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Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:19 pm

Dear Colleagues,

I am new to Mikrotik and have just bought a Hex S (RB760iGS) router with SFP support.
I am plaining to buy and SFP module, that will be compatible with it and will provide me an GPON connection support.
Now I have this connection – Optic cable -> Nateks FG-GPON-ONT-4FE+2FXS as a GPON terminal -> WAN port of Zyxel NGB 6515 as Wi-fi Router.

Nateks FG-GPON-ONT-4FE+2FXS is an ITU-T G.984 GPON terminal , that supports 2488 downstream and 1244 upstream mbit/s according to this description http://telecomsite.ru/device/gpon_ont_4fe_2fxs/ .

I have looked at this resource for the compatibility support - https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MikroTik ... lity_table , but have found no GPON SFP modules, thou it is said that
“ MikroTik devices and SFP/SFP+/QSFP+ modules do not have any restrictions for other vendor equipment. As long as the other vendor modules and devices comply with transceiver multi-source agreement (MSA) they should be compatible with MikroTik. “

I have found this one as an SFP GPON Module - https://componentltd.ru/catalog/sfp-xpo ... pon-onu-b/

I am not 100 percent sure, that it will work, that’s why I am writing a post here.

May be some of you have already tested some GPON G.984 SFPs that will work without issues on Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) device and can share this infomation here ?

Thank you in advance for your help and support!

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Andrey Karpov
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:36 pm

Have found this SFP-Module from Mikrotik

s-gpon-onu sfp - https://mikrotik.com/product/SFPONU , but it is no longer available (

May be some other devices will be possible to be purchased ?
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:06 pm

GPON is a minefield and even Mikrotik quit on this.

Contact CarlitoxxPro if he can be help you. This is for Spain but made to work in Mikrotik and configured.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=116364&p=805558#p805558
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:25 pm

Another very outside possibility is this device....... Its an RJ45 cage that can accept up to 10gig over Cat 7 for short distances.
Thus you could potentially get your internet connection at speed - assumes you have an SFP+ port on your router, and that the ont/modem has ethernet jacks capable of such speeds.
https://mikrotik.com/product/s_rj10
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:38 pm

Another very outside possibility is this device....... Its an RJ45 cage that can accept up to 10gig over Cat 7 for short distances.
Thus you could potentially get your internet connection at speed - assumes you have an SFP+ port on your router, and that the ont/modem has ethernet jacks capable of such speeds.
https://mikrotik.com/product/s_rj10

hEX-S
It is affordable, small and easy to use, but at the same time comes with a very powerful dual core 880 MHz CPU and 256 MB RAM, capable of all the advanced configurations that RouterOS supports. The device has a USB 2.0, PoE output for Ethernet port #5 and a 1.25Gbit/s SFP cage.
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:51 pm

My bad, I though the HEX could make use of its lower speeds,
If not then use this one which does up to 1.25
https://mikrotik.com/product/S-RJ01
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:05 pm

My bad, I though the HEX could make use of its lower speeds,
If not then use this one which does up to 1.25
https://mikrotik.com/product/S-RJ01
The hEX-S has special design that cut one of the two lanes to the CPU as soon as you insert a SFP module. The 5 ports get one lane and the SFP the other lane.

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I have got me a 4011RM to have a dedicated SFP+ lane to the CPU and off course the increased encrypting power. However the hEX-S is still a great box and I still use it. The 4011RM rejects some SDP/SFP+ modules and passive DAC cables to you have to check before buy.

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The best was to to use the hEX-S is to have media-converter from fibre to network and plug that in the hEX-S and so you keep the aggregated speed of two lanes to the CPU.
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:33 pm

Andrey,

Microtik users in Russia use these SFP modules to work with Ростелеком, ГигаКом, Проксима.
It may not work with Eltex because they use a proprietary GEPON implementation for good portion of their network.

C-Data FD511GX-RM0
Exot Systems - EGS1

Like most of the modules based on Realtek chipsets, they have a rich graphical web interface that allows you to change many parameters.

If you search, these SFP modules are available locally at reasonable prices.
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:27 pm

Thank a lot for these replies, Collegues !

Found a good Price and description for C-Data FD511GX-RM0, SFP xPON ONU Tx1310/RX1490nm SC here - https://www.newnets.ru/catalog/gepon/c_ ... m_sc_20km/

Also alot od people try to use this ONT in Russia - D-Link DPN-100 fw 1.4 A2A -http://dlink.ru/ru/products/1383/1871.html and there is a large topic how to connect it with Mikrotik Routers here - http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?for ... start=1080

What is you opinion about this D-Link DPN-100 fw 1.4 A2A ? Is it worh to purchase ?
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:34 pm

Also found a rich description of ONT SFPs here -
viewtopic.php?t=116364&start=300

Especially good ones, as you said on Realtek RTL8672 and/or RTL9601C -

1. V-SOL V2801F (https://www.gpononu.com/dual-mode-onu/1GE-SFP-ONU.html), C-Data FD511GX-RM0, OPTON GP801R
2. Ubiquiti - U-Fiber Instant,
3. EXOT - EGS1

I am not mistaken in reading their decription,they all have same web-interface and are able to be configured direcly via Mikrotik HEX S interface, right ?
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:40 pm

What is you opinion about this D-Link DPN-100 fw 1.4 A2A ? Is it worh to purchase ?

