MikroTik might release an access point with an 802.11ax capable chipset, but MikroTik currently doesn´t have software feature that make it 802.11ax or even WiFi6, i.e. there´s no support for
1. OFDMA
2. UL MU-MIMO
3. DL MU-MIMO

I sure hope so! MIkroTIk WIFI6 would be amazing!

It's mainly about software. And the software we all have outdated (from Mikrotik)
V7 - no changes yet.
We are waiting for the spectral scan from 2014, and others ...

Still waiting....

2Jarek,
Which cambium with which Mikrotik?

Now use Cambium 802.11ac vave2 mu-mimo basestations & use cambium software for old 802.11N mikrotik devices. Trust me old mikrotik stuff work much much better with cambium software.

The RB4011 successor should have ax.

The RB4011 successor should have ax.

Definitely, and at least 2 sfp+ or 2x 10gbe

Im sure the isp's that deliver 10gbit to the house are going to be interested.
I'm using [redacted] and their hand off is an sfp+ which i plugged in to a crs305...

Still waiting....

Mikrotik can route... But she it comes to wifi... It's an "also ran".

As in these day's is difficult to sell router without wifi support, so I guess, that Mikrotik added wifi support as kind of for the name only and it's there as it is and that's it.

Unless Normis & Co, hire bpwl to start writing legible documentation and more importantly help the coders apply a logical approach to 'Tuning' existing wifi and future wifi, and assist in the move to other newer wifi generations, the MT wifi product line will continue to frustrate most users. We dont need to eke the last 10mbps out of wifi, we need to get to 90% easily and have it be stable.
I am more and more convinced that MT only puts extra effort into the enterprise wisp performance/equipment, to the detriment of all 'home' wifi.

I think beamforming (the explicit/standard 802.11ac one) is more important than MU-MIMO because it focuses the signal to clients and thus they can negotiate better data rates with the AP. Although MU-MIMO can help on a four chain radio (like the RB4011 or the Audience) with several devices using the connection constantly.

I am thinking to change my WiFi interference and better coverage. But of course I need WiFi 6 devices as well to take advantage of that.

I am thinking to change my WiFi interference and better coverage. But of course I need WiFi 6 devices as well to take advantage of that.

WiFi 4 works with interference.

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Mikrotik can route... But she it comes to wifi... It's an "also ran".

They just don't keep up and the way they "give up" in noisy environments, doesn't get the job done.

Software is already cooking for WiFi6. You can see that in wifiwave2 package.

The big networking device vendors will release thei WiFi 6E access points in Q3/Q4 2021. So, it would be a chance for MIkroTik to go develop straight 802.11ax access points with 6 GHz support, aswell.

The big networking device vendors will release thei WiFi 6E access points in Q3/Q4 2021. So, it would be a chance for MIkroTik to go develop straight 802.11ax access points with 6 GHz support, aswell.

We're only 7 months away from Q3, and that's not much time to make new 6E APs if you're not some megacorp funded by scam cloud services.

2 mistry7
Why does it have to take 2 years? We don't need Mikrotik's NV2\3\4 anymore, OFDMA can solve hidden node problem, isn't it? We only need cheap firmware and Mikrotik's ROS, to use it as a standart 802.11AX.
correct me, if im not right.

Currently many MikroTik WiFi devices include IPQ4018 or IPQ4019 chipset. The next generation will probably use IPQ60xx chipset. So when everybody else sells WiFi6E in 2022, MikroTik starts with WiFi6.

Mikrotik drags a lot farther behind than that. What are we at... 6 years on incomplete wifi 5?

with RouterOS 7, MikroTik uses binary drivers from the chipset´s vendor, no more selfmade 802.11 code

For those who are complaining [...]

Yes, we are talking about those guys who purchased access points and routers with a current IEEE 802.11ac Wave 2 IPQ40xx chipset only few years ago, but with 16MB of ROM and/or 128MB of RAM which currently will not receive that lucky new MikroTik "WifiWave2 " driver package with chipset´s binary firmware.

