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Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:00 am

Any chance now or in the near future for Zerotier to work on CCR1xxx (TILE) ???
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:34 pm

I double the question. We have TILE on all our branches, and it looks like all new features are closed to non-arm users.
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:38 pm

I think ARM owns MT ;-P I am asking for a zero trust cloudflare tunnel be made a package so its available to all MT devices not just arm ( via complicated additional container required ).
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:06 pm

I understand why we don't get it, but I would love the ability to create our own packages for installation. That would solve most of the feature request. Lock it down behind a required trusted certificate or something. Think how useful it would be for integrators, and for those willing to cross compile into architectures like tile and mipsbe.
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:08 pm

Let me add one more thing.

Think of a script bundle with the scheduler already configured as a minimal functionality. I'm sure many of you would find that useful.
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:01 pm

Most of the new products are ARM based. It makes sense to put all effort into one platform, this makes it all easier and makes development faster
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:02 pm

(Not to mention that they are all features that were not included in the version of RouterOS with which the machines were sold...)
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:15 pm

@Rex
That's a poor argument IMHO.
When Windows was first launched (or MacOS or iOS or Android if you want) there were also no apps like Whatsapp, Spotify, Netflix, ...
HW did not change because of it (apart from the logical evolution in processing power and memory).

There is a difference between purely HW-related features (e.g. HW offloading to switch chip) and SW-related features.
For me Zerotier (like Wireguard) is purely SW. OK, you need the processor and the memory but otherwise, no special HW is needed.
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:19 pm

Most of the new products are ARM based. It makes sense to put all effort into one platform, this makes it all easier and makes development faster
Great, so I can trade in my CCR1009 and get full value for an RB5009 ????
Please send me the email address for the "Mikrotik Trade in your Non-ARM Device Program"

[ Word of advice Normunds, stick to support, Product PR/Sales is not your forte! ]
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:20 pm

this makes it all easier and makes development faster
If that was true THEN your developers would have BGP/BFD done by now on 7.x .... and very surprising that it is not for ARM ...
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:34 pm

above arguments about apps are completely unrelated. don't you all remember the famous case with Apple?
3rd party apps are completely different than core functionality. Rex is right
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:44 pm

Most of the new products are ARM based. It makes sense to put all effort into one platform, this makes it all easier and makes development faster
Agree and fully support the position. I would rather see the core development of Router OS move faster than adding other features. Thats why I think an open package format with necessary security, signing, and whatnot could be beneficial for those willing to take the time to create packages that add specialized functionality that otherwise wouldn't make sense as a container. Put it behind a warning enabling like the containers is.

Keep up the great development!
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:48 pm

I'm the first of the skeptics with v7 and my balls are spinning that the user-manager as it was is gone...
But I can't deny that despite the constant complaints of problems with v7,
since I installed my eBGP router has never crashed and the memory hasn't run out...

Great...

But I would like to see feature parity with v6, rather than new v7 features imported on older v6 models.....
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:59 pm

But I would like to see feature parity with v6, rather than new v7 features imported on older v6 models.....
Just went through a Router OS 7 MTCINE course and needless to say, most of it had to be completed in 6. The MPLS with BPG/l2vpn/vpn4 section was rough on 7 and flat out didn't work. I like the direction it is heading, and I understand the growing pains, but I also understand the frustration operators have.
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:04 pm

Can you name exact things that did not work? yes, BFD is missing, but otherwise things are working fine.
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:08 pm

Can you name exact things that did not work? yes, BFD is missing, but otherwise things are working fine.
We were on the latest beta 7.8 on some ac2's. None of the tunnels distributed over BGP would come up. He was excited to see the sending blackhole routes over a multi hop BGP session was working.

I'll run home at lunch and get the notes made and if you want send them in to you or support.
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:09 pm

User-manager missing as "user-manager", not a new concept of "user-manager",
like the new taskbar on windows 11, it's not a taskbar anymore, now it's just something that looks like the taskbar, now it has all productive elements removed...
How to remove the web part from the user-manager, goodbye previous productivity...
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:10 pm

cfikes, yes, it would be helpful.
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:14 pm

cfikes, yes, it would be helpful.
Will do!
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:55 pm

Rex is right
I am not surprized, and he uses the least amount of words... so efficient. :-)
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:13 pm

I think ARM owns MT ;-P
@anav, I thought they already twisted your arm...didn't I read someplace you got a hAPax3?
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:23 pm

Yes, but not for any container work LOL........... Heaven forbid now I have to learn something complex and spend more money getting external storage for it so I dont burn up the on board memory LOL.
No just a clean neat option package for zero trust cloudflare tunnel is all that is required......

the AX3 is to test vs my current non MT devices, so that I can either wax eloquently on advice for such things or dissuade others to wait for AX6 LOL
additionally perhaps lean into capsman which I have successfully avoided thus far..........
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:14 pm

spend more money getting external storage for it so I dont burn up the on board memory LOL.
I think Cloudflare fit within the flash, no external storage required. If it's a test router...you can let container out its /system/device-mode for a little bit. Then complain how many steps it is :).
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:35 pm

I think Cloudflare fit within the flash, no external storage required. If it's a test router...you can let container out its /system/device-mode for a little bit. Then complain how many steps it is :).
I have better things to do with my time, like put on deodorant or watch the special on how they are rebuilding Notre Dame!!
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:43 pm

cfikes, yes, it would be helpful.
Submitted in Support Request SUP-106248
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:36 pm

cfikes, yes, it would be helpful.
Māris has cleared everything up. Looks like most of the "non-functioning" was just mis understandings. Thank you both for taking the time to clear things up!
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:02 pm

Rather a vague statement, care to elucidate!
 
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Re: Zerotier on CCR1xxx TILE?

Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:54 pm

Rather a vague statement, care to elucidate!
Here you go. It's a mixture of notes from class and their answers. Bold are their answers.

Multihop route distribution not working until 7.8


Ros7 BGP Must add in Address in Address List before distribution will happen. (Not typical behavior)

You don't need to use address list to originate networks, you can do it also by using outout.redistribute settings. Usage of address lists just replace "/routing bgp networks" used in rosv6. This is described in the documentation:
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ ... s-Networks


MPLS using BGP not working in Ros7
Not sure what do you mean by MPLS using BGP, in ROS MPLS can use only static label binding, LDP and RSVP-TE.

BGP L3VPN not establishing in Ros7 (Getting Better)
Works perfectly fine, Here is the working example:
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/pages/vi ... LSVPNsetup

BGP VPLS not establishing in Ros7 (Good in Ros6)
MPLS-TE not working in Ros7
Also works fine in our test setups.

If any of these setups do not work for you provide the full access to the routers where these features are not working.

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