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v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:47 pm

Version 6.44beta6 has been released.

Before an upgrade:
1) Remember to make backup/export files before an upgrade and save them on another storage device;
2) Make sure the device will not lose power during upgrade process;
3) Device has enough free storage space for all RouterOS packages to be downloaded.

What's new in 6.44beta6 (2018-Sep-11 08:52):

Changes in this release:

!) upgrade - release channels renamed - "bugfix" to "long-term", "current" to "stable" and "release candidate" to "testing";
!) upgrade - "testing" release channel now can contain "beta" together with "release-candidate" versions;
*) chr - assign interface names based on underlying PCI device order on KVM;
*) crs317 - fixed packet forwarding on bonded interfaces without hardware offloading;
*) crs3xx - improved data transmission between 10G and 1G ports;
*) dhcpv4-server - fixed service becoming unresponsive after interface leaves and enters the same bridge;
*) dhcpv6-client - log only failed pool additions;
*) ethernet - fixed IPv6 packet forwarding on IPQ4018 devices;
*) hotspot - properly update dynamic "walled-garden" entries when changing "dst-host";
*) ike2 - added option to specify certificate chain;
*) ike2 - fixed local address lookup when initiating new connection;
*) ike2 - fixed rare authentication and encryption key mismatches after rekey with PFS enabled;
*) lte - fixed DHCP relay packet forwarding when in passthrough mode;
*) lte - fixed Jaton/SQN modems preventing router from booting properly;
*) rb3011 - added IPsec hardware acceleration support;
*) routerboard - fixed memory tester reporting false errors on IPQ4018 devices ("/system routerboard upgrade" required);
*) sniffer - made "connection", "host", "packet" and "protocol" sections read-only;
*) switch - fixed ACL rules on IPQ4018 devices;
*) upnp - improved UPnP service stability when handling HTTP requests;
*) w60g - added "frequency-list" setting;
*) w60g - fixed interface LED status update on connection;
*) winbox - allow setting "network-mode" to "auto" under LTE interface settings;
*) wireless - removed "czech republic 5.8" regulatory domain information as it overlaps with "ETSI 5.7-5.8";

If you experience version related issues, then please send supout file from your router to support@mikrotik.com. File must be generated while router is not working as expected or after crash.

Note that beta and release-candidate versions are published strictly for testing purposes and should not be used on production routers.
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:51 pm

O_o "beta"!!!! The hell just froze over!! what happened there?
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:54 pm

Now Beta. And Alpha? Alpha V7? :)
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:14 pm

Now Beta. And Alpha? Alpha V7? :)
Guys! If there will be ROS 7 stable release, we should celebrate it with a big worldwide party :D

ontopic:Did someone test the v6.44 on rb3011?
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:34 pm

!) upgrade - release channels renamed - "bugfix" to "long-term", "current" to "stable" and "release candidate" to "testing";
Tell me the truth, who decided that current is stable? It is bugfix that can be considered stable, while current is some bleeding-edge and sometimes even "never to use in prod" version.

Will the naming be backward aware, like cli to accept both bugfix and long-term?

And what to do with old releases (6.29) which are not aware of branches at all and consider itself as stable?
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:40 pm

Would be very nice to see some routing (especially BGP, BGP4 SNMP MIBs, etc.) improvements for 6.44!
Also currently peering session re-connects when it's comment is changed in Winbox. This is annoying and could be changed.
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:20 pm

Just saw this. Will definitely check it out. :)
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:25 pm

Now Beta. And Alpha? Alpha V7? :)
Alpha V7 will be launched after v6.99 or v6.999 released :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:55 pm

currently peering session re-connects when it's comment is changed in Winbox.
So to say, MT used to down and up again PPP-interfaces when you change comment on it! It was this way some time ago, not sure for now, but this was some "bright" idea these days (and maybe today).
 
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Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:57 pm

Would be very nice to see some wireless (especially NV2, AC) improvements for 6.44!
The bandwidth per 20Mhz channel is very small. Compared to competition...
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:58 pm

Now Beta. And Alpha? Alpha V7? :)
Alpha V7 will be launched after v6.99 or v6.999 released :lol: :lol: :lol:
I suspect they will release some absolutely new change in the system somewhere between 6.49 and 6.49.7, so noone will ever be able to predict that. Look at new bridge implementation introduction, some serious change that is there in current (sorry, so called stable) release but not in the bugfix, and you get the idea.
 
