Community discussions

MikroTik App
 
Grandes
just joined
Topic Author
Posts: 4
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:35 pm

2,4GHz SSID disappears after a few hours

Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:32 pm

Router: cap in bridge mode RBCAPGI-5ACD2ND
Installed Version v64.9.7
I have the configuration as described in post #5 viewtopic.php?t=177805
Auto reboot is set every 24 hours.
After few hours SSID for 2,4GHz disappears and all devices are disconnected. Tx and Rx is only 0.0 kbps. changing the settings doesn't help. Helps only manual reboot. After reboot everything works fine.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
 
holvoetn
Forum Guru
Forum Guru
Posts: 5325
Joined: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:14 am
Location: Belgium

Re: 2,4GHz SSID disappears after a few hours

Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:27 am

Have you checked registration table ?
Are there devices which can ONLY connect to 2.4Ghz ? Because maybe they all moved to 5Ghz and then it's normal what you see.

A client will chose the most optimal connection on itself. And 5Ghz is usually better then 2.4Ghz, for the same SSID.
 
erlinden
Forum Guru
Forum Guru
Posts: 1900
Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:59 pm
Location: Netherlands

Re: 2,4GHz SSID disappears after a few hours

Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:14 am

Is the SSID still broadcasted?
Does disable&enalbe the interface solve the problem?
Can you share your config?
/export file=anynameyoulike

Make sure you remove any personal information.
 
Grandes
just joined
Topic Author
Posts: 4
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:35 pm

Re: 2,4GHz SSID disappears after a few hours

Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:10 pm

Have you checked registration table ?
Are there devices which can ONLY connect to 2.4Ghz ? Because maybe they all moved to 5Ghz and then it's normal what you see.

A client will chose the most optimal connection on itself. And 5Ghz is usually better then 2.4Ghz, for the same SSID.
there are 22 connected devices in 2,4GHz . These devices are only 2,4GHz. When there is a problem with the network, they are all disconnected. At the same time the network 5GHz is working fine.
 
Grandes
just joined
Topic Author
Posts: 4
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:35 pm

Re: 2,4GHz SSID disappears after a few hours

Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:25 pm

Is the SSID still broadcasted?
Does disable&enalbe the interface solve the problem?
Can you share your config?
SSID is not broadcasted
disable&enalbe Wlan_2G doesn't help. Helps only System >> Reboot
# jan/17/2023 21:11:45 by RouterOS 6.49.7
# software id = N5VI-GBMC
#
# model = RBcAPGi-5acD2nD
# serial number = HCZ086JBxxx
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=18:FD:74:7C:1C:xx auto-mac=no comment=defconf name=bridge
/interface list
add comment=defconf name=WAN
add comment=defconf name=LAN
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] authentication-types=wpa2-psk supplicant-identity=\
    MikroTik wpa-pre-shared-key=xxxxxxxxxx5 wpa2-pre-shared-key=xxxxxxxxxxx
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk mode=dynamic-keys name=securiti5g \
    supplicant-identity="" wpa2-pre-shared-key=xxxxxxxxxxxxx
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk mode=dynamic-keys name=securiti2g \
    supplicant-identity="" wpa2-pre-shared-key=xxxxxxxxxx
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] band=2ghz-onlyn comment=RBCAPGI-5ACD2ND \
    country=poland disabled=no distance=indoors mode=ap-bridge name=wlan_2G \
    security-profile=securiti2g ssid=kabel wireless-protocol=802.11 wps-mode=\
    disabled
set [ find default-name=wlan2 ] band=5ghz-a/n/ac channel-width=\
    20/40/80mhz-XXXX country=poland disabled=no distance=indoors frequency=\
    5200 installation=indoor mode=ap-bridge name=wlan_5G security-profile=\
    securiti5g ssid=Kabel5G wireless-protocol=802.11
/interface wireless manual-tx-power-table
set wlan_2G comment=RBCAPGI-5ACD2ND
/interface wireless nstreme
set wlan_2G comment=RBCAPGI-5ACD2ND
/ip pool
add name=dhcp ranges=192.168.88.10-192.168.88.254
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=ether2
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=wlan_2G
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=wlan_5G
add bridge=bridge interface=ether1
/ip neighbor discovery-settings
set discover-interface-list=all
/interface list member
add comment=defconf interface=ether1 list=WAN
add interface=ether2 list=LAN
add interface=wlan_5G list=LAN
add interface=wlan_2G list=LAN
/ip dhcp-client
add comment=defconf disabled=no interface=bridge
/ip dns
set allow-remote-requests=yes
/ip dns static
add address=192.168.88.1 comment=defconf name=router.lan
/ip firewall filter
add action=accept chain=input comment=\
    "defconf: accept established,related,untracked" connection-state=\
    established,related,untracked disabled=yes
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop invalid" connection-state=\
    invalid disabled=yes
add action=accept chain=input comment="defconf: accept ICMP" disabled=yes \
    protocol=icmp
add action=accept chain=input comment=\
    "defconf: accept to local loopback (for CAPsMAN)" disabled=yes \
    dst-address=127.0.0.1
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop all not coming from LAN" \
    disabled=yes in-interface-list=!LAN
add action=accept chain=forward comment="defconf: accept in ipsec policy" \
    disabled=yes ipsec-policy=in,ipsec
add action=accept chain=forward comment="defconf: accept out ipsec policy" \
    disabled=yes ipsec-policy=out,ipsec
add action=fasttrack-connection chain=forward comment="defconf: fasttrack" \
    connection-state=established,related disabled=yes
add action=accept chain=forward comment=\
    "defconf: accept established,related, untracked" connection-state=\
    established,related,untracked disabled=yes
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop invalid" \
    connection-state=invalid disabled=yes
add action=drop chain=forward comment=\
    "defconf: drop all from WAN not DSTNATed" connection-nat-state=!dstnat \
    connection-state=new disabled=yes in-interface-list=WAN
/ip firewall nat
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat comment="defconf: masquerade" \
    ipsec-policy=out,none out-interface-list=WAN
/system clock
set time-zone-name=Europe/Warsaw
/system identity
set name=RouterOS
/system routerboard mode-button
set enabled=yes on-event=dark-mode
/system scheduler
add interval=1d name="Auto reboot" on-event="system reboot" policy=\
    ftp,reboot,read,write,policy,test,password,sniff,sensitive,romon \
    start-date=jan/02/2023 start-time=03:00:51
/system script
add comment=defconf dont-require-permissions=no name=dark-mode owner=*sys \
    policy=ftp,reboot,read,write,policy,test,password,sniff,sensitive,romon \
    source="\r\
    \n   :if ([system leds settings get all-leds-off] = \"never\") do={\r\
    \n     /system leds settings set all-leds-off=immediate \r\
    \n   } else={\r\
    \n     /system leds settings set all-leds-off=never \r\
    \n   }\r\
    \n "
/tool mac-server
set allowed-interface-list=LAN
/tool mac-server mac-winbox
set allowed-interface-list=LAN
 
