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ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:31 am

I have looked around ROSv7 and have not stumbled upon the command to view BGP prefix advertisements outbound to a peer.

Any ideas?
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:34 pm

NO. I had asked them they said nothing like that is available yet.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:41 pm

This feature is pretty critical.

I wouldnt even put v7 in as a tower router without the ability to see the advertised/received routes from a peer.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:27 am

This feature is not available yet.

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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:24 pm

So 7.1 is now out properly, so I thought I'd give it a whirl.

Managed to get a BGP session up and running, albeit with bfd yet, so went onto looking at the filtering, I can't see what I'm advertising with a normal "/routing bgp advertisements print"
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:28 pm

Also needing to see exported routes via BGP, per peer or peer-group, in here.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:31 pm

+1
This is an essential feature!
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:24 pm

Is there another way to view advertisements prefixes via command line?
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 pm

We really need this to see what we are advertising.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:18 pm

Did you guy see that 7.1.2 "stable" was released?

v7.1.2 is released!

Does anyone got sucess checking announced routes to an specific BGP peer using 7.1.2?
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:33 pm

Changelog does not say that this feature is added, so 7.1.2 does not have bgp/advertisements equivalent yet.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:14 pm

Changelog does not say that this feature is added, so 7.1.2 does not have bgp/advertisements equivalent yet.
@mrz - Thanks for clarifying.

We have 20 full mikrotik bgp routers with loads of filters and 200+ peers. I understand there are many things to cover in 7.x but its really hard not to have bgp/advertisements, so this would be my #1 wish to get.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:04 pm

Changelog does not say that this feature is added, so 7.1.2 does not have bgp/advertisements equivalent yet.
@mrz - Thanks for clarifying.

We have 20 full mikrotik bgp routers with loads of filters and 200+ peers. I understand there are many things to cover in 7.x but its really hard not to have bgp/advertisements, so this would be my #1 wish to get.
YES PLZ!
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:05 pm

We have 20 full mikrotik bgp routers with loads of filters and 200+ peers. I understand there are many things to cover in 7.x but its really hard not to have bgp/advertisements, so this would be my #1 wish to get.
I'm not entirely sure what I'm going to say...

But I remember that in versions 7.1RCxxx the route cache was exposed to queries.
And, if I'm not mistaken, by making queries in this cache, it was possible to know which routes had been sent to the desired peer.

If I'm not mistaken, when it became 7.2Rxxx and 7.1xxx this option to query the route cache directly was removed.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:51 am

I could really do with this feature.

How Mikrotik can tout their new and improved BGP service and change the routing filter setup without any way to troubleshoot it seems crazy.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:07 pm

Reasons not to use ROS7...
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:26 pm

v7.1.4 is released!
And until now, I don't see any movements to correct the lack of "/routing/bgp/advertisements print" equivalent on v7.

Please, tell me that I'm simply wrong, and it is just me that doesn't know the command syntax to get that information.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:24 pm

v7.1.4 is released!
And until now, I don't see any movements to correct the lack of "/routing/bgp/advertisements print" equivalent on v7.

Please, tell me that I'm simply wrong, and it is just me that doesn't know the command syntax to get that information.

I've not come across it. A packet capture of BGP is the only current method to get this info.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:00 pm

Hey guys... Lets flood then!

Evereyone just open a Ticket on their Jira.

Sumary:
ROSv7 bgp advertised routes per peer

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We need a way to get exactly what routes are announced to each bgp peer using ROS v7.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:18 pm

There is no need to flood, this feature is work in progress
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:23 pm

Hey guys... Lets flood then!

Evereyone just open a Ticket on their Jira.

Sumary:
ROSv7 bgp advertised routes per peer

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We need a way to get exactly what routes are announced to each bgp peer using ROS v7.
That would be counter productive and would slow down the drumbeat of progress, which compared to any other vendor is still rather quick.
Just take up a new hobby while you are waiting....... like grow a brain.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:35 pm

That would be counter productive and would slow down the drumbeat of progress, which compared to any other vendor is still rather quick.
Just take up a new hobby while you are waiting....... like grow a brain.
See how counterproductive this is...

