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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:51 am

Yes, most people who have MikroTik routers do not use MPLS, VXLAN or OSPFv3. OSPFv3 actually works for me, but I haven't done testing on a big network. I don't know about VXLAN (haven't tried it yet), but MPLS is very problematic for me at the moment. This is not going to be safe for me to use in a service provider environment until it is much more bulletproof.

This release should be considered stable enough for home and homelab use, not necessarily for businesses. A lot of home users don't want to try anything that says "beta" or "release candidate" and MikroTik is probably hoping that calling this release 7.1 stable instead of 7.1 testing or 7.1rc8 that more home users will move to it and help to uncover new bugs to be fixed. Business customers should not be upgrading blindly, but if they do, they may be upset by some features not working right, or not even implemented at all yet (like The Dude server).
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:07 am

What is actually considered stable depends on what you use. Some users may not have any issues... while for others it's just unusable. I think most important is to get all functions that are currently present in v6 working without issues in v7. While there's many cool new features in v7, they can wait. This can be frustrating for some users, wanting new stuff, but minimal "it's stable" status is "it can do all of the basic v6 stuff without imploding" which is still probably months away...
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:05 am

Netflow is still broken and completely useless. viewtopic.php?t=178177
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:18 am

7.1 on CCR1072 crashed after ~5h. Needed manual power cycle.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:55 am

Version 7.1 has been released.

!) support for ZeroTier on ARM and ARM64 devices;
Are there plans to add ZeroTier to other architectures?
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:22 am

And anyway - congratulations!

P.S.

I keep this letter fondly. I should check to see if this bug has been corrected or not. :)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:37:35 +0200
To: Fyodor Ustinov <ufm@xxxxxxxx.net.ua>
From: "MikroTik support [Janis M.]" <support@mikrotik.com>

[...]

...This problem will be solved in RouterOS v7, that we are trying to put into beta until
big European MUM.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:02 am

Are there plans to add ZeroTier to other architectures?
It may be a space problem, so could be hard to get inn to all devices.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:40 am

There are two branches v6 and v7.
Each of them has their own channels, if there is v7 "testing", "stable" or whatever, it does not replace versions in v6 channels.
There is only one released v7 version (7.1), so it basically fills all the channels of v7 branch until newer version is built for specific channel.
 /system/resource> print 
                   uptime: 6m29s
                  version: 7.1 (testing)
               build-time: Dec/01/2021 14:07:27
         factory-software: 6.0
              free-memory: 43.1MiB
             total-memory: 96.0MiB
                      cpu: Intel(R)
                cpu-count: 1
            cpu-frequency: 2400MHz
                 cpu-load: 3%
           free-hdd-space: 72.8MiB
          total-hdd-space: 89.2MiB
  write-sect-since-reboot: 1384
         write-sect-total: 1385
        architecture-name: x86_64
               board-name: CHR
                 platform: MikroTik
stable Or testing?
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:42 am

I'm able to generate a kernel panic on a CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS (capsman controller) when I enable caps-mode on a 951Ui-2HnD. If I leave this enabled, the CCR is rebooting in a loop. Cap certificate was just generated, capsman controller is reached via IP, not discovery interface. There's nothing in the logs other than the kernel crash message.
I added a 941-2nD before, using the discovery interface, that works without causing a crash on the controller.

Same Problem here. CCR1009 with Capsman "on" crash and reboot in loop without logging any Problem.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:58 am

@benoga I got an answer from support.
I’ll try that tomorrow, when I’m in the office.
Here’s the response I got, you may want to check that.
#[SUP-67981]:
Connect a serial cable to this device, open the serial console, and make sure that you have successfully connected to RouterOS CLI.
Now leave the device running and console opened and reproduce the same problem again. After the problem appears, copy serial console output to a text file.
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:S ... al_Console
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Serial_Port_Usage
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:38 am

I believe MikroTik did this in part due to complaints: people with routers that have auto upgrade scripts to upgrade to the latest "stable" were complaining that they might have hundreds of devices upgrading to v7 unintentionally when v7 stable was released, and asked for a v7-stable release tree separate from the v6-stable release tree, and MikroTik has done this.
yes, if you run v6, you can't accidentaly upgrade to v7. you have to manually select channel titled "upgrade" to do this. so everyone is safe and nobody is forced to use v7
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:44 am

I just tried to upgrade my hap ac3 but had to downgrade it back to 6.49.2 again. IPv6 throughput on 6.49.2 is 420Mbit/s but on 7.1 it's only 200Mbit/s. So that's a significant regression.
Thanks!

Can anyone else share numbers on IPv6 routing speeds?

I was about to gamble on upgrading a hAP ac to v7.1 hoping it would increase IPv6 routing speeds, but if it only gets worse I'd rather not.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:47 am

For hAP ac2 all IPv6 traffic is bound to one core, I'm guessing it's valid for all ipq401x devices. You can't push very much through one core.
And your hAP ac has only one core.
I was frustrated with the crappy IPv6 speeds too, but I fixed it, upgraded to RB5009.
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:48 am

any update about ticket opened about x86 platiform: [SUP-67882] [SUP-67221]:
thanks
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:05 am

stable Or testing?
Stable.
Read forum before post.
Example: viewtopic.php?p=895562#p895562
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:14 am

Speaking of IPv6, radvd doesn't wanna work today:
 11:10:43 radvd,debug received Router Solicitation on  interface=bridge
 11:10:43 radvd,debug sending Router Advertisement on bridge
 11:10:43 radvd,debug adding MTU option, MTU=1500
 11:10:43 radvd,debug adding link-layer address option, mac-address=DC:2C:6E:xx:xx:xx
 11:10:43 radvd,debug adding prefix=2a02:2f0d:xxx:xxx::/64
 11:10:43 radvd,debug sendmsg failed on bridge (fe80:3133::de2c:6eff:xxxx:xxxx): Invalid argument
Just spotted the issue.
That LL addr does NOT exist on the bridge currently, no idea why it's trying to use something that's not there.
That LL addr was a leftover from playing with a LL pool for wireguard, I know, my fault.
Good ol'
ipv6/settings/set disable-ipv6=yes
ipv6/settings/set disable-ipv6=no
Fixes it.
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:16 am

It is already built in. When you do an in-pace upgrade of a router running v6 the rules will be update to v7.
It is advised to take a close look at them, though.
Unfortunately, it does NOT work. Tested on several different devices

I have not converted a single filter, and also not a single feast has moved. This is a known problem, I am not the only one. Also, on those routers where BGP was configured, it became impossible to add a template with peers
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:02 pm

I have converted from v6 to v7 but not with RouterOS v7.1 but only with an rc version. So I do not know if it got broken now.
What I understand is that when you upgrade to v7 and then downgrade to v6 (other than by netinstall) the conversion (crossfig) does not run again when you again upgrade to v7 but it re-uses the previous conversion.
However it should be possible to load a backup made in v6 (with the desired configuration) into v7 and it will run the conversion again.
If in doubt, netinstall v6 and import the exported config, make sure all is OK and THEN upgrade to v7.

I have posted the idea that it could be good to have crossfig available offline (e.g. on the mikrotik website) so we can paste our v6 config there and have it converted, and then decide what we want to paste in our v7 installed router. Have seen no response, no idea how difficult it would be to make that (i.e. how independent crossfig is from the router environment. it could be just a perl script...)
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:17 pm

+ keep in mind that v6 backup should be created prior to any v7 upgrade, if you had v7 upgrade, then downgrade to v6 and then made a backup it will also save old v7 config.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:54 pm

Is MLAG stable in version 7.1 for use in data centers?
2 x Switch CRS326-24S+2Q+RM configured with one bridge, multiple ports with different PVID and with several ports configured as tagged?
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:30 pm

You should only move to v7 if all the needed features are there. A decision was made, that we will not hold v7 release for much longer, because so many people can already use it, and it works great for 90% of users. People with specific needs for specific functions can then test 7.2 or next releases, but those who don't need them, can safely use 7.1 now.
RouterOS 7.2 ? where is the download link
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:34 pm

Soon
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:36 pm

Well, upgrading my 3011 to 7.1 was pain in the behind. BGP worked, but src nat stopped working. It marked my public ip as invalid route. using masquerade worked fine, but i need my public ip's exposed....
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:39 pm

Posting the old and new config would help in such situations
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:46 pm

Hello,

As a feedback after upgrading multiple RB 3011 routers and wAP G-5HacT2HnD WiFi APs to 7.1:

- At least one RB 3011 had to be factory reset and configuration backup restored in order to work after 7.1 upgrade. Others didn't have such issue.