User avatar
bpwl
Forum Guru
Forum Guru
Posts: 2978
Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:16 am

Re: 2,4GHz SSID disappears after a few hours

Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:40 pm

Anything in the log file, around the time of SSID disappearence? You might add "/system logging add topics=wireless" to see something more.
What reason is given for the disconnects in the LOG ?
The Log will be cleared with the daily reboot. Daily reboots are common on my other brand APs, never on Mikrotik, those run for years non-stop.
 
Grandes
just joined
Topic Author
Posts: 4
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:35 pm

Re: 2,4GHz SSID disappears after a few hours

Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:01 pm

Anything in the log file, around the time of SSID disappearence? You might add "/system logging add topics=wireless" to see something more.
What reason is given for the disconnects in the LOG ?
The Log will be cleared with the daily reboot. Daily reboots are common on my other brand APs, never on Mikrotik, those run for years non-stop.
Tue Jan 17 I moved google nest mni and chromecast devices to 5GHz network and until today everything worked fine.
Today at 13:27 the network crashed :(
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
 
User avatar
bpwl
Forum Guru
Forum Guru
Posts: 2978
Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:16 am

Re: 2,4GHz SSID disappears after a few hours

Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:41 pm

2GHz network: group key exchange timeout.

Looks like clients didn't get the WPA/WPA2 key-change information. They will stop ALL being able to encrypt/decrypt properly.
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/what ... y-interval

"group key exchange timeout" is in many posts in this forum, and is all over the internet for other brands.
I did not find a proper workaround or fix.

If group key updates are sent via broadcast/multicast there is quite a possibility this is missed by some or all clients.
Broadcast/multicast uses the low basic-rate interface rate, to be sure to reach all clients without fault.
However with broadcast/multicast there is NO feedback, so there are NO retries like with unicast.
Unicast can survive glitches in the wifi-ether, because it resends as needed. Broadcast/multicast will fail if disturbed !
Some AP operators rise the lowest basic rate higher than 6Mbps, to save some air-time for beacons. However higher basic-rates will fail more often.

Setting the "Group Key Update" interval in the security profile higher than the default 5 minutes, will reduce the problem.
1 hour and longer is not uncommon ! see: https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless ... -p/4135411

I don't know if setting the Multicast helper to "full" on the wifi interface , will also convert this to unicasts!?
(Helper default setting is "default" , currently the same as "disabled")

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], morphema and 43 guests