There are several comments about the lack of this feature in this feature. Some are several months old.
I have several friends who have put tickets on this, and they've been left in the void until now.
But just when I mentioned the idea of brute force, there came an official response to it.

What an incredible coincidence isn't it?

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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:52 pm


See how counterproductive this is...
What an incredible coincidence isn't it?
What drives MT is certainly not the whining from Latin America, about a feature, what they are concerned about is providing functionality that works.
If its not in the recent releases its because it hasn't passed testing to the point it can be included. Heck we dont know if they have figured out how to code it in the new structure.

Finally, they probably also look at the costs and risks associated
Clearly the revenue generated by BGP is not worth an accelerated timeline or more efforts (person-hours) than other items on a the to do list.
If you have a million bucks to wave in front of them worth of purchases, one can be sure they would probably escalate the issue to the top of the pile (and not just in order but in resources as they are separate entities).

The reason the 'dumb' post got attention is probably because they dont want the current ticket system to come to a grinding crawl, which by the way serves everybody not just you.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:15 pm

Big effort is put in order to implement this feature, as we hear and notice that is vital for your setups. Either advertisement will be available at 7.2 or perhaps we will take addditional time to polish the feature and postpone it to the next "big" version (7.3?).
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:00 pm

Thanks Sergejs, the value of good communications cannot be overstated. When there is a gap of information, people make up their own stories, which is never a good thing!

I still think MT is missing an opportunity to have a communication page where people who have an account (ie log trouble tickets etc). can visit a Read Only page with all the features/functionality that have been reported in terms of progress. Not necessarily wish list items but those that should be working and are not, and thus we know 'something is going on' behind the scenes.

Currently MT has this.
add comment="BUG FIX DEVELOPMENT" chain=communications dst-address=user-community gateway=MT-Login routing-table=WWW action=blackhole

It should be this.
add comment="BUG FIX DEVELOPMENT" chain=communications dst-address=user-community gateway=MT-Login routing-table=WWW action=update disabled=NO

or something like that ( I dont do this for a living ). :-)
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:35 pm

There is one thing that is more important than money, revenue.

Keep your word!

(It's even more important than the inflated ego of people that see themselves as much smarter than everyone else in the world.)

Almost all of Mikrotik's marketing materials about v7 referred to NEW features. And they didn't say which features would be suppressed.

Print which BGP routes are being advertised per peers is a feature THAT ALREADY EXISTS in v6.

Therefore, the absence of this feature in this new version, is rather failing to honor what was promised.

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If we were talking about an "innovation" like the one I've already repeatedly asked for, which is to show in the extensive print of the routes to which peers that route was propagated (as happens in Huawei, Arista, Juniper, Cisco, FRR, etc. ..) I would accept that kind of speech.
But it makes me sick to see that some people try to pass the idea that printing the advertised routes as an NEW EXTRA FEATURE.
What kind of operator is this that accepts the lack of this feature?

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P.S. It's no news that I'm not a fan of Mikrotik's products! And yet I have publicly commented that I found the changes that were made to the BGP engine, the CPU load balancing methods and criteria, and especially the filter syntax incredibly good, very smart.

However, this position of pretending that problems don't exist until having the solution is something shameful!
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:12 pm

The shameful bit is someone who switched to Vers7 for a business environment prior to testing the setup in a LAB environment to ensure it worked prior to deployment.
Some people should simply find the closest mirror when they have an itch to lay blame.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:36 pm

The shameful bit is someone who switched to Vers7 for a business environment prior to testing the setup in a LAB environment to ensure it worked prior to deployment.
On that (Validation on lab before Update), I agree with you!
And it is exactly because of that validation and the reds on my checklist that I'm here on this thread.

We have over 100 customers with their CCRs eagerly awaiting v7.
So eagerly that some even made the update against our guidelines and it brought us a lot of headache.

You don't know-me! You don't know what I do for living!
So I respectfully ask you, please don't jump to conclusions about me.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:48 pm

Please, stop your rant about it and your uneducated customers. It is not productive.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:13 am

Big effort is put in order to implement this feature, as we hear and notice that is vital for your setups. Either advertisement will be available at 7.2 or perhaps we will take addditional time to polish the feature and postpone it to the next "big" version (7.3?).
Please release early and polish later. I'm running 200 peers and 5 transits on 25 bgp mikrotiks. I have also ordered a bunch of 2216s.

