially for those who cannot use paypal.
 
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Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:27 am

Can we use the API in some way to use 3rd party systems like paymentexpress.com? or even our own system? Usermanager could redirect to defined site with the varibles excluding credit card info via http post and then our site could take the credit card info and if approved redirect back to usermanager with an accpet or decline variable in the redirect?
 
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:36 pm

custom 3rd party, would be great, since i'm living in South Africa, and none of those payment modules support South African places.

Want to make use of www.netcash.co.za CC API
 
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Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:56 pm

custom 3rd party, would be great, since i'm living in South Africa, and none of those payment modules support South African places.

Want to make use of http://www.netcash.co.za CC API

I second Jeeva in this request.

Netcash is the only payment gateway aimed at the smaller service provider. Paypal is not very popular, as for many years they stopped accepting South African Credit Cards.

If I can make a suggestion, I feel it would be nice if User Manager could implement payment gateways for each country so everyone has at least one payment gateway. For SA, Netcash is the right one to choose.

I know Netcash is now fully working in Radius Manager by DMA Softlabs.

Many thanks, G
 
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Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:28 pm

I second Giepie on that one.I played with Radius Manager not so long ago and found their integration with netcash.It would be very useful for us to do an all in one sollution in user manager rather than setup an uncessary radius server.In South Africa our choices are harshly governed.Our Tax revenue service prohibits paypal and authorize.net as they can't monitor our income on those type of accounts.Please Mikrotik,integrate user manager with netcash or at least let us somehow parse the correct files in order to do so.
 
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Wed May 06, 2009 10:13 pm

custom 3rd party, would be great, since i'm living in South Africa, and none of those payment modules support South African places.

Want to make use of http://www.netcash.co.za CC API
we don't quite understand how that netcash work.
Please send us some info how it is working - maybe some links.
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 1:06 am

Hi uldus

I sent an email to Netcash requesting some info. I also asked for them to send a mail to support at mikrotik dot com. I sent them the link of this thread incase they wish to join the forum.

Unfortunately I have not used Netcash before as User Manager doesn't support it, thus I can't give you all the answers. Hopefully they themselves could provide you with all the info.

Many thanks for prioritising the Netcash request!} It is much appreciated!

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Thu May 07, 2009 10:50 am

Hi all

Great news!

Netcash replied to me with the following message:

"Hi Giepie,

Many thanks for your enquiry and for your enthusiastic support for Netcash on the forum and I will be only too happy to contact the necessary individuals at Mikrotik as requested.

However, I do need to point out that our existing credit card gateway product will be undergoing changes in the next few months, if not sooner. Due to pressure from the banks we have had to re-evaluate our credit card business model and how we facilitate the processing of credit card transactions. Since these changes are due to be implemented shortly I think that you will agree with me that it would not be worth Mikrotik’s programmers’ time to spend any time on developing integration with our existing gateway product.

I would be interested in your feedback in this regard. Please feel free to contact me with any questions that you may have."

Jerry, the guy who contacted me from Netcash, will be making contact with the Mikrotik support email address. I also suggested he join the forum.

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Thu May 07, 2009 10:55 am

is netcash limited to citizens of South Africa, or other people can use it too? Does one have to register with an SA issued credit card?

I think that many countries have their own payment systems, which would eventually make us support a lot. Maybe some kind of API would be a better idea.

Just thinking out loud
 
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Wed May 20, 2009 4:12 pm

I've also spoken with netcash,unfortunately they busy changing their systems at the moment so it wouldnt be viable for Mikrotik and themselves to get involved at the moment.I've done some investigative work and found another provider called Setcom www.setcom.com They offer a new service similar to Paypal whereby you don't require a merchant account from your bank,and best part is that the service is available in 200 countries including South Africa!! So Mikrotik,how does it sound?Obviously its not a service for just South African's but everyone else worldwide too.

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Wed May 20, 2009 4:30 pm

I also forgotten to mention that Setcom has no joining fees as well as no monthly fees,they only charge per transaction and you can transfer the money in your setcom account to your bank account at any time.So i think it would be a service beneficial to all
 
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Thu May 21, 2009 10:55 am

setcom looks like a scam site to me, but maybe it's just outdated design. we will look into any possibilities, thank you for suggestions.
 