- At least one RouterBOARD wAP G-5HacT2HnD WiFi AP started irregular self reboots after 7.1 upgrade. Downgrading it to 6.49.2 solved the issue.

- The DUDE server is not available under 7.1 packages. Therefore we had to leave our CHR and Dude server in 6.49.2.

Andac
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:49 pm

When The Dude server will be implemented in V7 ???
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:51 pm

I keep this letter fondly. I should check to see if this bug has been corrected or not. :)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:37:35 +0200
To: Fyodor Ustinov <ufm@xxxxxxxx.net.ua>
From: "MikroTik support [Janis M.]" <support@mikrotik.com>

[...]

...This problem will be solved in RouterOS v7, that we are trying to put into beta until
big European MUM.
Well, he did not say "big European MUM 2015", right? Maybe it was planned for the MUM 2021?
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:34 pm

Soon
Any status for MPLS L3?
I've upgrade 1 MPLS L3 working node from v6.49.1 to v7.1.
After upgrade, all ospf bgp, mpls indeed converted automatically but the L3 connectivity were broken.

I try to downgrade to 6.49.1 again and the L3 connectivity back to works.

thx
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:49 pm

Yup, it looks like 7.1 moved to stable.

MikroTik: Was that the exact same build as 7.1 testing or were there some fixes before it went stable?
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:50 pm

it is the same build, just updated channels in the web.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:02 pm

OpenVPN client doesn't work in 7.1. It was working just fine with 6.49.2 and all previous versions. Here's the log:
 16:35:38 ovpn,info ovpn-out1: initializing...
 16:35:38 ovpn,info ovpn-out1: connecting...
 16:35:39 ovpn,info ovpn-out1: using encoding - AES-256-CBC/SHA1
 16:35:39 ovpn,info ovpn-out1: terminating... - wrong OVPN data
 16:35:39 ovpn,info ovpn-out1: disconnected
Please help.
Easy Return to 6.49.2, problem solved. Did you send a supout to MT?
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:37 pm

Are there plans to add ZeroTier to other architectures?
It may be a space problem, so could be hard to get inn to all devices.
I do not understand why there is no support on the X86 architecture.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:48 pm

Can we expect v7 dude soonish?
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:55 pm

PDF information: https://mt.lv/RouterOSv7

Video in Spanish: https://youtu.be/fzLxTl6VXRI
Video in English: https://youtu.be/Zp-U7Anv5-0
Video in Russian: https://youtu.be/xRGBbXJc1xA
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:08 pm

It seems that Router 7.1 fixed my non-working ethernet interfaces for all but Ether12 on an RB1100 X2 AH
viewtopic.php?t=178341#p880735
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:10 pm

PDF information: https://mt.lv/RouterOSv7

Video in Spanish: https://youtu.be/fzLxTl6VXRI
Video in English: https://youtu.be/Zp-U7Anv5-0
Video in Russian: https://youtu.be/xRGBbXJc1xA
The video missed the most important point......................
Where do I get that Unicorn MuG!!
Normis email me to get my physical address for mug package!

On a serious note.
community filtering addressing???
zerotier (sdwan) for the home....... what will it allow me to do??
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:16 pm

For hAP ac2 all IPv6 traffic is bound to one core, I'm guessing it's valid for all ipq401x devices. You can't push very much through one core.
And your hAP ac has only one core.
I was frustrated with the crappy IPv6 speeds too, but I fixed it, upgraded to RB5009.
This is fully understood, but doesn't explain why the speed dropped by about 60% going from 6.49.2 to 7.1. I assume both are only using the one core, so why is there such a regression in IPv6 speed in 7.1? If that's not resolved I will be stuck on 6.x until I replace the hap ac3 with something else one day in the far future. I know that 7.1 has a completely new IPv6 stack, but new things are usually an improvement and don't make them worse.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:16 pm

CCR2004: all channels point to 7.1, graphing through https still broken.
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:22 pm

In RB4011 After update from 6.49.2 to 7.1 i have the next problems:
1. ip > fw > service ports
dccp, sctp, updlite have invalid notice
2. $ros variable in script give 7.1 (testing) as result
3. ipv6 > fw > cvonnections
is empty with none connections
4. ipv6 > fw > filter rules
i have accept established/related connections and after that
i have drop invalid.
With above setup, all connections drop as invalid (tcp syn,ack,syn/ack, udp).
The above setup work perfect in 6.x editions.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:26 pm

NTP webfig UI seems broken, it doesn't display servers, and edits are not applied. 7.1/CCR2004

The release also still says "testing", I assume since it was not rebuilt.
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:35 pm

NTP webfig UI seems broken, it doesn't display servers, and edits are not applied. 7.1/CCR2004
Works well on my CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:49 pm

...
3. ipv6 > fw > cvonnections
is empty with none connections
4. ipv6 > fw > filter rules
i have accept established/related connections and after that
i have drop invalid.
With above setup, all connections drop as invalid (tcp syn,ack,syn/ack, udp).
The above setup work perfect in 6.x editions.
I have same issue with ipv6 on hAP AC after upgrade. No connections, filter rules with established/related filter doesn't work. It looks like connection tracking doesn't work properly.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:51 pm

News letter is not saying this is stable.
Lol
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:05 pm

Easy Return to 6.49.2, problem solved. Did you send a supout to MT?
I'm not that desperate, yet.. How can I send supout to MT?
See here:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:S ... utput_File
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:04 pm

VXLAN cannot be configured with unicast addresses but multicast routing is poorly documented and does not seem to work, etc. etc. etc.

Most people would not consider software with so many bugs "stable."
VXLAN with unicast works its not documented properly nor does Mikrotik team bother to check forum. Use any arbitrary multicast id on the vxlan interface. In terminal go to interfaces/vxlan/vteps >add vtep interface=<vxlan interface> remote=<remote address> port=<vxlan port>
This will establish the tunnel.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:19 pm

On hap ac2 with 16 MiB storage can I upgrade directly from 6.49.2 to 7.1 via upgrade channel (if yes will v6.49.2 config be valid for v7.1 ?) or do I have to use netinstall instead and make a fresh install ? Are there any advantages for hap ac2 of version 7 or should i stick with v6 ?
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:47 pm

On hap ac2 with 16 MiB storage can I upgrade directly from 6.49.2 to 7.1 via upgrade channel (if yes will v6.49.2 config be valid for v7.1 ?) or do I have to use netinstall instead and make a fresh install ? Are there any advantages for hap ac2 of version 7 or should i stick with v6 ?
In case the hAP ac2 is running the single combined package it will probably work, when it is running separate packages you will need to do a netinstall.
This is now a confirmed bug that affects the hAP ac2 and maybe other devices but not all. In some other devices with separate packages I had no problems.

My hAP ac2 is used as a wireless AP in bridge mode, and it works fine with 7.1, no difference observed with 6.49.1
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:50 pm

Hi guys,

great job, but it still lacks some important features for VPN:
1. VTI support for IPSec. This is important, because open the door to use remote RB as a fully functional router using standardized secure connection. Cisco, for example, don't and, I guess, will never support Wireguard, while IPSec is everywhere.
2. kind of DMVPN. This is great automation tool to build mesh secured networks.

Kindly ask you to consider long-standing community requests and add at least VTI support to ROS.