So those complaining that they will not get wifiwave2 because of their device not being capable of it in some way, should buy for example linksys velop which can be very pricey anyway.
They are just like MikroTik adding more features all the time- ON SUBSCRIPTION BASIS!
Like seriously, paying 4$ a month for new revolutionary feature for being able to do dns filtering- feature called child safety!!! Total rip off! And in general velop is complete shit unless you are total noob who just connects the device and uses defaults and if you wish to do anything else than change you wifi name, you need to pay subscription. But if above will not scare you away then regular connection drops surely will. You should try yourself, pure joy. I was battling with it for a year, by restarting it, as there was nothing available to change in settings at all.
I had two velops and I replaced them with single audience.
But this is linksys’ business model. They might be selling you hardware which is more capable than needed at the point of purchase- not charging you extra for this at the point of sale (just assumption, but they are pricy anyway), but rather charge you monthly later should you wish to use it.
How is that any better than MikroTik?

So basically sell your devices on eBay while it still has some value and buy different one. Like Linksys Velop :). Or MikroTik again.

For those who are complaining about wifi6 etc, I would encourage you watch few REAL reviews (not sponsored) of some "relatively cheap" wifi 6 routers from big brands (including Ubiquiti) for same price range as MikroTik (~$150) and then run similar benchmarks using MikroTik Audience/RB4011 using wifiwave2 impl with wifi 5 and you will see that wifi 6 is not that big thing really and in fact Unifi 6 especially is doing poor job in my opinion (I would not use it, even if cheaper in fact). Also those who complain about MikroTik, I would encourage to read some other forums like Ubiquiti and you will see they are not really so good and many users are suffering really slow performance, for which they have not found the fix yet.

Regarding my tests, I am getting sustained 570Mbit (max 638Mbit recorded) with iperf3 on 2 chain MBP Pro with M1, sitting 2 rooms away from Audience- two walls away, doors shut!
Also tested running full load using iPhone and MBP pro simultaneously, which resulted in total transfer bandwidth of about ~560MBit, so no "capacity" issue for such a home user as I am. I have 7 devices on 5GHz network. Rest is 2.4Ghz (approx 25 devices) or wired (approx 10 devices).
To be clear I am not talking about phy speed, talking about real data transfers measured with iperf.

I know you will say wifi6 is about capacity now, but reality is that most of devices in "crowd" are on 2.4 bands (almost all IoT) while 5/6ghz are only devices like laptops and mobiles, which you have few at home and it is doubtful you are using them all the same time.
Also if anybody is real about gaming/work/movies/audio and using PCs/Xbox/SonyPS/TVs/Streamers they must be using wired connections (for example 10gb switches) and forget about using wifi/power plugs for it.
Simply wifi is for mobile and IoT devices.
Also to be clear, Audience/RB4011 are not commercial wifi devices, from my perspective they are home/very small office (<10 people). Although Audience has more chains than rb4011 so in theory can handle more clients but has less cpu power. Not my worry anyway as capacity is not my problem.
Anybody using office deployments, would probably look for something with more chains/capacity and surely not "cheap" wifi 6 routers.
For me, I do not need anything more than I have now, even having most mobile devices 6Ghz compatible.
Once they will start making 5/6GHz IoT, then it might be a problem indeed, but now and next year or so, no.
It will not happen soon really as higher frequencies has lower walls penetration potential therefore might not be suitable for home robots/appliances/cameras etc.
So absolutely no point for MikroTik to rush with wifi 6, might be better to deliver 6e and skip 6 as it is not worth from my perspective.

Also well done MikroTik on wifiwave2- comes bit late indeed when compared to other producers but it is awesome!

My config:
Audience with 7.1b4 firmware.
Using wifiwave2- wifi3 (QCA9984 chip) with 4 chains.
Channel width: 20/40/80+80.