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Thu May 21, 2009 11:34 am

Is there anyone, who really is using Setcom? Because I would not give my credit card to an unknown system. And 200 country list looks suspicious - I don't understand, how they managed to make contracts with so many institutions with different laws and rights. Even PayPal does not have such a wide range of supported banks.
 
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:20 am

this is the only way in India for net banking http://www.abcpayments.com
I would liek to use this
 
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:11 pm

I checked the abcpayments system. It has several payment methods. But all of them end with a step "Merchant approves the payment in his merchant admin panel", meaning that it is not possible to make automatic payments without human interaction. Or am I wrong?
 
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:08 am

In Germany we have different Payment system which i would use in my hotspot.

For Example:

http://www.giropay.de/ is a payment system by the three biggest banks in germany.
http://www.micropayment.deis a payment system where you can use your mobile phone or other ways to pay.
 
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Netcash support would definately rock!

I realised today that a TiK is definately going to solve my hotspot problems but on my journey to find a Payment Gateway i hit a brick wall ;-(
 
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+1 for netcash
 
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Any progress with Netcash?
 
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Netcash website doesn't have any information on how to integrate it. Anyone find any more info maybe?
 
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Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:14 am

All the info required is in the attached file. I have more docs, but they are not technical.

It looks too easy :-)
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Also, on the Netcash admin site you can define the accept and reject url after the transaction.
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Does it work with usermanager?
 
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Does it work with usermanager?
no, but jacquesloubser posted this info, so tha MikroTik considers adding support. if there is enough demand
 
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Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:51 pm

Many thanks to Jacques for the info and to Mikrotik for considering adding Netcash.

You most certainly have my vote reqeust for Netcash support.

Many people here in South Africa are completely forced to use RadiusManager, due to UM not supporting Netcash.

How about starting a poll so we can vote for Netcash?

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Does it work with usermanager?
no, but jacquesloubser posted this info, so tha MikroTik considers adding support. if there is enough demand
If Mikrotik adds support, we will purchase a level 6 license immediately and use your radius instead...

We are also stuck using radius manager which is giving us nightmares
 
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We use RadiusManager without problems.. only they have to fix the csv export but works fine for us.

I need that someone who used Radius manager and now uses usermanager tell me why they changed.

With usermanager you can log all the user connection? like the CTS of Radius Manager?

Thanks,
 
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We use RadiusManager without problems.. only they have to fix the csv export but works fine for us.

I need that someone who used Radius manager and now uses usermanager tell me why they changed.

With usermanager you can log all the user connection? like the CTS of Radius Manager?

Thanks,

I prefer UserManager above any other FreeRADIUS based product (or any other RADIUS product for that matter). Using FreeRADIUS with eg Dialup_Admin, you need to do lots of customization to fit your needs. RadiusManager is great, but when you run into problems its slightly more advanced to repair. Many people don't have Linux skills, neither coding skills to customise it to their liking.

UserManager is a great product, very little customisation needed. In order to pull reports and add extra functionality, you could write scripts that does everything for you.

Have a look on the Wiki for Krige's usage notification script, it's a GREAT example of what could be done for UM.

I myself wrote my own version, based on Krige's script, but customised to my needs. I even wrote an automatic invoicing system, running on RouterOS together with UM. It took me about 7 hours to write the initial part of the Accounting part of the script, so there might still be some bugs (none yet) and now I can customise it to MY needs. Once I'm done tidying up the script, I'll put it on the Wiki. (I used the part of Krige's script which calculate when a user reaches 50%, 75% and 90% of his CAP, and added >100% of CAP so my Accounts dept get an e-mail when a user gets CAPped).

Yes, with RadiusManager this is also possible, but, what do you prefer, a system which works great until you run into software or hardware problems and having to reinstall from scratch, difficulty importing backups etc (not too difficult, just more advanced), or a package like UM, where you can receive daily backups via E-Mail and IF you need to reinstall or replace hardware, you simply restore a backup, import your user DB and install your scripts again.

Just my 2cents :)

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With usermanager you can log all the user connection? like the CTS of Radius Manager?

Thanks,

It's easy to do this? or you need another machine with a syslog? Here we have to log the data about 2 years in my hotspots with only one public IP:

Internal IPs from/to local-port/dst-port date/time and username.
 
