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Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:24 am

I provide internet access for several events here in Hawaii - - think "Temporary WISP".

We have been making extensive use of these reasonably priced MikroTik wAP-60G units at these events because they allow us to provide for a quick, easy, weatherproof and non-interfering 60GHz wireless bridge network that provides more than the adequate amount of bandwidth required to support these temporary 2.4/5GHz Event Wi-Fi Networks.

The Beam Forming capabilities of the wAP-60G products allow for an easy and quick install, thus resulting in dramatic reductions in the time and costs to deploy and teardown. The majority of the savings in time and labor is mostly due to the avoided labor costs of installing/removing Ethernet cabling to all of the Wi-Fi APs.

We just started using the MikroTik wAP-60Gx3-AP as it provides us with the flexibility of using a single AP to cover up to an 180º field of view that can provide Gigabit connectivity options between the 2.4/5GHz Wi-Fi APs, the Switch/Gateway and the typically remotely located 5GHz backhaul link.

They have become so useful that I have created some of these compact "60GHz Bridge PAKS" for us to use at events.

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Each of our "60GHz Bridge PAKS" includes a single PtP wAP-60G "Wireless Wire" bridge kit and a PtMP wAP-60Gx3-AP with 8 Station/Slave units. They have all been appropriately pre-configured and locked onto different channels, with different SSID/PW settings. They are essentially ready to go right out of the carry case!

All of the PoE injectors, the appropriate 24VDC 0.38A & 0.8A power supplies and a supply of CAT5e couplers (plus spare ancillary components) are all conveniently packed into the Harbor Freight, Apache 5800 rolling carry case (https://www.harborfreight.com/5800-weat ... rotective-…), similar to a Pelican 1500.

The images shown below are from a recent event where we used one of our "60GHz Bridge PAKS".

The images show the MikroTik wAP-60GHz links in Green (longest 60GHz link was 104m). With the 1,116m, 5GHz, 40/80MHz wide channel, backhaul link is in Red.

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A 60GHz PtP "Wireless Wire" Bridge kit served to extend the bandwidth from the 5GHz Backhaul link connected through a MikroTik PowerBox PRO (that was required to be located at specific spot atop a nearby parking deck in order to properly connect through the surrounding buildings). The small fresnel zone of the 60GHz frequency allowed us to create a 57m link from the roof of the Parking Deck, through an opening in the trees, over a street, to the back of the stage where our Gateway and Switch was located under the stage.

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The 60GHz PtMP wAP-60Gx3-AP provided the connectivity to the seven(7) Xirrus High-Density Wi-Fi APs. We used the 8th PtMP 60GHz link to our Communications Van so that we could monitor the network during the event.

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This project provided Wi-Fi for a private event that was held in the 200,000 Sq. Ft. Kuroda Field (an open field/park located in Waikiki) for 2,500 guests and about 100 staff members. The guests moved about the field at will, so we used seven(7) Xirrus XR4800 Series High-Density Wi-Fi Arrays (each provisioned with eight 5GHz radio modules) to cover the 250 tables in the seating area and a Xirrus XR6000 Series High-Density Wi-Fi Array (provisioned with sixteen 5GHz radio modules) to serve the Food Court, Food Trucks, Gaming area and the rear of the seating area furthest away from the stage. This allowed us to provide an adequate amount of Wi-Fi to the crowd as they moved about the field throughout the evening.

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The field was completely fenced in with an 8 foot tall chainlink fence for the event. A 120 foot long x 30 foot high stage was built specifically for this one night event.

While we were ready with more bandwidth to more usage, as it turned out, the Peak number of concurrent users was just over 500 devices. Peak throughput was just under 100Mbps.

The high throughput of the wAP-60G Station units provided us with a very stable and flawless performance that supported seven(7) of the Xirrus High-Density Wi-Fi AP arrays that were installed out on the field within the 180º field of view of the wAP-60Gx3-AP that was installed on the main truss over Center Stage. One of the Xirrus XR4800 Series Wi-Fi arrays was installed 8' away from the wAP-60Gx3-AP over Center Stage.
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Re: Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:52 am

Wow, excellent article, thanks so much :)
 
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Re: Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:53 am

This is great, also beautiful place!

Question: How was power supplied to the station units and the attached Xirrus radio's? Was there battery power being fed, or have AC outlet poles/extension cables ran to the exact placement of the Mikrotik w60 slave units?
 
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Re: Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:08 am

Nice article.
 
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Re: Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:17 pm

Hi
i am arranging a similar project, as the one you have described.
however - i miss the pictures ...
What happened to the Images that you posted?
 
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Re: Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:59 pm

None of the images show for me........... and the link is a dead end as well.
My take away was that none of the end wifi units were mikrotik. :-(
Perhaps Xirrus should by Mikrotik. ( or more accurately the parent company Cambium should by MT, their annual revenue of 335Million is greater than MTs 57million).
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Re: Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:06 pm

All image on Facebook CDN have "URL signature expired" and Facebook do not permit hotlinks.

The forum is able to add image to the post without use external servers...

I hope @Jainge add again the images
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The link point here:
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Re: Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:29 pm

okay, that explains why.
thanks

short story
my task is to supply temporary internet access to at least 6 hotspots equally spaced in a 500m by 200m area.
load up to 300 permanent users, as well as ad-hoc access maybe to another 300 users.
backbone 500/500 feeds via ccr1036 an wAP60x3 then 60Ghz to each 6 hotspots to feed each an wAPac.
planning to separate hotspot using vlans and subnet to each hotspot.
 
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Re: Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:33 pm

Hey Rua,
Going to be in your lovely city for a few days.......... Have our own personal tour guide otherwise would touch base.
Good luck with your plan. Suggest also looking at the new cube pro devices as well as the other ones noted.
What you should note are the APs used by the OP at the last mile for the 2.4/5ghz connectivity. Be wise and use something that works.
 
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Re: Wi-Fi for 2,600 users using a wAP-60Gx3-AP to eight wAP-60G Stations over an ~130º field of view

Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:30 am

Sorry about the links to the photos.

You can also see another version of this article on the facebook "Mikrotik RouterOS Users" group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Routero ... 213490888/

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