We had to switch to 7.x due to the 2004 issues and 6.x bgp slowness.

But I'm basically blind now.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:02 pm

Looks like this capability was just added today
What's new in 7.2rc5 (2022-Mar-23 12:04):

*) bgp - added BGP advertisements display (requires output.keep-sent-attributes to be set);
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:18 pm

Thank you Mikrotik Guys!

I will test it as soon as possible and share my impressions.
Looks like this capability was just added today
What's new in 7.2rc5 (2022-Mar-23 12:04):

*) bgp - added BGP advertisements display (requires output.keep-sent-attributes to be set);
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:35 pm

Keep in mind this feature is initial implementation and a part of more complex BGP debugging tools currently work in progress.

At the time of writing this post advertisements can be seen by dumping outgoing advertisements to pcap file.
You will need to:
*) enable "output.keep-sent-attributes" in BGP connection settings
*) run "dump-saved-advertisements " with specified session id and filename specified with "save-to" from the BGP session menu
*) output then can be seen by limited pcap viewer in "/routing/stats/pcap" menu or by downloading pcap file and viewed in Wireshark.

Before trying to use this feature make sure that that there is enough free RAM and free space on HDD. 800k routes will take around 120MB RAM and more than 300MB of HDD if dumped to file.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:24 pm

Thanks for the guidance...that worked for me.

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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:18 pm

Keep in mind this feature is initial implementation and a part of more complex BGP debugging tools currently work in progress.
This is totally understandable! Is an release-candidate, correct? That is the function of this chain of releases.

Seizing the opportunity:
If I saw it correctly, winbox still hasn't brought these attributes. But no problem with that! Is an RC.
You will need to:
*) enable "output.keep-sent-attributes" in BGP connection settings
P.S.: It remembers-me of soft-reconfigration inbound of quagga. rsrsrs

If I understood correctly, it will keep a copy of announced routes per peer... Is that correct?

On the one hand, this is good, as it brings RouterOS closer to being able to support BMP (RFC7854).

On the other hand, this seems like a rather crude solution.
Something that fits well for this moment, allowing it to be enabled in the peers (or templates) only at the time of troubleshooting.
Either way, it eases the pain we're feeling. Thanks.

But I don't see it as a good long-term solution!
I'm not a programmer, but I imagine that instead of keeping a COMPLETE copy of all the routes for each peer sent, using incremental inheritance based on the route that brought the announcement can significantly reduce memory consumption.

I will try to do my homework between today and tomorrow, and if appropriate I will bring my impressions.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:28 pm

Any eta on when the tool will be available for this?
Was able to do this method to debug a session but takes a lot more time than previously.
All the while customers are complaining.
V6 was pretty good.. curious to see how the new implementation works out.
I got a CCR-216-12G-4S+ with v7 on it .. and i'm a bit worried about deployment,.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:26 pm

This feature seems to be implemented in an improvised way. In the roadmap of RouterOS 7 there's still the goal of providing a command that outputs directly the list of advertised routes, as other profissional vendors support (e.g.: Cisco, Juniper, Nokia, Alcatel, Extreme, Arista etc.), right?

I do not want to sound disrespectful but saving BGP advertisements to a dump file and requiring it to be downloaded and opened in Wireshark to be interpreted is a very stupid idea to be kept in the long road as a permanent solution.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:38 pm

You are not required to download it. See posts above.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:09 pm

This feature seems to be implemented in an improvised way.

