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BGP with BFD

Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:51 pm

At the moment we are statically routed, with all the failover between 2x GPON lines and 1x L2TP tunnel over 4G achieved using line state checks and ICMP Netwatch. Everything works great and our 2x /29 blocks failover statefully to each level of routing in a second or less.

We're looking to move over to an ethernet provider who wants us to use BGP to manage the failover between their ethernet line and a GRE tunnel. The issue with this is failover time, so we want to use BFD to keep that time down.

I can see lots of talk about BFD in v7, but it seems the only sign of it in 7.2 is the 'use BFD' checkbox.

I bet there's a huge amount going on behind the scenes, but could MikroTik please push to get BFD for BGP running in v7. Ideally with BFD echo compatibility as asking big ISPs to give custom configuration is quite difficult...

Many thanks,

James
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:50 pm

I agree, this is definitely on the needed feature list for all routing protocols as many ISP networks are using it internally as well as for upstream peerings.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:48 pm

Currently we are working on BFD to bring it to you as soon as possible.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:03 pm

Thanks mrz. I don't doubt that you're working hard on it!
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:16 pm

@mrz just want to ask if BFD was for 7.3.x or slated to 7.4.x? and also if i may check gateway via BFD instead of ping any insight please?
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:44 pm

You will be able to check the gateway with BFD.

I would say that BFD most likely will not be ready before the v7.3 release.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:51 pm

thanks a ton, last question does bfd implementation does not have the same limitation with v6?,
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:08 am

it is hard to guess at this point what limitations it may have, but the main goal for the new BFD was to try to get rid of v6 limitations.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:44 pm

Can we get an update on this? For me it's still not working in 7.4rc2.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:29 am

Is there any time plan for BFD on 7.5 it’s not working ….

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Re: BGP with BFD

Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:58 pm

On 7.7 either... What is going on behind mikrotiks development team?

Is it so complicated to give some hint about when BFD will be implemented?

Sorry, but is BFD so rarely used, that mikrotik can give a sh*t about it?
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:40 pm

We just also strongly vote for BFD...

Mikrotik should not call its products "routers" for ISPs without this feature! In ROS 6.x BFD is present and works, so why still not in ROS 7.x?

And btw, it is years now I`m writing to Mikrotik for MPLS fast reroute... They don`t give a sh*t about it too.

P.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:54 pm

Yes! +1 BFD
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:25 pm

Agreed, long overdue. +1
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:42 pm

really needed +100
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:04 pm

Lack of BFD support is the only reason we cannot upgrade core routers
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:47 pm

Currently we are working on BFD to bring it to you as soon as possible.
What is taking so long? It has been almost a year since you said this, no movement yet, and I am not seeing any reason to believe that "working on BFD" means more than "it was mentioned during a meeting once back in 2021."
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:15 am

Based on the latest posts, I understand (even if there are parameters under BGP configuration referring to BFD), it is not supported yet. At least in the latest 7.7.

at least, I tried to configure it, but I didn't get the BFD working (connection refused).

Can someone confirm it, please?
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:15 pm

You are correct, it still does not work. The parameter has been there since v7 beta, but enabling it does not enable BFD.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Fri Mar 31, 2023 6:50 pm

up
Still no BFD in ROS 7? Neither in roadmap? Quite a shame, Mikrotik...
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:20 am

even a simple echo response variant of BFD used in routing protocols would be a good stopgap measure... I **really** need my BGP peers to detect a virtual interface down condition in a couple of seconds!
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sat Apr 01, 2023 10:07 am

It has become a forbidden topic in the release topics. any posting about BFD or the general problems with BGP is actively deleted.
In the 7.8 topic a MikroTik employee promised that 7.9 would have improvements in BGP and that they "were working" on BFD.
Now they have claimed that for a year and a half already, but when pointed at that promise in the 7.9rc topic these messages are instantly deleted.

I think there aren't many developers "working on it". We see lots of development in other areas but usually only a single BGP change item, a minor bugfix.
And nothing about BFD.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:44 pm

Well, for such a feature you usually don't need many developers but one which is dedicated to do it. I hope this delay means that they try to implement it on hardware (i.e. the switch chip), where it belongs if done properly.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:20 pm

I think it's a cover-up! Mikrotik is not tell us the truth about it! There is video proof: https://youtu.be/hEn6vph-31A?t=279

QinQ heard over the VLAN that the BFD developers have long digital covid, and severe brain injury from the treatment... We all know swamps are bad places... so Normis was not just taking a hike in a swamp. Who does that? No... he was hiding honest Druvis for threatening to expose the conspiracy!

But QnQ has an inside man, Layer7, that was able to pickup this up from the BFD developers:
:put "\53\65\6E\64\20\68\65\6C\70\21\20\49\27\6D\20\68\65\72\65\20\61\67\61\69\6E\73\74\20\6D\79\20\77\69\6C\6C\21"

What does this all mean?
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:08 pm

What does this all mean?
It’s an encrypted message for @DarkNate that states the following
“You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.”

And I had a telepathic message from BFD developer that stated —- RoS 8.0 will be BFD production ready ….
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:36 pm

Oh good. I was worried there was a BOM inside the message.
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:10 pm

echo -e $(echo "\53\65\6E\64\20\68\65\6C\70\21\20\49\27\6D\20\68\65\72\65\20\61\67\61\69\6E\73\74\20\6D\79\20\77\69\6C\6C\21" | sed 's/\\/\\x/g')
 
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Re: BGP with BFD

Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:55 am

It’s an encrypted message for @DarkNate that states the following
“You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.”
My online persona on this forum doesn't reflect my persona in real life for catching honeys, if you know what I mean.

Never mess with a man who's got multiple faces, because you just never know ;)

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