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Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:39 pm

Everything is done in one script, billing and traffic accounting.

The UM logs are kept in the UM DB which keeps on growing.

Depending on the amount of users, get a CF or SD card (2GB+)

If you have 1000's of users RadiusManager might be the better way until UM is fully out of Beta and has the ability to store the DB remotely etc.

I don't use Syslog for traffic accounting.
 
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Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:49 pm

Oks thanks!

and sorry Normis for make the threat a bit offtopic. ; )
 
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Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:10 pm

Yes, we did go off-topic a bit, pardon us for that!
 
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Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:03 pm

I would like to show you vbulletin Subscription Manager

they support Paypal, NOCHEX, Worldpay, Authorize.Net, 2Checkout, Moneybookers, CCBill.
also they have many good options like Transaction Log, Transaction Stats, Subscription Permissions, Payment API Manager, Test Communication

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Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:12 pm

Is it possible to integrate sofortlastschrift.de into User Manager?
Direct Debit is a common form of payment in Germany and Payment Network is currently expanding all over Europe.
They also have a detailed handbook on how to integrate the payment system. You can find the document here: https://www.payment-network.com/images/ ... n_v1.1.pdf
 
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:04 pm

Hello, I am interested to connect the module payment Click & Buy 1.2. https://www.liqpay.com/?do=pages&p=cnb12 This payment option is very relevant in my area, very much like integration.
 
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:44 pm

is something going forward with worldpay integration?
 
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Any news on netcash for usermanager?
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:09 pm

Scratch Cards

using prepaid scratch cards to recharge accounts of already subscribed users.
 
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Scratch Cards

using prepaid scratch cards to recharge accounts of already subscribed users.
what's the problem to do that now? generate a list of random usernames, import into the database, and print as scratch cards
 
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Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:08 pm

That is an option I am aware of, but the fact of recharging user accounts has a more brighter meaning.

Not knowing a user but just randomly generated codes will only allow me to know what mac is using what scratch card
which on the contrary i could know what user is using what scratch card. There is a big differences in between.

Long term membership may be eligible for extra offers. and like I could make relations with my users by collecting
user contact info and such.. I could find out the distances of my network coverage and solve weak areas and so..

I mean come on Normis, there are so much more benefit of knowing your users instead of just codes...

Don't you agree Bro?

Love you man...
 
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Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:28 am

hi all...

i'm interested in how to manage the payment system whith 3tr party equipment , it is similar to this pos terminal (i choose that picture because i dont know exactly the name of this terminals)..
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please tell me how to connect this equipment to user manager, and what is the name...


thanks ahead
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Probably these terminals are compatible with some standard RADIUS servers, so you can see which POS model you will buy, what RADIUS databases it supports, and then use that one. Hotspot is compatible with any RADIUS servers, you don't have to use User Manager.
 
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Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:59 pm

thanks normis...

i'll found out such kind of pos terminals...

How do you think is it good way to manage client access in such way using pos terminals?

i think it will be easy for stuff..

if there is any other way, exept online payment system ..please give me advise...
thanks again
 
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PayPal/Authorize are good, but how about creating an open system to allow integration with local banks?
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I am of the opinion that this is the best solution, Lets have an open system so we can integrate our local banks, and stop asking for paypal and palpay !!

Please lets have this, its very urgent

Thanks
 
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Fri May 31, 2013 6:54 pm

China Alipay can support you?
 
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Since UserManager is isolated form external databases, it would be good if it can use info from external source about payments or payment status for users.
 
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Our company currently uses IPpay (http://www.converge-tech.com) to
process our internet customer payments online. One of our business
clients uses Ubiquiti Unifi on their premises for guest access, but
we're looking to move away from that as MikroTik looks to be the
better hotspot management solution for us. Unifi natively supports
IPpay, but unfortunately the MikroTik doesn't.

So right now I've been talking with the IPpay support and they'll be
sending me the API package information so that I can (in theory)
manually configure IPpay as a payment option on the gateway to
up-sale access speeds. Does anyone have any experience with
doing this, or perhaps can point me to any good resources?

The IPpay API uses a php->xml processing schema, which I'm not
yet as familiar with as I'd prefer.