Thank you.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:03 pm

I was kind of waiting for it... after the requests for VTI there would be DMVPN.
But of course IPsec technology and MikroTik routers already support quite easy to deploy mesh networks (especially with 7.1) but not with the Cisco proprietary standards.
When you have only MikroTik or when you have access to the Cisco configuration you can use e.g. GRE over IPsec transport and BGP for the autorouting, and have similar functionality to VTI or DMVPN.
Asking MikroTik for DMVPN is like asking Microsoft to support Apple iOS applications... you can try and keep trying, but they will encounter hurdles and maybe have other priorities.
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:06 pm

I was kind of waiting for it... after the requests for VTI there would be DMVPN.
But of course IPsec technology and MikroTik routers already support quite easy to deploy mesh networks (especially with 7.1) but not with the Cisco proprietary standards.
When you have only MikroTik or when you have access to the Cisco configuration you can use e.g. GRE over IPsec transport and BGP for the autorouting, and have similar functionality to VTI or DMVPN.
Asking MikroTik for DMVPN is like asking Microsoft to support Apple iOS applications... you can try and keep trying, but they will encounter hurdles and maybe have other priorities.
A birdy whispered this one to me in response to VTI.....
" USE an IPIP tunnel encrypted using IPsec policy in transport mode instead, it has the same overhead like the VTI which is just an IPsec policy in tunnel mode but instead of choosing the traffic by matching it to a traffic selector, it gets the traffic by normal routing as it is linked to the virtual tunnel interface."
 
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Can birdie "connect IPIP tunnel encrypted using IPsec policy in transport mode" to IPsec VTI?
No, birdie can't connect those two.
 
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- The DUDE server is not available under 7.1 packages. Therefore we had to leave our CHR and Dude server in 6.49.2.
+1 for The Dude Server...
Did someone try to use 7.1 agents on 6.48.x Dude Server ? I suppose it will not work, as the previous minor version upgrades wasn't compatible with each other
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:38 pm

Upgrading from 6.49.1 worked mostly fine for us, except;

* OSPF areas connected over PPP-links were missing;
This was lost in ROS6:
/routing ospf network
add area=backbone network=10.7.1.0/24

Manually readded in ROS7 after upgrade like this:
/routing ospf interface-template
add area=backbone-v2 networks=10.7.1.0/24 type=ptp


* Metal 2SHPn crashes when wlan1 interface is enabled (using Atheros AR92xx).
Not supported by ROS7 ?
 
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Can birdie "connect IPIP tunnel encrypted using IPsec policy in transport mode" to IPsec VTI?
No, birdie can't connect those two.
No, but when you can configure the other end as well you can configure that with IPIP/IPsec or GRE/IPsec and it will work.
Of course you then still have to arrange the routing. As I expected, DMVPN was thrown in as the next "we need to have this or else!"...

When you want to setup a VPN (partly) mesh e.g. for a number of company locations, and you want to use MikroTik routers (possibly combined with Cisco), you can use the standard protocols GRE/IPsec or L2TP/IPsec and BGP. It will work fine.
It is not VTI. It is not DMVPN. But it is not Cisco, the inventor of those proprietary protocols.
 
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I tried to upgrade couple of routers to test, and I see TE does not work, has anybody else managed to get it working? Thank you.
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:13 pm

Upgraded my RB4011 + wireless as my home router, and the unit would boot loop every minute or so. I do have an EoIP tunnel on it which never passed traffic, and I have 2 Caps client.
I can't play too much with it right now so reverted it back to v6 and it back to normal ! v7 still have a long way to go ! I hope it get there !
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:30 pm

Graphing work only in http mode.
In https i get a "Error 404: Not Found".
In the same time the webfig with https work perfect.
 
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Support at mikrotik dot com.

Too obvious ?
 
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Mail it to support@mikrotik.com
Or better: go to https://help.mikrotik.com/servicedesk/ and create an account.
Create a new ticket, describe the issue, and add the supout.rif file when submitting the ticket.
 
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Bug: Increasing RIP route timeout, garbage collector and update interval in Routing->Rip->Instance has no effect (unless they are not defined in seconds as I assume)...
Setting GC e.g. to 1200 will still wipe out routes after 3 minutes.

Wish: Add suppress HW offload option to RIP interface template.
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What happened? How to upgrade to v7.1?
(this attempt done through Check For Updates from Channel: upgrade)
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:53 pm

Didn't you read any of posts in this thread? The only way of installing ROSv7 on de-bundled ROSv6 hAP ac2 is netinstall.
 
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They do work. v7 introduced a new limitation: target-scope of your route must be greater than target-scope of the route through which it should be resolved.
Heh, I am not sure if I need to take a philosophy course or go to Hogwarts School of Magic to understand that sentence let alone MTs intentions. Never understood scope anyway (at least nothing sticks in my brain).
Well, easier way of thinking about it is: "target-scope must be lower on each level of recursion"
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:09 pm

This is fully understood, but doesn't explain why the speed dropped by about 60% going from 6.49.2 to 7.1.
How are you testing the IPv6 speed in 7.1? The test method may have something to do with it.
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:27 pm

News letter has a typo - OSFP at one point - looks like its just as QA'd as ROSv7 :D

I'll be waiting a fair few releases before even considering this. Its not even up to feature parity with v6 correct?
 
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This is fully understood, but doesn't explain why the speed dropped by about 60% going from 6.49.2 to 7.1.
How are you testing the IPv6 speed in 7.1? The test method may have something to do with it.
Four different speed tests. speedtest.net, fast.com, my ISPs own speedtest server, and one at AWS. I have Gbit fibre. With IPv4 it goes at 920Mbit/s on both 6.49.2 and 7.1. With IPv6 it goes at 420Mbit/s on 6.49.2. Upgrade to 7.1 and it drops to 200Mbit/s on all four different speedtests. Downgrade it back to 6.49.2 and it's back up to 420Mbit/s again.
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:44 pm

...
3. ipv6 > fw > cvonnections
is empty with none connections
4. ipv6 > fw > filter rules
i have accept established/related connections and after that
i have drop invalid.
With above setup, all connections drop as invalid (tcp syn,ack,syn/ack, udp).
The above setup work perfect in 6.x editions.
I have same issue with ipv6 on hAP AC after upgrade. No connections, filter rules with established/related filter doesn't work. It looks like connection tracking doesn't work properly.
Same. IPv6 is broken on hAP ac. Earlier I asked about v7 IPv6 forwarding speed. Guess it's 0 Mbit/s for hAP ac.

IPv6 works on v6. On v7 IPv6 DHCPv6, RA works, but LAN→WAN forwarding fails. I can even ping from the internet to LAN - ICMPv6 is delivered to LAN, but the reply doesn't seem to get forwarded even with an ACCEPT IPv6 on top of FORWARD chain (sniffer shows it on LAN bridge, but not on WAN).

Also, the neighbor discovery list shows all entries stale/noarp, with only sometimes displaying reachable.
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check your routes...
I'm sick of reposting this link everywhere
viewtopic.php?t=177800#p874200
 
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Tried to update RB4011 from 6.49.1 to 7.1 (very simple setup). Reboot went fine, but after FW update the device went unusable (no IP address on any interface, no access via MAC (even directly connected to the device), but winbox showed is as neighboured). Netinstall ...
Same here with RB4011. I had to restore to factory defaults via console and revert to 6.49
 
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:59 pm

Serious question. How to upgrade the flash storage on hAP ac2?
If I want to install a wifiwave2 14MB package to a 16 MB storage size ...
Is it possible that Mikrotik will provide a path where we can have RouterOS v7 with wifiwave2? Or is there a way to desolder stock flash chip and solder a larger - perhaps 32MB flash chip?
Seriously.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:12 am

Seems like development channel is deleted? it says file not found. Moved over to "testing" channel.
Any idea about container package availability? Just ordered a RB5009 to play with, its cpu power will mostly sit idle without docker :(
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:22 am

Unable to upgrade from 6.49.2. Stops at "Calculating Download Size" on a RB1100AHx4... Have removed Dude, still no luck...
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:38 am

Four different speed tests. speedtest.net, fast.com, my ISPs own speedtest server, and one at AWS. I have Gbit fibre. With IPv4 it goes at 920Mbit/s on both 6.49.2 and 7.1. With IPv6 it goes at 420Mbit/s on 6.49.2. Upgrade to 7.1 and it drops to 200Mbit/s on all four different speedtests. Downgrade it back to 6.49.2 and it's back up to 420Mbit/s again.
Unfortunately this is expected. Route caching no longer exists in v7 and in v6 it gave an artificial boost (usually double or even more) to the actual real world bandwidth that you could get, for speed tests and bulk downloads. So on RouterOS v6 you are getting a speedtest result of 420Mbps, but the actual real world traffic with normal traffic patterns would probably drop it down to below 200Mbps capacity, because unlike speed tests and big file downloads, normal real world traffic patterns are mostly cache miss events, decreasing performance.