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Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:06 pm


!) upgrade - release channels renamed - "bugfix" to "long-term", "current" to "stable" and "release candidate" to "testing";
Hi Mikrotik will this release channel naming be pushed down into other releases at a later time ?
All my ansible scripts at present that upgrade 100's of rb's point to "bugfix" , "current" and "release candidate"

Gonna have to do a bit of retooling if so.
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:13 pm

!) upgrade - release channels renamed - "bugfix" to "long-term", "current" to "stable" and "release candidate" to "testing";
That's good, but we need another channel named oldstable, where 6.42 should go and stay for at least several weeks.

At least do make downgrading more seamless when necessary.
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:35 pm

That's good, but we need another channel named oldstable, where 6.42 should go and stay for at least several weeks.

At least do make downgrading more seamless when necessary.
If MT is not going to release new versions in 6.42.x series, then this series does not need its own channel. If you want to downgrade your RB to some particular older version of ROS you can always download it (manually construct download URL if every other option to get DL link fails) and install.
Channels are only useful for semi-automated upgrades and for users that trust in MT decission about which version belongs to which category of stability. If you're not one of us, then you can completely ignore channel naming and install whatever version of ROS you believe is best for yor RBs.
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:40 pm

!) upgrade - release channels renamed - "bugfix" to "long-term", "current" to "stable" and "release candidate" to "testing";
That's good, but we need another channel named oldstable, where 6.42 should go and stay for at least several weeks.

At least do make downgrading more seamless when necessary.
Upload 'old Firmware' to Router and reboot...
...downgrade ready. ;-)
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:00 pm

You'll need to press Downgrade button, not just reboot :) But yes, that's that simple.
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:08 pm

IPSec results appeared on the RB3011 product page as the Mikrotik guys promised, but theese values are lower than IPSec results on the 750Gr3 page. The HW crypt core is weaker in the RB3011 or there will be optimalizations in further ROS releases?
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:54 pm

seems this release gave us a wireless channel 66000 on w60g interface. Nice!
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:54 pm

Mikrotik, please explain why you needed to rename the release channels. Also please explain what real change does this mean. Without that the renaming of current to stable is very confusing for those who came recently or do not know that the only well tested bugfix could be considered as stable in reality.
 
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Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:35 pm

Mikrotik, please explain why you needed to rename the release channels. Also please explain what real change does this mean. Without that the renaming of current to stable is very confusing for those who came recently or do not know that the only well tested bugfix could be considered as stable in reality.
Maybe they think the new Bridge module is mature enough, to mark as stable. This naming method was earlier too, so they only returned to that.
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:40 pm

seems this release gave us a wireless channel 66000 on w60g interface. Nice!
Be aware this overlaps with 64800: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_ ... e#Channels
Also, it appears this isn’t in the default frequency list for station mode: https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:I ... properties
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:13 am

IPSec results appeared on the RB3011 product page as the Mikrotik guys promised, but theese values are lower than IPSec results on the 750Gr3 page. The HW crypt core is weaker in the RB3011 or there will be optimalizations in further ROS releases?
Currently the RB3011 IPsec performance is comparable with any of the IPQ4018 routers (like 450Gx4, hAP ac2), it actually shares the same driver, however there are 4 total crypto modules on RB3011 and as of now only 1 is enabled, meaning it has the potential to achieve even higher throughput. Anyway, we will continue to develop this driver, but in the mean time, 400Mbps over the 100Mbps which you were able to achieve with software crypto is a valuable gain in my opinion.
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:49 am

IPSec results appeared on the RB3011 product page as the Mikrotik guys promised, but theese values are lower than IPSec results on the 750Gr3 page. The HW crypt core is weaker in the RB3011 or there will be optimalizations in further ROS releases?
Currently the RB3011 IPsec performance is comparable with any of the IPQ4018 routers (like 450Gx4, hAP ac2), it actually shares the same driver, however there are 4 total crypto modules on RB3011 and as of now only 1 is enabled, meaning it has the potential to achieve even higher throughput. Anyway, we will continue to develop this driver, but in the mean time, 400Mbps over the 100Mbps which you were able to achieve with software crypto is a valuable gain in my opinion.
Yes, thats true :) Only that was strange, the smaller and cheaper 750Gr3 is stronger in it, but I got a deep explanation from you. Thank you!
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:07 pm