Christopher
 
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Mon May 16, 2016 2:47 pm

I would also +1 for netcash, or any other alternative such as payfast / paygate as PayPal does not support ZAR (South African Rand) as a currency.
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:40 am

custom 3rd party, would be great, since i'm living in South Africa, and none of those payment modules support South African places.

Want to make use of http://www.netcash.co.za CC API

I second Jeeva in this request.

Netcash is the only payment gateway aimed at the smaller service provider. Paypal is not very popular, as for many years they stopped accepting South African Credit Cards.

If I can make a suggestion, I feel it would be nice if User Manager could implement payment gateways for each country so everyone has at least one payment gateway. For SA, Netcash is the right one to choose.

I know Netcash is now fully working in Radius Manager by DMA Softlabs.

Many thanks, G
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:49 am

[quote=jemsenator] if Radius manager from DMA Softlab allowed Custom Payment Gateway is would be the best RM for Mikrotik
[quote="andreacoppini"]PayPal/Authorize are good, but how about creating an open system to allow integration with local banks?[/quote]

Mikrotik Team
I am of the opinion that this is the best solution, Lets have an open system so we can integrate our local banks, and stop asking for paypal and palpay !!

Please lets have this, its very urgent

Thanks
[/quote]Apparaently Radius Manager from DMA softlab does not support Custom Payment gateway it is made specifically for their own favourite countries kkkkkkk!!!
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:55 am

does anyone have a solution to instant access service (IAS) with custom payment gateway for mikrotik i want to create profiles which are viewable on the hotspot page and clients can purchase the vouchers through API payment gateway,DMA Radius manager is quite perfect but its a pitty its GEO-RESTRICTED to specific countries
anyone with help i would be so grateful for a solution to sync my local bank
 
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We use RadiusManager without problems.. only they have to fix the csv export but works fine for us.

I need that someone who used Radius manager and now uses usermanager tell me why they changed.

With usermanager you can log all the user connection? like the CTS of Radius Manager?

Thanks,
Radius manager would be the best system to use if it allowed custom payment gateway in order to link with local banks,let us hope that they will release a new version very soon
 
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:24 am

Scratch Cards

using prepaid scratch cards to recharge accounts of already subscribed users.
what's the problem to do that now? generate a list of random usernames, import into the database, and print as scratch cards
does UM have IAS instant access service for clients to purchase vouchers automatically secondly can i use my local bank,s custom API gateway for payments before giving a client a voucher
 
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:07 pm

you are contradicting yourself, because you were asking for paypal. paypal is not tested yet, it will be it's first public test (beta). it doesn't matter in which ROS it is in, user manager will still be untested.

edit: I have good news for you ...
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Mana ... nts#PayPal
i would like to intergrate UM with paynow.co.zw any good news?
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:56 am

Canyou also provide som interface that can use custom payment service. Since UserManager is isolated form external databases, it would be good if it can use info from external source about payments or payment status for users.

That would allow developing (or using) third partu applcation for money acounting and let MT interact with it.
is it now possible to use a local bank with userman.i have been waiting for years for this
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:58 am

What kind of Payment systems do you prefer using? What kind of system should we support first as the most widely used one? Maybe there are others that we don't mention here?
I would like to use paynow.co.zw for our clients to make payments may you assist.
 
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:41 pm

Hello, is there any way to delete the logs that are in payments? Thank you
 
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+1 for Stripe support
 
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Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:20 pm

Mpesa mobile payment.
 
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Mpesa mobile payment.
Exactly in Kenya and east Africa M-PESA mobile money transfer and payment is the leader by far. You definitely want to have it integrated.
 
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Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:30 pm

Probably these terminals are compatible with some standard RADIUS servers, so you can see which POS model you will buy, what RADIUS databases it supports, and then use that one. Hotspot is compatible with any RADIUS servers, you don't have to use User Manager.
Razorpay is now most trending and higly prefered platform used in INDIA
https://razorpay.com/

Hope you can do someting to integrate RazorPay to User Manager which will benefit many WISP and Hotels in INDIA.

Thanks
 
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+1 for Stripe support
another +1 for stripe!!!
 
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Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:46 pm

In East Africa we have M-Pesa API. We'd love to be integrated and accept payment.
 
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M-Pesa API integration would really be a thumbs up for me

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