They are no longer available, unless you hunt them down on auction sites such as avinet, then it will be expensive. It is the same module like Zisa OP151S, they have tendency to overheat. I would avoid them. Newer designs have better heat disspation.

1. V-SOL V2801F, C-Data FD511GX-RM0, OPTON GP801R
2. Ubiquiti - U-Fiber Instant,
3. EXOT - EGS1
I am not mistaken in reading their decription,they all have same web-interface and are able to be configured direcly via Mikrotik HEX S interface, right ?

V-SOL V2801F, C-Data FD511GX-RM0, OPTON GP801R --- similar or same web-interface depends on the firmware.
Ubiquiti - U-Fiber Instant --- ssh access only, troublesome to change password but one Russian user did it!
EXOT - EGS1 --- rich web interface, diffrent design based on the same chipset. Avinet has some screenshots.

It is best to consult other users of the same provider, as modules may require additional adjustments, such as QOS priority 802.1p

The modules can be configured via a web browser, by making a few changes to the firewall and routing in Mikrotik.:
http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?for ... it=1&m=2#1
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:06 pm

What is you opinion about this D-Link DPN-100 fw 1.4 A2A ? Is it worh to purchase ?

They are no longer available, unless you hunt them down on auction sites such as avinet, then it will be expensive. It is the same module like Zisa OP151S, they have tendency to overheat. I would avoid them. Newer designs have better heat disspation.

1. V-SOL V2801F, C-Data FD511GX-RM0, OPTON GP801R
2. Ubiquiti - U-Fiber Instant,
3. EXOT - EGS1
I am not mistaken in reading their decription,they all have same web-interface and are able to be configured direcly via Mikrotik HEX S interface, right ?

V-SOL V2801F, C-Data FD511GX-RM0, OPTON GP801R --- similar or same web-interface depends on the firmware.
Ubiquiti - U-Fiber Instant --- ssh access only, troublesome to change password but one Russian user did it!
EXOT - EGS1 --- rich web interface, diffrent design based on the same chipset. Avinet has some screenshots.

It is best to consult other users of the same provider, as modules may require additional adjustments, such as QOS priority 802.1p

The modules can be configured via a web browser, by making a few changes to the firewall and routing in Mikrotik.:
http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?for ... it=1&m=2#1
Great Thanks again for such good information, JeanPierre ! What about Gpon ONT/ONU SFP Exot Systems DFP-3422
https://www.avito.ru/pikalevo/tovary_dl ... 1931272726
Have you used it ? It is written, that is suitable for all major provides in Russia
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:35 pm

What about Gpon ONT/ONU SFP Exot Systems DFP-3422
https://www.avito.ru/pikalevo/tovary_dl ... 1931272726
Have you used it ? It is written, that is suitable for all major provides in Russia

Some users did. It is actually DFP-34G-2C2 with chip made by ZTE
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=116364&start=300#p777979
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:39 pm

GPON is a minefield and even Mikrotik quit on this.

Contact CarlitoxxPro if he can be help you. This is for Spain but made to work in Mikrotik and configured.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=116364&p=805558#p805558
Not cheap 121 Euros...........
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:45 am

Dear Colleagues,

I contacted Nikolay - , who sells Gpon ONT/ONU SFP Exot Systems DFP-3422(https://www.avito.ru/pikalevo/tovary_dl ... 1931272726)  and ordered this module. As it is delivered from China directly to him first, and after he checks it, he will send it to me via Russian Post. He said that all these things will take up to 3 weeks from order to delivery to my address in Moscow. Regarding the module, he said that it is much better that Gpon ONT/ONU SFP Exot Systems EGS1 in the functions of firmware. It is possible to do a setup of all the functions via Web interface. In the near future he plans to have many of these modules in stock in Russia, so the customers will not have to wait for them  for so long time.

This module works with all main Russian GPON providers, and he helps to troubleshoot this setup for his customers, if there are problems. He already delivered some of these new modules, and a lot of Exot EGS1 to his customers and had no problems with them.  As soon as I get this GPON module and configure my Mikrotik HEX S router with it, I will write a detailed post here and share my experience in setup with pictures.

Great Thanks again to all you guys, that shared so specific and useful information with me here !!! 
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:08 pm

Can you DM me he's number.

I am trying to get a UF-Instant GPON module to work with our kit.

It has an RTL8672, I briefly got it to come up as a discovered ONU on our system but can't get it to that point again.
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:28 am

THere is another thread on the forum where folks put copper and aluminum heat sinks(small ones obviously) on the cages themselves to help remove heat.
I got some (made for rasperryPi) and am going to try it on my SFP cages.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=132258&p=810587#p810587
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:40 am

Did anybody get the UF-Instant GPON ONU to work on any Mikrotik?
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:36 pm

I use it at my home Hex-S RoS V.6 and Dione SFP GPON Stick https://etronic.al/en/dione-networks/32 ... h-mac.html
Works perfectly since 1 year now but as Hex-S SFP Port is 1Gbps, you cannot get more than 1Gbps, in my home now I have a package of 1Gbps down / 500Mbps up and get this speed correct, only thing is that it is a bit high temperature but no problem.
Tried the same GPON Stick on 5009 with RoS V.7 and is not working.
 
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Re: Mikrotik Hex S (RB760iGS) - GPON SFP support module.

Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:41 am

facing same problem based on rb5009 + odi gpon stick DFP-34X-2C2,
didn't work on version v7.4.1stable & v7.5rc2,only can get 1Gbps,auto negotiation shows: not available
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