So the good news is that for real world traffic patterns, it is probably faster than your router on RouterOS v6. The bad news is that because v6 gives that artificial boost to the speed test results, you cannot compare this, and v6 appears to be much faster than v7 because of the speedtest results.

This is not "fixable" as it is not a problem, and you should not expect additional v7 releases to make a big difference here in terms of performance. IPv6 fasttrack would of course make a big improvement, but that is unrelated to route caching.
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:46 am

check your routes...
I'm sick of reposting this link everywhere
viewtopic.php?t=177800#p874200
Thanks. That solves it.

If you use PPPoE and DHCPv6 uncheck 'Add Default Gateway' on the latter, or set route distance >1

After your comment I checked my routes:
[admin@router] /routing/route> print detail where afi=ip6 dst-address=::/0
Flags: X - disabled, F - filtered, U - unreachable, A - active; 
c - connect, s - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, d - dhcp, v - vpn, m - modem, a - ldp-address, l - ldp-mapping, y - copy; 
H - hw-offloaded; + - ecmp, B - blackhole 
 Av + afi=ip6 contribution=active dst-address=::/0 routing-table=main pref-src="" gateway=pppoe 
       immediate-gw=pppoe distance=1 scope=30 target-scope=10 belongs-to="VPN route" 
       debug.fwp-ptr=0x202423C0 

 Ad + afi=ip6 contribution=active dst-address=::/0 routing-table=main pref-src="" 
       gateway=fe80::ae4e:91ff:fe66:ecc9%pppoe immediate-gw=pppoe distance=1 scope=30 target-scope=10 
       vrf-interface=pppoe belongs-to="DHCP route" 
       debug.fwp-ptr=0x20242360 
Somehow both PPPoE and DHCPv6 add a route. Note:
  • If you disable IPv6 on PPPoE profile (configure explicit no, because default implies yes) DHCPv6 doesn't work anymore either. Is that a bug or a feature?
  • Why is this marked ECMP? Why doesn't it work?
  • You can fix it by disabling Add Default Route on DHCPv6 or set DHCPv6 default route distance to >1.
What the hell..

[hr]

As for IPv6 routing speed: my download speed on hAP ac degraded from 36.8 MB/s (v6) to 20.6 MB/s (v7) on a HTTP 1gb.bin speedtest.
Unfortunately this is expected. Route caching no longer exists in v7 and in v6 it gave an artificial boost (usually double or even more) to the actual real world bandwidth that you could get, for speed tests and bulk downloads.
Interesting. Do you have more details on how/why this works?

EDIT: perhaps this: Tuning Linux IPv4 route cache? Also mentions it was dropped in Linux v3.6+
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:56 am

Interesting. Do you have more details on how/why this works? Why is a cache relevant if it's traffic from a single originating IP?
Route caching was a feature in the Linux kernel that was taken out about 10 years ago. It created a "cache" of routes based on source and destination hashes to improve performance. However, the large number of port scanners that started to appear caused the cache to fill up with garbage src-destination pairs, making performance even worse than if it didn't exist. So route caching was removed from the Linux kernel because of this. In RouterOS v6 it makes speedtests faster for one system, or a big file download for one system faster, but with real world traffic for a bunch of clients to a bunch of different destinations is much slower on RouterOS v6 because it has to look in the cache first, and the cache actually slows things down in this case. So RouterOS v7 is actually faster in general, it just appears to be slower because of what route caching does with a speed test. A better way of comparing v6 and v7 performance would be to set up a bunch of systems behind the router and have a bunch of users going to many websites to try to create as much traffic as possible, but that is too much work for most people.

In other words, in situations where the CPU becomes a bottleneck, in RouterOS v6 the speedtest results could show you about double what your router could actually do. In RouterOS v7 it should show what it can actually do.

More details from @raimondsp can be found here: viewtopic.php?p=882867#p882867
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:15 am

Thanks, very interesting!

I think my real-life v6 performance was closer to 20 MB/s than 36 MB/s (which supports your theory), but my gut feeling tells me traffic patterns would be the deciding factor in the end - on a home connection it seems easy to hit the cache on a single download (I'm sure it was slightly faster in practice than my benchmark), whereas if you're an ISP serving many clients v7 would most definitely be faster.

Time to upgrade to RB5009 I guess..
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:34 am

on a home connection it seems easy to hit the cache on a single download (I'm sure it was slightly faster in practice than my benchmark)
Yes, that's true - anything like a speedtest or big file download and similar bulk transfer between an IP pair will mostly hit the cache (100% or close), but usually people only download big files and do speed tests very irregularly and not very often at all, so it does not represent most users typical traffic patterns.

For more people it is going to come down to a psychological thing - it is nice and reassuring seeing big numbers on the speed tests, and going up to v7 and seeing those drop (which will happen to many people) is going to cause some disappointment, even with these explanations given.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:48 am

trying to upgrade a CHR, is anyone getting this too?

@MikroTik] /system package update> download
channel: upgrade
installed-version: 6.49.2
latest-version: 7.1
status: calculating download size..

been like this for hours
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:22 am

capac doesnt want to upgrade from 6.48.6 so I upgraded it to 6.49.9 thinking maybe it was a step to far same result.
It loads the ARM file 12.3 Size and goes through what looks like a normal cycle process, disconnects and a minute later or so come back up??

Also, once I get it uploaded, where is the safe mode selected (where one can turn off the "feature" that allows someone to bypass the cleansing effects of netinstall).
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:36 am

Bootloop in starting kernel with version 6 bonding. I can send my .backup to support for review, just write to me.
 
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Bootloop in starting kernel with version 6 bonding. I can send my .backup to support for review, just write to me.
You should just email support with a supout file, it is preferred to a .backup.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:50 am

Bootloop in starting kernel with version 6 bonding. I can send my .backup to support for review, just write to me.
You should just email support with a supout file, it is preferred to a .backup.
Not possible, the router never starts
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:06 am

I just tried to upgrade my hap ac3 but had to downgrade it back to 6.49.2 again. IPv6 throughput on 6.49.2 is 420Mbit/s but on 7.1 it's only 200Mbit/s. So that's a significant regression.
On hEX(RB760iGS) the same issue... in 6.49.2 i can get full 600Mbit/s up and down(without any ipv6 rule on firewall) and 400 Mbit/s up/down(with ipv6 firewall rule)

With 7.1 i can only get 300Mbit/s with ipv6 enabled, with or without rules on ipv6 firewall.

Tested on speedtest and downloading a torrent file

CPU stuck at 30..40% and download speed don't increase more than 20...25 MBs/s
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:18 am

With 7.1 i can only get 300Mbit/s with ipv6 enabled, with or without rules on ipv6 firewall.
Please see my previous response, this is normal and expected:

viewtopic.php?p=896088#p896045

And see the following messages as well where more detail and context was provided.
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:24 am

With 7.1 i can only get 300Mbit/s with ipv6 enabled, with or without rules on ipv6 firewall.
Please see my previous response, this is normal and expected:

viewtopic.php?p=896088#p896045

And see the following messages as well where more detail and context was provided.
Yeah i see...

But in previous versions on beta 7, before add ipv6 nat firewall i don't have any drop speed (just if i add some firewall rules on ipv6, but with blank table my speed keep full)

On 7.1 if i disable ipv6 on my machine, i can get full speed too
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:27 am

On 7.1 if i disable ipv6 on my machine, i can get full speed too
Because in both RouterOS v6 and v7, there is fasttrack available for IPv4 and not IPv6. When you use this it decreases the CPU load of IPv4 traffic, and it is enabled by default. So this gives you a "boost" for IPv4 that isn't there for IPv6. In RouterOS v6 there was the route cache that gave an artificial boost to speedtest traffic and similar bulk transfers, which helped the IPv6 speedtest results a bit, but now this is gone in v7. You should get full speed when they finally add fasttrack for IPv6 in RouterOS v7 - I'm sure this is in the pipeline.

