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Qualcomm IPQ8074

Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:40 am

A really nice piece of hardware: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Qualcomm_Atheros

IPQ8074
(WiSoC) ARM
Cortex A53 Quad-Core 2 GHz (+ 2x NSS @800MHz) abgn+ac+ax 12x12 MU-MIMO 4x4 (2.4GHz) 8x8 (5GHz)MU-MIMO, 1024 QAM,
OFDMA, 4x GbE, 2x 10G (NBASE-T)

Would this be an option for future routerboards?
 
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:56 am

+1

Ruckus now started to sell products with it inside !
https://www.ruckuswireless.com/products ... uckus-r730

Gives Wifi really a major push up even for 11ac/n uses cases
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:22 pm

Given how long it took for 802.11ac (which still isn't fully implemented!), I think it will be 2020 or later before Mikrotik come out with 802.11ax products :(.
 
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:41 pm

Given how long it took for 802.11ac (which still isn't fully implemented!), I think it will be 2020 or later before Mikrotik come out with 802.11ax products :(.
Yes I’m thinking the same, hopefully I have nothing to build with Mikrotik in 2020, I don’t want to know what functions are missing again with there own drivers

Take a look to the Wave2 Products, all wave2 Features are missing!
Mikrotik i not in touch to the competition, and they move slower then ever...
 
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:18 am

Another 11ax product just launched now, putting indeed some pressure on having 11ax products to use.
Mechanical design is more questionable, but that can easily be changed
(and I like the plane/rocket style of the RAX120, it has a big WOW factor).

https://www.netgear.com/home/products/n ... AX120.aspx

Is this IPQ8074 based?
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:16 pm

Now this would be a nice CPU for RB5011 or Super-hAP. Too bad it will probably take years for Mikrotik to have such product and by then, 802.11ax will be already old and replaced by something even better...
 
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:42 pm

Another 11ax product just launched now, putting indeed some pressure on having 11ax products to use.
Mechanical design is more questionable, but that can easily be changed
(and I like the plane/rocket style of the RAX120, it has a big WOW factor).

https://www.netgear.com/home/products/n ... AX120.aspx

Is this IPQ8074 based?
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Netgear_Leopard_(RAX120)

IPQ8078
 
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:36 am

(and I like the plane/rocket style of the RAX120, it has a big WOW factor).
Personally I think those kind of routers looks absolutly horrible. Who likes a big flashing spaceship or something with 22 antennas all over the place? Gamer-routers.
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:14 pm

I wonder if Qualcomm requires patent licensing for router SOCs in a similar way it does for cellphone chips
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... -20-years/
 
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:05 pm

I wonder if Qualcomm requires patent licensing for router SOCs in a similar way it does for cellphone chips
i guess so. and they are also quite strange with their documentation: those things are extremely hard to get ahold of.
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Re: Qualcomm IPQ8074

Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:16 pm

Now this would be a nice CPU for RB5011 or Super-hAP. Too bad it will probably take years for Mikrotik to have such product and by then, 802.11ax will be already old and replaced by something even better...
just stating this quietly - you cannot compare Mikrotik to netgear/tplink/asus/you-name-it. those companies rush their first products to the market right after they have the SoC available. and those products are more or less a simplified version of QCs reference design platform. no consistency, no well established ecosystem, no feature parity: just the thing QC want to have. big CPE vendors who produce stuff for telco companies don't even bother to touch the original bundled linux kernel modules: i had an argument with one of them, they built their stuff around broadcom's BCM63381, and the initial kernel from BCM did not include the ages old kernel-mode l2tp driver. they re-did it in userland, and it was painstakingly slow and cpu taxing. they still claimed that anything on the kernel side is off-limits to them. and in many case they just get a bunch of binaries, and that's it: can't look, can't change, just smile.

so releasing a new device nowadays is about a 'new, innovative case design' with some 'web-ui branding' - and yes, it works. it delivers what the SoC manufacturer claims.

it takes tremendous effort to integrate new tech into your existing software ecosystem, and it takes a lots of time. wanna have just another clicky-shiny-web-ui-only router today, with no backward compatibility, no way to migrate your configuration, just buy one of those :-) but you cannot expect the same extra features you get with routerOS. that is the trade-off.

i too hope .11ax will get to mikrotik hw soon - not because of the chest-beating zillion bps numbers the 'commercial cpe vendors' put on their boxes - cause ODFMA is a great thing.
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