It's just temporary solution as @mrz wrote March 23rd:

Keep in mind this feature is initial implementation and a part of more complex BGP debugging tools currently work in progress.
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:39 pm

Mar 23, 2022
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:52 pm

Corrected!
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:05 pm

Ros 7.3.1, dump-saved-advertisements does nothing.. no error, no log, no saved file...
Bgp session with .keep-sent-attributes=yes
routing/bgp/session/dump-saved-advertisements iBGP_IT3-EDGE02-1 save-to=t1.pcap

absolutly notting happens... :-/
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:55 pm

Big effort is put in order to implement this feature, as we hear and notice that is vital for your setups. Either advertisement will be available at 7.2 or perhaps we will take addditional time to polish the feature and postpone it to the next "big" version (7.3?).
version 7.3.2 (stable) or version 7.4 (stable) will there be an update about the command to see the BGP prefix advertisements?
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:28 pm

if you want to see what you are advertise, the only really working way is to do a packet sniffing of BGP packets (TCP 179), open it with WireShark, looking for an UPDATE message, then in the body looking for BGP-> NLRI
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:11 am

I am testing dum-saved-advertisements after setting output.keep-sent-attributes to yes with enough ram and hdd space and there is no pcap file.
Mikrotik, there is an alternative to sniffing and inspecting with wireshark that will work?
Thanks!
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:18 pm

Keep in mind this feature is initial implementation and a part of more complex BGP debugging tools currently work in progress.

At the time of writing this post advertisements can be seen by dumping outgoing advertisements to pcap file.
You will need to:
*) enable "output.keep-sent-attributes" in BGP connection settings
*) run "dump-saved-advertisements " with specified session id and filename specified with "save-to" from the BGP session menu
*) output then can be seen by limited pcap viewer in "/routing/stats/pcap" menu or by downloading pcap file and viewed in Wireshark.

Before trying to use this feature make sure that that there is enough free RAM and free space on HDD. 800k routes will take around 120MB RAM and more than 300MB of HDD if dumped to file.
Hi, Can we use this with v7.4? I'm trying to use it but nothing apears.

Thank you.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:32 pm

Hi,
I am also testing with 7.4 and nothing happens. It seems that no pcap file is saved/wrote out to be printed in /route/stats/pcap.
Thanks,
Keep in mind this feature is initial implementation and a part of more complex BGP debugging tools currently work in progress.

At the time of writing this post advertisements can be seen by dumping outgoing advertisements to pcap file.
You will need to:
*) enable "output.keep-sent-attributes" in BGP connection settings
*) run "dump-saved-advertisements " with specified session id and filename specified with "save-to" from the BGP session menu
*) output then can be seen by limited pcap viewer in "/routing/stats/pcap" menu or by downloading pcap file and viewed in Wireshark.

Before trying to use this feature make sure that that there is enough free RAM and free space on HDD. 800k routes will take around 120MB RAM and more than 300MB of HDD if dumped to file.
Hi, Can we use this with v7.4? I'm trying to use it but nothing apears.

Thank you.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:48 am

It is unacceptable that mikrotik has released version 7.x as stable with the lack of basic features.

many people who have little experience end up going to version 7 because it is presented as stable at the top of the downloads page and then soon discover that several features are not yet fully enabled.

As a consultant, I've had to deal with several customers who put version 7 inadvertently because they thought it was already a stable and reliable version because the mikrotik website says so.

I'm testing it in the lab, simulating the environment of a medium-sized ISP, because we have already ordered several CCR2216 and they only work on RouterOS7.

I can't believe that RouterOS7 was released as stable with a lack of essential features.

How could anyone think the functionality of seeing bgp routes was unnecessary and not a priority?

How to do a basic troubleshooting that every known BGP application on the market has (Cisco, Juniper, Qagga, FRR, Huawei and thousands of others) and mikrotik magically removed it in version 7?

"but just sniff the packets" NO, THIS IS NOT PRACTICAL IN A DIAGNOSTIC PROCESS THAT NEED TO BE FAST.

For a home and maybe even a small business environment, RoS7 can be considered stable.

But for the ISP environment like a BGP edge or other more complex enterprise applications it is not ready yet.

Maybe 1 year from now, routerOS7 will have the necessary maturity to be on the BGP edge of an ISP or some more complex business application.

For now, ISPs don't move out of version 6. Keep RoS7 only in labs.
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:17 pm

Any further progress on this?
Upgrading routers to new 7.5 and want to ensure ease of debugging during the maintenance window. So there is not frantic debugging
Running 7.5, and was hoping for a nicer way to see the advertisements. Like V6 had
 
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Re: ROSv7 equivalent of /routing/bgp/advertisements print

Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:07 pm

+1 for this feature request

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