Obviously if there were a secondary problem here, it would be hard to diagnose if you can't really use speedtest to verify it, but my suspicion in your case is that there is probably no issue. Even a few months back, I already foresaw when MikroTik did the stable release of v7 that there would be many people popping up to say that there was some major issue because their router was slower than before, but that most of those would be noise and non-issues because of the route caching removal reducing speedtest results. Unfortunately that noise makes it hard to separate the people who are having real issues that they shouldn't be having from the people who are just experiencing the slower speedtest results in v7 due to the route caching change.
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:33 am

Container is missing?
Yes, this is already known - I am guessing it will probably make an appearance in 7.2 as it was not ready, you can use the rc3 if you really need it.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:05 am

On 7.1 if i disable ipv6 on my machine, i can get full speed too
Because in both RouterOS v6 and v7, there is fasttrack available for IPv4 and not IPv6. When you use this it decreases the CPU load of IPv4 traffic, and it is enabled by default. So this gives you a "boost" for IPv4 that isn't there for IPv6. In RouterOS v6 there was the route cache that gave an artificial boost to speedtest traffic and similar bulk transfers, which helped the IPv6 speedtest results a bit, but now this is gone in v7. You should get full speed when they finally add fasttrack for IPv6 in RouterOS v7 - I'm sure this is in the pipeline.

Obviously if there were a secondary problem here, it would be hard to diagnose if you can't really use speedtest to verify it, but my suspicion in your case is that there is probably no issue. Even a few months back, I already foresaw when MikroTik did the stable release of v7 that there would be many people popping up to say that there was some major issue because their router was slower than before, but that most of those would be noise and non-issues because of the route caching removal reducing speedtest results. Unfortunately that noise makes it hard to separate the people who are having real issues that they shouldn't be having from the people who are just experiencing the slower speedtest results in v7 due to the route caching change.
Thank's, i will wait for news on ipv6 fasttrack before report any "no issue" related things. As for now i will keep on 6.x because i really need that speed and i don't want buy a new router just for this rsrs
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:14 am

tried bgp with tcp-md5-key with some ciscos - ends up with "%TCP-6-BADAUTH: Invalid MD5 digest from " always.
configuring a new session without md5-key the session gets established just fine...
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:21 am

Hi, Mikrotik Team,

I upgraded one router with 6.49.1 to 7.1 after upgrading internet stopped working and load balancing also stopped working.

Issue is from route side even pppoe connections are up but when try to ping 8.8.8.8 it's not able to ping it. So restored back to 6.49.1

Please update what settings to be updated for load balancing and route side.

Thanks and regards

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Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:21 am

Thank's, i will wait for news on ipv6 fasttrack before report any "no issue" related things. As for now i will keep on 6.x because i really need that speed and i don't want buy a new router just for this rsrs
One thing that you could try that would be a good test in RouterOS v7 only would be to try going into your IPv4 firewall, disabling the fasttrack-connection rule, and see how it impacts your IPv4 speed - it should make it the same as IPv6 with about the same number of firewall rules.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:16 am

Is MLAG stable in version 7.1 for use in data centers?
2 x Switch CRS326-24S+2Q+RM configured with one bridge, multiple ports with different PVID and with several ports configured as tagged?
In my testing with CRS317 and CRS326 it is stable, just make sure you run RouterOS 7.1 or newer.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:13 am

after adding a full ipv4-table to a RB4011iGS the device itself is running fine, but winbox gets disconnected if you try to open the ip/route window.

trying "/routing/route/print count-only where bgp" to get the number of routes learned takes several minutes;
while "/routing/route/print count-only" answers fast and correct with 868297
this first look BGP into behaviour seems not ready for full-tables right now, especially if one wants to debug things in case something goes sideways.

and one cpu core is always into "routing" according to cpu-profiling, we can savely guess it's bgp as when we disable this connection the cpu-usage goes back to near zero.

this high-cpu-usage-situation is in fact bad, one bgp process should never eat one core fulltime.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:16 am

still have checksum warnings on ospf with simple auth
OSPF auth is broken, they have said it will be fixed in the next release.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:26 am

Helo Helo. Multiplication does not work.

Script:
:local voltage [/system health get [find where name="voltage"] value=value];
:put ($voltage*10);

Result:
00:02:07

Result is wrong
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:35 am

The value is not numeric but a string... If you want to do math you have to convert it before.

(You may be interested in my script Notify about health state. See the source for an idea what I do.)
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:53 am

trying to upgrade a CHR, is anyone getting this too?

@MikroTik] /system package update> download
channel: upgrade
installed-version: 6.49.2
latest-version: 7.1
status: calculating download size..

been like this for hours
Same issue here with a RB1100AHx4. Nothing happens....
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:23 am

I have 3 AP hAP ac2 managed via CAPsman on HEXs. After upgrading from 6.49.2 to 7.1 I have a problem. On devices that connect to AP the following message is displayed: Connected. Internet connection is unavailable. Despite this message, there is no internet connection on some devices on others. They connect to the same AP. Worse still, there are problems with devices connected by cable. Some have access to the Internet, others do not. They all correctly receive their settings from DHCP. When I go back to 6.49.2 everything works as it should. I just need to upload the settings backup file to hEXs.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:46 am

I have 3 AP hAP ac2 managed via CAPsman on HEXs. After upgrading from 6.49.2 to 7.1 I have a problem. On devices that connect to AP the following message is displayed: Connected. Internet connection is unavailable. Despite this message, there is no internet connection on some devices on others. They connect to the same AP. Worse still, there are problems with devices connected by cable. Some have access to the Internet, others do not. They all correctly receive their settings from DHCP. When I go back to 6.49.2 everything works as it should. I just need to upload the settings backup file to hEXs.
Best to create a separate post with export of your config.
I have capsman running under 7.1 without problem. Most likely it is something config related which changed from 6.49.2 to 7.1.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:10 am

The new CRS9015 running V7.1 is excellent ;)
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:29 am

Version information showing 7.1 (testing)
Yes it does. Even if its stable.
Have you read the forum, you would have seen why.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:32 am

Helo Helo. Multiplication does not work.
This works for me:
{
local volt [/system health get voltage]
:put ($volt/10)
}

or 
:put ([/system health get voltage]/10)
I need to devide voltage by 10, not multiply in Splunk for Mikrotik to graph voltage. See link in signature.

Edit.

I do see that this does not work in 7.1 on my SXT 5HPnD r2 even if Winbox shows voltage

Edit 2

Mikrotik does not work with decimal numbers, so you can not use :tonum with values like 24.2.
Will investigate
Info from Mikrotik: viewtopic.php?p=118476#p118476
:put [/system health get [find where name="voltage"] value=value]
12.2
So here solution is to remove the . and then divide by 10 outside Mikrotik.

Edit 3

Here is how I fixed it i a new version of script that would work bot with 6.x and 7.x
do={
	:do {
		# New version
		:foreach id in=[/system health find] do={
			:local health "$[/system health get $id]"
			:set ( "$health"->"script" ) "health"
			:log info message="$health"
		}
	} on-error={
		# Old version
		:if (!([/system health get]~"(state=disabled|^\$)")) do={
			:local health "$[/system health get]"
			:set ( "$health"->"script" ) "health"
			:log info message="$health"
		}
	}
}
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:42 am

Didn't you read any of posts in this thread? The only way of installing ROSv7 on de-bundled ROSv6 hAP ac2 is netinstall.
I did, but obviously not all :)
Thank you for hint, I will try netinstall tonight...
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:47 am

After upgrade from long-term (probably was 6.47.10) to 7.1 - PIM config was cleared. Seems to be no conversion occurred, PIM is empty after upgrade.
Update: downgraded to 6.48.6 - PIM config in place.
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:51 am

Didn't you read any of posts in this thread? The only way of installing ROSv7 on de-bundled ROSv6 hAP ac2 is netinstall.
I did, but obviously not all :).
You could at least have opened the topic and do a Ctrl-F search for "hAP ac2"... it is mentioned several times already.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:52 am

Same Problem here. CCR1009 with Capsman "on" crash and reboot in loop without logging any Problem.