RBM11G and R11e-5HacT looses the R11e-5HacT in this software revision and in 6.43 downgrading to 6.42.7 auto-magically makes the wireless card come back so it is a software issue and not a hardware issue. it is also repeatable during testing.
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:19 pm

RBM11G and R11e-5HacT looses the R11e-5HacT in this software revision and in 6.43 downgrading to 6.42.7 auto-magically makes the wireless card come back so it is a software issue and not a hardware issue. it is also repeatable during testing.
I reported the same problem to support. After upgrade to 6.43 rbM11 looses card. No answer yet.
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:20 pm

good to know its not just me. i sent a supout to them and an email describing the issue but havent heard anything yet.
 
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Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:28 pm

just out of curiosity are you also using an RBM11g also or something else with MPCIe?
 
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RBM11G and R11e-5HacD
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:26 pm

RBM11G and R11e-5HacT looses the R11e-5HacT in this software revision and in 6.43 downgrading to 6.42.7 auto-magically makes the wireless card come back so it is a software issue and not a hardware issue. it is also repeatable during testing.

RBM33g+R11e-5HacT does seem to work. (design closely related to RBM11g)

But my connection issues still remain (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=136950)
Support case is about that is also still open, although I haven't received any feedback from MT about it for weeks now :(

RBM33 still doesn't seem to be a viable contender for a hap-ac replacement unfortunately.
(is design been given up???)
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:52 pm

is not allowing to create qos scripts with parent queue with hotspot,
with pppoe works normal
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:10 am

Please consider some BGP fixes and improvements for 6.44:

- make route matching via /ip route print where=.. with BGP full feeds faster
- do not reset/re-establish a BGP session when it's comment is changed
- improve overall BGP convergence time on CCR/tile

+ introduce BGP4 SNMP MIBs
+ introduce priority/order feature for BGP sessions

Thanks
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:51 pm

Upgraded now, and I am not able to login anymore. Password appears to be changed. Same problem in Webfig as SSH. Known issue? Any idea how to restore?
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:52 pm

Upgraded now, and I am not able to login anymore. Password appears to be changed. Same problem in Webfig as SSH. Known issue? Any idea how to restore?
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:59 pm

Well, I guess it should still be possible to login with Webfig or SSH?
 
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Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:11 pm

Well, I guess it should still be possible to login with Webfig or SSH?
Hi,

Try to update winbox to 3.18 version.
From which version you upgraded RouterOS to v6.44beta?

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Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:57 pm

Update the certificate in the browser. I had this problem too and it helped me.
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:33 pm

I used Webfig on a MAC... Have winbox4mac on 3.17 - but that should not make any difference... As SSH does not work, it is not browser dependent, I guess...
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:45 pm

ssh says "permission denied" all the time...
admin@192.168.88.6's password:
Permission denied, please try again.

Does not work to login with blank password - so it seems something is corrupted...

The device is a RB751G-2HnD running as AP - I use it as a test device för new releases. So, no panic - but maybe alarming to others...
 
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Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:56 pm

Winbox 3.18 - not working... When running it on a PC...
 
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Winbox 3.18 - not working... When running it on a PC...
Try to clear cache:

Tools > Clear Cache
 
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Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:52 pm

That does not help.

Somehow my Password has been corrupted when I upgraded. So, likely something wrong with this upgrade which I assume needs to taken care of as it would affect a lot of users otherwise...

I have tried Webfig, Winbox, SSH - none of these access methods allow me to use the Password I have defined. Nor can i login by omitting the password - so it is not restored to default or something. Appears to be working, I can connect to wifi (run by Capsman) - but I am unable to access it as admin anymore Seems I have to make a HW-reset or something... Not nice, should you have lots of these devices.

As I have said before, this is not a critical production device for me - but still quite confusing how this could happen...
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:26 am

Version 6.44beta9 has been released.

Before an upgrade:
1) Remember to make backup/export files before an upgrade and save them on another storage device;
2) Make sure the device will not lose power during upgrade process;
3) Device has enough free storage space for all RouterOS packages to be downloaded.

