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Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:15 pm

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My neighbour and myself had very much different download speeds, me using a Chatau LTE12 and himself using some other brand mobile router. As an experiment I brought my Chateu to him, tested on his ext. antennas mounted on the roof and suddenly the download speeds were much better, same as for me. The antennas are placed correctly by a contractor who does rooftop installations for companies and homes. The RSSI/RSRP/SINR/RSRQ confirm that, values are pretty similar for both of our devices.
Encouraged by these results he bought a Chateau for himself, we've put in his SIM, connected to his antennas and the results were pretty much the same as on his old router... The difference is not neglegible - when I get 30Mbps he's getting 3Mbps. External antennas are enabled in his configuration and I've confirmed on my router that they are working ok.
I'm running v7.1beta5 and he could only upgrade to v7.1beta6 so other than having a physically different SIM card there are not much differences between our setups.
Is there anything about v7.1beta6 which could affect the performance so badly? I'm really afraid to upgrade mine to it to have severely limited internet access and on the other hand I haven't found a way to downgrade his router to v7.1beta5.
Is there anything which could be tested further? I don't really undestand why the same device with pretty much same config works so badly.
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:13 am

You have altered the stable firmware for Chateau LTE12,
put back the original 7.0.3 and do not upgrade again to "beta version":
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=167593#p865939
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:17 am

Ok, didn't know there was any stable v7 release. Will try that but the reason for upgrading was that the stock version worked very slow, even slower than currently. If I'm not mistaken it was beta when it shipped.
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:41 am

Have you checked if carrier aggregation is used?

Your device with his SIM at his place reaches 30mbit?

https://download.mikrotik.com/routeros/ ... a5-arm.npk
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:01 am

Have you checked if carrier aggregation is used?

Not sure where to find it in WebFig. But assuming I I had it enabled for myself it would be the default, he'd have the same setting :)


Your device with his SIM at his place reaches 30mbit?


We're about to check that as the next thing but was thinking that it's too borderline - is it possible that SIM from the same operator would behave so differently?
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:15 am

Go to interface/LTE. there is a status tab where you can see used bands

It is not about SIM, it is about tariffs and hidden terms&conditions.
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:30 am

I'm attaching pictures of both mine and my neighbour's bands used. Looks pretty much identical to me.
We've both got "Bands" not selected so going on with the defaults.
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:27 pm

The firmware of the LTE module is update?

The last version is EG12EAPAR01A09M4G (at the date 06 Jul 2021)

for check only:
/int lte firmware-upgrade lte1


for upgrade:
/int lte firmware-upgrade lte1 upgrade=yes
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:36 pm

Ah.. I notice just now the subtitle on Chateau LTE12:

One router to delight them all

Is like "my" signature :P
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:06 pm

So it seems that I'm using older LTE FW but surprisingly we can't install EG12EAPAR01A05M4G_BETA0821 specifically

Neighbour on EG12EAPAR01A09M4G and nothing to upgrade to.
I'm on EG12EAPAR01A06M4G, can upgrade to EG12EAPAR01A09M4G
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:29 pm

Yes, you can upgrade to latest version EG12EAPAR01A09M4G (at the date 06 Jul 2021)

the beta EG12EAPAR01A05M4G_BETA0821 are factory version for 7.0beta6,
and EG12EAPAR01A06M4G are factory version for 7.0.3

But DO NOT UPGRADE the 7.0.3!!!
Is the latest for Chateau LTE12,
7,1betaX (or any other version) do not work for Chateau LTE12
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:17 pm

Then I should reinstall viewtopic.php?f=1&t=175201#p865428 on my neighbours Chateau LTE12 following these instructions viewtopic.php?f=1&t=175201#p865504 ?

Myself, I'm very happy with my current setup, works like a charm on 7.1beta5, not sure I want to change it before have confirmed that downgrade to 7.0.3 works and I'm not messing everything up in the process.

It's strange that initially it showed some beta version being installed, never saw any v7.x.y without the beta status so it was kind of inviting for an upgrade, especially that the getting started manual tells you to upgrade during first installation. From a user perspective I've followed it to the letter :)
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:38 pm

Is suggested to upgrade to stable version, not beta, obviously...
7.1beta... is beta

If all work, do not touch nothing but do not expect support.
If you want downgrade to 7.0.3 (better netinstall), you first must save on external disk the "/export file=save"
Reset configuration after 7.0.3 downgrade is better, to start from default and clear from beta stuff,
and using the save.rsc with notepad for import back the pieces of the config needed.
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:47 pm

Is suggested to upgrade to stable version, not beta, obviously...
Understood and aggree. The thing is that it's stated on the product site https://mikrotik.com/product/chateau_lte12 that Chateau LTE 12 is only for v7.x.y and in the updates the only option for stable or long term channel are v6.x.y. Otherwise I'd stick with stable or long term releases but that option was not given to me in the Chateau LTE12 panel at any point and I actually never saw my stock image to identify as not a beta. It was beta all along and I was ok with it, especially not knowing that there is stable one.

As for downgrading I'm ok with loosing all settings, just wouldn't wat to get stuck in restoring the OS from bootloader level, this is usually more painful :)
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:50 pm

Try netinstall, if you can not see device inside netinstall, nothing can be "broken"!
Just power cycle the device and coming back.
Never press reset in this case, but reboot the device after choice on /system routerboard settings the boot device "try-ethernet-once-then-nand"
If you try netinstall on this way, the device is upgraded only if netinstall works, and you do not risk anything.

Warning: the configuration must be lost on netinstall, do not keep the previous on options.
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:43 pm

7.0.3 can an be requested from Mikrotik support. There is no official download link.

FYI: Mikrotik support recommends to use 7.1beta instead of 7.0.3.
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:50 pm

What the hell are you writing?
Can you read?
You just write to increase posts number?

Post #2 of THIS topic,
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176616&p=866062#p865947

and

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=175201#p865428
 
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Re: Two Chateau lte12, same operator different speeds

Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:32 pm

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