Confirm on CCR2004
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:53 am

check your routes...
I'm sick of reposting this link everywhere
viewtopic.php?t=177800#p874200
I have the same settings as your attachment.
All the connections mark as invalid and if i have the next rules in fw, all traffic drops to "forward drop invalid" rule.
add action=accept chain=forward comment=\
    "Forward accept established, related connections" connection-state=\
    established,related
add action=drop chain=forward comment="Forward  drop invalid connections" \
    connection-state=invalid
add action=accept chain=forward comment="Forward accept ICMP" protocol=icmpv6
add action=drop chain=forward comment="Forward drop all not from LAN" \
I i disable the drop invalid rule then, icmp traffic work perfect, but all others packets drop to "all not from lan' rule.
All above conf work perfect in ros 6.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:02 pm

I didn't post any settings. The screenshots are obviously from the non-working scenario, read what I wrote there.
Also what Quasar wrote above: viewtopic.php?t=180831&start=300#p896048
Post your routes too.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:51 pm

trying to upgrade a CHR, is anyone getting this too?

@MikroTik] /system package update> download
channel: upgrade
installed-version: 6.49.2
latest-version: 7.1
status: calculating download size..

been like this for hours
Same issue here with a RB1100AHx4. Nothing happens....
Anyone else having these issues - and possibly a resolution? I have created a support ticket, but no response yet. Would like to upgrade, but it is impossible....
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:55 pm

I didn't post any settings. The screenshots are obviously from the non-working scenario, read what I wrote there.
Also what Quasar wrote above: viewtopic.php?t=180831&start=300#p896048
Post your routes too.
Flags: D - DYNAMIC; A - ACTIVE; c, d, v, y - COPY
Columns: DST-ADDRESS, GATEWAY, DISTANCE
DST-ADDRESS GATEWAY DISTANCE
DAv ::/0 pppoe-out1 1
DAd 2a02:587:1917:e200::/56 1
DAc 2a02:587:1917:e200::/64 bridge1 0
DAc fe80::%ether1/64 ether1 0
DAc fe80::%bridge1/64 bridge1 0
DAc fe80::%pppoe-out1/64 pppoe-out1 0
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:22 pm

Anyone else having these issues - and possibly a resolution? I have created a support ticket, but no response yet. Would like to upgrade, but it is impossible....
I do see many post here about this, that you can download the package and copy it to files and reboot.
Have your tried that?

Example this post:
viewtopic.php?t=181021
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:24 pm

@denisun I see nothing wrong in the bits and pieces provided.
Enable logging on that invalid fw rule and try to figure out why those packets are considered invalid.
Is bridge1 still in LAN interfaces list?
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:41 pm

Hello Team,
After upgrading to RouterOs7, IPv6 Firewall Tracking is not working anymore.
In other words, the IPv6 Firewall is not statefull anymore. All return traffic is dropped because there is no session existing.
I dis/enabled IPv6, IPv6 Forwarding but without success. Any Idea?
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:42 pm

NTP webfig UI seems broken, it doesn't display servers, and edits are not applied. 7.1/CCR2004

The release also still says "testing", I assume since it was not rebuilt.
Can confirm both on hAP ac2 migrated from v6.49.1
Zrzut ekranu 2021-12-8 o 12.40.58.png
Actual configuration is present:
Zrzut ekranu 2021-12-8 o 12.47.48.png
Also routes configuration doesn't work in WebFig:
Zrzut ekranu 2021-12-8 o 12.41.54.png
From terminal:
Zrzut ekranu 2021-12-8 o 12.49.02.png
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:47 pm

@denisun I see nothing wrong in the bits and pieces provided.
Enable logging on that invalid fw rule and try to figure out why those packets are considered invalid.
Is bridge1 still in LAN interfaces list?
bridge1 include all ethers except the ether1 in which is connected the modem (bridge mode).
When logs in drop invalid con is enable i have this:
2021-12-06 23:08:18 XXXXX firewall,info forward: in:pppoe-out1 out:bridge1, src-mac 00:c1:64:XXXXXXX, proto TCP (SYN,ACK), [2606:2800:133:f17:19e8:2356:251b:2a9]:443->[2a02:587:1917:4000:ecbc:51d3:4e66:df7a]:25139, len 32
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:49 pm

PDF information: https://mt.lv/RouterOSv7

Video in Spanish: https://youtu.be/fzLxTl6VXRI
Video in English: https://youtu.be/Zp-U7Anv5-0
Video in Russian: https://youtu.be/xRGBbXJc1xA
The video missed the most important point......................
Where do I get that Unicorn MuG!!
Normis email me to get my physical address for mug package!

On a serious note.
community filtering addressing???
zerotier (sdwan) for the home....... what will it allow me to do??
Yes, where is das mug link?!?
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:56 pm

@denisun, I've asked if your bridge, "bridge1" is in LAN interfaces list.
/interface/list/member/print 
Columns: LIST, INTERFACE
# LIST  INTERFACE 
0 LAN   bridge    
1 WAN   pppoe-wan1
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:46 pm

I have 2-two CRS112-8P-4S-IN in production, one 120 kms away, the other 2500 kms away. Yesterday I upgraded several Routerboards to version 7.1 with no trouble, but when I upgraded one of the switches it did not come back up again!

Luckily it was the closest, but I have to go to the installation and manually reset the power and maybe downgrade the switch to 6.49.2 on which it runs fine.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:53 pm

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
No, I would not dare to do such an upgrade on a remote device! At least I would first make sure there is someone available near the device to do things like powercycling and preferable also able to recover it using netinstall.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:21 pm

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
If there are no need for function from 7.1 do not upgrade yet.
When upgrade, do it on a 100% equal unit with same configuration and same RouterOS as the remote.
If that goes well, it may be that you can upgrade the remote device.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:40 pm

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
If there are no need for function from 7.1 do not upgrade yet.
When upgrade, do it on a 100% equal unit with same configuration and same RouterOS as the remote.
If that goes well, it may be that you can upgrade the remote device.
I totally agree with Jotne: do NOT upgrade on business critical systems yet!
And make sure you have physical access to the devices you want to upgrade to 7.1 to be prepaired to downgrade via netinstall, if nessesary.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:43 pm

Oh boy, some totally useless replies.
Of course I learnt the lesson, that was not my point!
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:45 pm

Ahh, MikroTik cleans up the DOWNLOAD section :-)
It´s now separeted between ROS V6 and ROS V7.
Makes it more clear!!
@MikroTik: one remark: in the device lists over the chip section the RB5009 is still missing at ARM64 ;-)
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:46 pm

7.1rc7 version is newer than final 7.1?
or iclude all changes in 7.1 from rc7?
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:50 pm

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
No, I would not dare to do such an upgrade on a remote device! At least I would first make sure there is someone available near the device to do things like powercycling and preferable also able to recover it using netinstall.
Remote devices need to be upgraded too at some point and it is not always possible to have someone on site to hard reset or even netinstall. I'm sure there are many, many of us who manage remote Mikrotik devices (especially in home & soho environment) on behalf of dumb users on the other side. In such cases it could be a nightmare if the upgrade fails catastrophically. Hopefully reliability of upgrades will continue to be improved..
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:00 pm

So you also use Windows Insider and complain to Microsoft when your PC crashes?
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:10 pm

@denisun, I've asked if your bridge, "bridge1" is in LAN interfaces list.
/interface/list/member/print 
Columns: LIST, INTERFACE
# LIST  INTERFACE 
0 LAN   bridge    
1 WAN   pppoe-wan1
Hi @Znevna .
No i have not use any interface list.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:13 pm

So how do you expect your firewall to function properly?
You have two rules that use the LAN interface list
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop everything else not coming from LAN" in-interface-list=!LAN
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop everything else not coming from LAN" in-interface-list=!LAN
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:25 pm

Anyone else having these issues - and possibly a resolution? I have created a support ticket, but no response yet. Would like to upgrade, but it is impossible....
I do see many post here about this, that you can download the package and copy it to files and reboot.
Have your tried that?