What's new in 6.44beta9 (2018-Sep-17 07:20):

MAJOR CHANGES IN v6.44:
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!) upgrade - release channels renamed - "bugfix" to "long-term", "current" to "stable" and "release candidate" to "testing";
!) upgrade - "testing" release channel now can contain "beta" together with "release-candidate" versions;
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Changes in this release:

!) cloud - added command "/system backup cloud" for backup storing on cloud (CLI only);
*) bridge - improved packet handling when hardware offloading is being disabled;
*) cloud - ignore "force-update" command if DDNS is disabled;
*) crs3xx - fixed possible memory leak when disabling bridge interface;
*) defconf - properly clear global variables when generating default configuration after RouterOS upgrade;
*) discovery - properly use Sytem ID for "software-id" value on CHR;
*) e-mail - added info log message when e-mail is sent successfully;
*) lte - fixed LTE interface not working properly after reboot on RBSXTLTE3-7;
*) proxy - removed port list size limit;
*) romon - improved reliability when processing RoMON packets on CHR;
*) routerboard - show "boot-os" option only on devices that have such feature;
*) switch - fixed port mirroring on devices that do not support CPU Flow Control;
*) webfig - allow to change user name when creating a new system user;
*) webfig - fixed time interval settings not applied properly under "IP/Kid Control/Kids" menu;
*) winbox - added 4th chain selection for "HT TX chains" and "HT RX chains" under "CAPsMAN/CAP Interface/Wireless" tab;
*) winbox - added "allow-dual-stack-queue" setting to "IP/DHCP Server/Leases" menu;
*) winbox - added "allow-dual-stack-queue" setting to "IPv6/DHCPv6 Server/Bindings" menu;
*) winbox - added "radio-name" setting to "CAPsMAN/CAP Interface/General" tab;
*) winbox - added "secondary-channel" setting to "CAPsMAN/CAP Interface/Channel" tab;
*) winbox - fixed corrupt user database after specifying allowed address range (introduced in v6.43);
*) winbox - make bridge port "untrusted" by default when creating new port;
*) winbox - show "IP/Cloud" menu on CHR;
*) winbox - show "System/RouterBOARD/Mode Button" on devices that have such feature;

If you experience version related issues, then please send supout file from your router to support@mikrotik.com. File must be generated while router is not working as expected or after crash.

Note that beta and release-candidate versions are published strictly for testing purposes and should not be used on production routers.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:36 am

Backup stored on cloud? Great idea, but how is this accessed, if you need to restore? Even more importantly, how is it secured? The idea of a backup with confidential passwords and other information floating in the aether for a hacker to conveniently steal is a bit concerning. I use online backup all the time, but that comes with details as to how the data is protected, etc.
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:39 am

!) cloud - added command "/system backup cloud" for backup storing on cloud (CLI only);

Two questions:
  • Can this cloud backup be encrypted?
  • Since Mikrotik cloud services are bound to the device's serial number, is there any way to retrieve a backup when the original device is lost?
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:40 am

Remember that in MikroTik RouterOS, backup file is for restoring past configuration on the same device, not a safeguard against a lost or damaged device, for restoring on other devices, you should be using "export" config files.
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:49 am

Remember that in MikroTik RouterOS, backup file is for restoring past configuration on the same device, not a safeguard against a lost or damaged device, for restoring on other devices, you should be using "export" config files.
Officially, yes, but if the device is being replaced with one of the same model and the MAC addresses are reset after the restore, if you are in a pinch and have nothing else, the .backup does work, even though it is not the best choice. I imagine that is why andriys is asking and I would echo it - even though it is bad practice, it can be better to have the .backup than to have to recreate a complicated config from scratch, if whoever was managing the router was not careful enough to keep good .rsc backups.

What about integrating the cloud into the "My Account" on MikroTik, so that you could view a list of previous backups from the MikroTik account and download them from there? Just an idea.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:55 am

Or a backup explorer so you can fetch the configuration export from a binary backup file. Like the supout.rif viewer.
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:02 am

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*) It is a requirement for the file to be encrypted - see update to backup file encryption, only the new kind is accepted by IP Cloud Backup
*) if you save secure-download-key you can retrieve the file from another router
*) integration in the account is planned and it is coming sometime later
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:34 am

Remember that in MikroTik RouterOS, backup file is for restoring past configuration on the same device, not a safeguard against a lost or damaged device, for restoring on other devices, you should be using "export" config files.
Why can't device-specific stuff like MAC-addresses simply be removed from the backup files?
 
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Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:25 pm

Because it is whole system backup.

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