There are stable and dependable wifi5 Access points just as cheap as the capac (TPLINK EAP245) that runs circles around it.

There are stable and dependable wifi5 Access points just as cheap as the capac (TPLINK EAP245) that runs circles around it.

This hinges on Wave 2 features actually mattering. My case for a cAP ac is to provide about 500 mbps to a single line of sight device, but I'd have multiple cAPs for multiple devices, obviously spaced far enough to not interfere with each other. Wave 2 would just make it better with multiple devices per AP, which isn't the case with my setup.

There are stable and dependable wifi5 Access points just as cheap as the capac (TPLINK EAP245) that runs circles around it.

This hinges on Wave 2 features actually mattering. My case for a cAP ac is to provide about 500 mbps to a single line of sight device, but I'd have multiple cAPs for multiple devices, obviously spaced far enough to not interfere with each other. Wave 2 would just make it better with multiple devices per AP, which isn't the case with my setup.

Hi Cablenut, I have on house member studying at medschool mostly virtually
a. capac - nothing but issues, especially streaming, not stable, off and on (no amount of troubleshooting made an iota of difference)
b. TPlink eap245, not a single burp even.

So for critical connectivity dont agree.

Sorry nannou you dont know shit.
There are stable and dependable wifi5 Access points just as cheap as the capac (TPLINK EAP245) that runs circles around it.
In other words, while MT is perfecting WIFI5, that many have done for a number of years with no extra cost or requirement for services.
By the way as noted that perfection entails making obsolete all the capacs, hapac, hapac2s etc sold in the past and still being sold, because they wont be improved to meet a spec that was met by other vendors probably 5 if not more years ago.

There are many folks here that spends $1000s and $10,000s on equipment and to them its not a laughing matter.

No single vendor will pull out all hardware from sale just because they started working on something new, incompatible.

And when I do go IPv6, I am convinced that will only be as far as my public IP and the rest of my internal lan will still be IPv4 based so not to worried.

So those complaining that they will not get wifiwave2 because of their device not being capable of it in some way, should buy for example linksys velop which can be very pricey anyway.
They are just like MikroTik adding more features all the time- ON SUBSCRIPTION BASIS!
Like seriously, paying 4$ a month for new revolutionary feature for being able to do dns filtering- feature called child safety!!! Total rip off! And in general velop is complete shit unless you are total noob who just connects the device and uses defaults and if you wish to do anything else than change you wifi name, you need to pay subscription. But if above will not scare you away then regular connection drops surely will. You should try yourself, pure joy. I was battling with it for a year, by restarting it, as there was nothing available to change in settings at all.
I had two velops and I replaced them with single audience.
But this is linksys’ business model. They might be selling you hardware which is more capable than needed at the point of purchase- not charging you extra for this at the point of sale (just assumption, but they are pricy anyway), but rather charge you monthly later should you wish to use it.
How is that any better than MikroTik?

So basically sell your devices on eBay while it still has some value and buy different one. Like Linksys Velop :). Or MikroTik again.

Hello,
You will not be able to create a virtual wlan interface as it is supported with license lvl4, but the Disc lite 5 comes with lvl3. You will need to upgrade your license if you want to implement those features:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:L ... nse_Levels

No single vendor will pull out all hardware from sale just because they started working on something new, incompatible.

I can find cheapo 802.11n-only 150mbit routers for $20 USD, so there will always be a market for these older, less desirable things.

WHere are the 60hz smartphones

WHere are the 60hz smartphones

Well, talking about that... my friend was testing 5G at his place and came up with some ridiculous number over 600Mbit download... If that really works all around, wifi will be irrelevant in the next decade.

If that really works all around, wifi will be irrelevant in the next decade.

WHere are the 60hz smartphones

Well, talking about that... my friend was testing 5G at his place and came up with some ridiculous number over 600Mbit download... If that really works all around, wifi will be irrelevant in the next decade.

Also well done MikroTik on wifiwave2- comes bit late indeed when compared to other producers but it is awesome!