Example this post:
viewtopic.php?t=181021
Will do this evening. Was worried that the reason for this state is connected to an issue with my HW not permitting (supporting) upgrade....
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:31 pm

So how do you expect your firewall to function properly?
You have two rules that use the LAN interface list
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop everything else not coming from LAN" in-interface-list=!LAN
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop everything else not coming from LAN" in-interface-list=!LAN
Where is this post?
Its not mine.
This is my complete rules in fw filter in ipv6:
/ipv6 firewall filter
add action=accept chain=input comment=\
    "Input accept established, related connections" connection-state=\
    established,related
add action=drop chain=input comment="Input drop invalid connections" \
    connection-state=invalid
add action=accept chain=input comment="Input accept ICMP" protocol=icmpv6
add action=accept chain=input comment="Input accept DHCPv6 client" dst-port=\
    546 protocol=udp
add action=drop chain=input comment="Input drop all not from LAN" \
    in-interface=pppoe-out1
add action=accept chain=forward comment=\
    "Forward accept established, related connections" connection-state=\
    established,related
add action=drop chain=forward comment="Forward  drop invalid connections" \
    connection-state=invalid
add action=accept chain=forward comment="Forward accept ICMP" protocol=icmpv6
add action=drop chain=forward comment="Drop no forward IP" dst-address-list=\
    NoForwardIP out-interface=pppoe-out1
add action=drop chain=forward comment="Forward drop all not from LAN" \
    in-interface=pppoe-out1
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:34 pm

Tried on a W60g link - the 60G link is established, but IP-traffic over it is not working. Not ready much for anything it seems.
Edit: It seems that it was putting the station interface to a wrong bridge after upgrade and changing it did bring the IP-traffic up and working for that link.

Note: Make RoMon transfer files as well, that at least it will make it good for bringing firmware files over the non-ip trunk.
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:45 pm

This is my complete rules in fw filter in ipv6:
First try it with the default firewall rules without your own "improvements".
 
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can't input text in this column
That is correct. You need to create new routing tables under the routing->table menu now.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:55 pm

Mikrotik says that 7.1 is stable release. Mikrotik labels 7.1 as testing in print command or WinBox.
https://i.ibb.co/6gg3tnn/image-2021-12-08-214324.png

Mikrotik please reply to this. Thank you.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:55 pm

This is my complete rules in fw filter in ipv6:
First try it with the default firewall rules without your own "improvements".
Could you post the default rules?
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:03 pm

Check the default configuration script
/system/default-configuration/print
So many problems in v7 that are just user errors, but no, "v7 is bad!!11 v6 worked fine!!11"
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:09 pm

Whay CPU Blank?
Because this stable release needs some public testing. I guess Mikrotik does only some kind of smoke tests. Can't expect to catch all cosmetic issues.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:59 pm

How can my client (hotel, reception) use User manager as he used to?
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:04 pm

...
3. ipv6 > fw > cvonnections
is empty with none connections
4. ipv6 > fw > filter rules
i have accept established/related connections and after that
i have drop invalid.
With above setup, all connections drop as invalid (tcp syn,ack,syn/ack, udp).
The above setup work perfect in 6.x editions.
I have same issue with ipv6 on hAP AC after upgrade. No connections, filter rules with established/related filter doesn't work. It looks like connection tracking doesn't work properly.
I have also a hap ac² with same issue
One year ROS7 Beta and then such obviously fail
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:05 pm

OpenVPN is still useless without more secure auth methods, like SHA256. Most VPN providers use this auth method in their ovpn configurations, any chance that it will be added anytime soon?
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:05 pm

Tried this version on my wAP AC and hAP AC. On both I have problem with 5Ghz WiFi in direction from client to router. Receiving fine, but transmitting braking, stops. Tried different devices, LAN and WAN destination - same result.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:21 pm

Check the default configuration script
/system/default-configuration/print
So many problems in v7 that are just user errors, but no, "v7 is bad!!11 v6 worked fine!!11"
i have exactly the same problem even the default conf.
All traffic in ipv6 forward go to drop invalid.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:31 pm

Possibly I saw the same... That would explain why ipv6 NAT did not work.
I did not diagnose further because of broken ipv6 inside Wireguard tunnel.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:36 pm

You should get full speed when they finally add fasttrack for IPv6 in RouterOS v7 - I'm sure this is in the pipeline.
Last "official" info was that IPv6 fast track is in the backlog but not yet on the roadmap.

See initial posting in this thread: viewtopic.php?t=175513
If you think this feature should be prioritized, please raise your voice there to increase visibility.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:41 pm

All traffic in ipv6 forward go to drop invalid.
It works fine here! Are you sure your interface lists (LAN, WAN) are correct?
Maybe it is better that you reset the entire router to default, when you don't have a lot of special config in there this is much easier.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:51 pm

All traffic in ipv6 forward go to drop invalid.
It works fine here! Are you sure your interface lists (LAN, WAN) are correct?
Maybe it is better that you reset the entire router to default, when you don't have a lot of special config in there this is much easier.
i use it with and without interface list.
Without interface list i set as lan the bridge and as wan the pppoe connection.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:04 pm

i disable all rules in filter and raw
and i stay only with accept established/related in forward
and drop invalid.
Even if i have only this two rules, all connections go to drop as invalid
and nothing catch in accept.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:14 pm

use /export file=name show-sensitive, download the file, reset router to defaults, setup router with quickset (choose PPPoE there), now verify that everything is working OK.
Now use the downloaded file AS A GUIDE to know what else you NEED to put back. Do NOT blindly put everything back, only what you NEED.
(e.g. port forward, WiFi SSID and password)
That will solve the problem. Now whenever you make "improvements", test them and be prepared to change them back.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:39 pm

Helo Helo. Multiplication does not work.

Script:
:local voltage [/system health get [find where name="voltage"] value=value];
:put ($voltage*10);

Result:
00:02:07

Result is wrong
i did it like this
:local voltage [/system health get [find where name="voltage"] value=value];
:local volArr [:find $voltage "."];
:local volNum $voltage;

   :if ([:len $volArr] > 0) do={ :set volNum [:tonum "$([:pick $voltage 0 $volArr])$([:pick $voltage 1 $volArr])"]; } else={ :set volNum [:tonum "$($volNum)0"]; }

:put $volNum;
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:45 pm

After upgrading to 7.1, OSPF doesn't install routes in VRF-routing table.
OSPF LSA are accpted, but routing table is not populated.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:52 pm

It is not VTI. It is not DMVPN. But it is not Cisco, the inventor of those proprietary protocols.
VTI supported on plenty of platforms and operating systems, not just Cisco. It is too widespread to find justifications for not implementing it.

And I wrote not "DMVPN", but "kind of DMVPN", which differs ;-) And it's not proprietary. Yes, DMVPN invented Cisco, but protocol itself is open.

Thank you.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:57 pm

I believe VTI was not present in the Linux kernel that RouterOS v6 used, but it should be in the kernel that RouterOS v7 uses, so theoretically it shouldn't be much harder to implement than Wireguard. Probably they did not want to implement it right away to prevent the ipsec code from diverging between v6 and v7 to make backporting or forward-porting easier, until 7 was stable enough.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:19 pm

Is anybody else seeing their link dropping with SFP+ interfaces on a CRS328-24P-4S+? Every SFP+ I have is showing link down/up events sporadically. These did not occur prior to update. I cleaned/reinstalled SFPs, but the behavior is the same. FS SFP-10GLR-31 for the SFP+s.
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Uplink:
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sfpplus2:
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4 is the same, so no need for another SS.

Link status:
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SUP-68278 in for the link flapping, it's affecting all SFP+s on the switch, which are connected to various other devices/SFPs.
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:33 pm

Hello guys,

Upgraded to v7.1 a while ago and I'm still struggling to run the recursive fail-over configuration I was using. It's just stating Invalid on multiple rules and refuses to work. Are recursive routes working on v7 at all?
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:47 pm

i found the problem with ipv6 connections and drop packets in mangle rules.
If i have any packet mark to post routing, the connections drop as invalid.
If i disable the packet marks, all work perfect: no drop packet and connections tabs show the connections.
But without packet mangle i cant have qos in ipv6.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:34 pm

Seems there are too many bugs that needs to be baked to have a solid stable release!. I am happy that Mikrotik is finally doing the big push here for RouterOS v7 but needs to polish all these issues that everyone is reporting in this forum
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:47 pm

7.2 must release very soon...
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:08 pm

After upgrading my RB4011 home router, SSH sessions to remote servers don't work. To make them work again, I have to set on the SSH client another IPQoS (e.g. cs1). Is it normal?
I have a ticket open regarding this: SUP-63430
Support is saying they cannot reproduce it.
Support was finally able to reproduce this and I think we have found the problem. I believe there may be a fix soon.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:09 pm

In short to ROS 7.1 from my playground:
- Webfig via HTTPS - click Graphics -> still 404 (via unsecured HTTP works...)
- Routing>Filters - no dynamic-in (and others) chain(s), for eg. to check gateway by ping, as it's working OK in ROS 6.x
- why on on official website download section the RB5009 is still not listed under ARM64 arch?...
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:13 pm

you have a download button for router os on the rb5009 product page. points to 6.49.2 though.
 
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:16 pm

you have a download button for router os on the rb5009 product page. points to 6.49.2 though.
oh, come on...
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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:31 pm

Going back to 6.49.2
  • Setting a route on a L2TP connection puts the router into a boot loop
  • IPV6 advertisement does not work correctly
  • Router tries to get an IP (v4) from it's own DHCP server regardless it has an IP on that interface and DHCP Client is off.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:23 am



Totally agree, V7 need to be go forward as it has lots of new features, Normis but I don't have backup now, as updated to 7.1 and LTE stop working. :)
LTE works fine in v7, please make a separate post or contact support via our portal

LTE has been super stable IMO. It's worth mention that if you're using a 4G modem with PPP/"ppp-out" under V6, then upgrading to V7 may be worth trying. The PPP mode in V6 is limited to ~25Mb/s, so if your modem supports "MBIM" or "ECM" (most "4G modems" do) and your carrier faster than than 25Mbs, V7 would get you an instant speed boast with LTE.

Since we've been, waiting, testing, and using the V7 LTE support for a long while, I wrote up a "cheat sheet" for 3rd party modems under V7. Maybe that helps folks struggling with LTE under V7 – in my experience it has mostly "just worked":
viewtopic.php?t=178312#p896342
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:26 am

Support was finally able to reproduce this and I think we have found the problem. I believe there may be a fix soon.
That would be great! Maybe it fixes my problem as well! (I would need to find a manageble gbit switch to debug it further - to have a mirror port external to the router)
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:27 am

is ZeroTier going to be available on MMIPS devices such as the heX 750g3r? so far i´ve only seen the ARM devices to be suported
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:27 am

Winbox Crash after remove bridge port columns on DHCP Lease window
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:39 am

I do not recommend using RouterOS7. I tried upgrading different devices 4011, 3011, 1009, 2004 and only the last one was able to work at all with lots of udp problems! And 2004 doesn't work on RouterOS6 at all. If you want to experiment, be sure to backup and physically access the device, some of them not only worked unstably, but required a complete reset. There is a problem with NTP client, vrrp, UDP working terreble, L2TP client, no documentation at all. Things moving to new places, routing table for examle.
If you go to the device and do not see the configuration - this is usually when you upgrade to 7, sometimes the entire configuration is lost, sometimes a random part.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:42 am

poirus, what are you talking about? what problems? what does it mean "udp is terrible"? make specific report about each issue, show us the config and the exact results.
there is plenty of documentation http://help.mikrotik.com/docs/

and new features is not a "problem" :D
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:45 am

7.1rc7 version is newer than final 7.1?
or iclude all changes in 7.1 from rc7?
7.1 is newer, it includes everyting that was in rc7
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:51 am

I upgrade my RouterBOARD 750G r3 seams to work everything except captive portal which dosn't show up on the guest network. Maybe i just reconfigure it.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:28 am

After upgrading to 7.1 in multiple devices (CRS, Audience, cAP) I can not longer disable some services.

Under System -> Packages, I was previously able to disable things like IPv6, MPLS, WireGuard, Routing, PPP, hotspot, wireless etc

In all systems that have been upgraded to 7.1 under System -> Packages there is now only the routeros version 7.1 package and no longer I can disable separate packages.

So how do I disable/remove unwanted features in 7.1? The systems in question have less free memory than what they used to with 6.49.2 and I am suspecting that loading all the extra packages has to do with this issue. Any ideas how to fix it please?
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:30 am

If you don't use a feature, it is not consuming resources. Disabling packages did not help before either.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:42 am

So, I've tried to update my RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN yesterday, and this is a summary of me upgrading all day;
  • System -> Packages -> Check For Updates -> Channel: Upgrade -> results in forever "calculating download size.."
  • Downloaded "routeros-7.1-arm.npk" -> Uploaded to Files -> rebooted
  • Reboot (with upgrade) went fast -> within 30 seconds the router was online
  • Problems I wasn't able to fix:
    • CAP and CAPsMAN was in flapping state, with this in the Log:
      • "CAP sent max keepalives without response"
      • "CAP disconnected from router01 (::ffff:10.30.0.1:5246)"
      • directly followed by "CAP connected to router01 (::ffff:10.30.0.1:5246), CommonName 'CAPsMAN-C4AD34XXYYZZ"
      • "removing stale connection [::ffff:10.30.0.1:34689,Run,[C4:AD:34:XX:YY:ZZ]] because of ident conflict with [::ffff:10.30.0.1:34428,Join,[C4:AD:34:XX:YY:ZZ]]"
      • routerosv7_log_caps.png
    • BGP was broken, with this in the Log "Write to bgp failed (9) { #buf=10 max=64 sk=Socket{ -1[0] } }"
    • routerosv7_log_bgp.png
    • Routing -> BGP -> Peer Cache -> that overview lacks on useful data (number of prefixes, uptime, state (not only a "E"), holdtime, etc.
    • Apparently BFD isn't implemented/working at all, despite the fact that the option/checkbox is available in the WebFig and CLI -> any ideas when this will be ready?
    • Incomplete useless log entries, only containing "by <user>"
    • routerosv7_log_incomplete.png
    • no possibility to change "listening interface" or "listening address"
  • Downloaded "routeros-arm-6.49.2.npk" -> Uploaded to Files -> rebooted
  • CAP and CAPsMAN remains in flapping state...
  • Decided to perform a factory reset, but this time with v7.1
  • Uploaded "routeros-7.1-arm.npk" to Files -> rebooted
  • System -> Reset Configuration -> all checkbox off, except "No Default Configuration"
  • Created a *semi*-working router -> CAPsMAN was working again, BGP was also working-ish, without BFD but I could live with that (for a while).
  • Waking up this morning, no WiFi... According to my NMS; crashed at 6:10 (CEST), with again, *ALL* the problems described above (BGP, CAPsMAN)
Probably spending the rest of the again on downgrading, factory resetting and building a new configuration.

Somehow I hoped this "public release" (stable, huh?) wasn't another "test version". Which is by the way, still showing in the WebFig "RouterOS v7.1 (testing)"
routerosv7_header_version.png
I'm happy to test new beta versions, but I'm heavily in doubt whether or not this should have been released as "stable"
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:45 am

RouterOS v7 born died. Because kernel 5.6 it's EOL [1]

Mikrotik should change the kernel to a longterm kernel, like 5.10. And as I read it relies on 5.6.3 while the last version it's 5.6.19.

[1] https://9to5linux.com/linux-kernel-5-6- ... el-5-7-now
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:59 am

Mikrotik releases to the market a product with an outdated kernel. The RouterOS v7.1 is still in the testing phase. When v7 will be really stable the kernel will be ancient. And the cycle will repeat for RouterOS v8. It will take 10 years to complete it, by the time v8 will be stable the kernel will be ancient.
Mikrotik is forcing us to consider other vendors! :(
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:16 am

so is 7.1 stable or not ?
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:18 am

Mikrotik releases to the market a product with an outdated kernel. The RouterOS v7.1 is still in the testing phase. When v7 will be really stable the kernel will be ancient. And the cycle will repeat for RouterOS v8. It will take 10 years to complete it, by the time v8 will be stable the kernel will be ancient.
Mikrotik is forcing us to consider other vendors! :(
You could change to Checkpoint with their 2.6 or 3.10 kernel...
Really...
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:28 am

You should understand that MikroTik does not use the standard kernel but applies a lot of patches (changes) to it.
That is why it is not so easy for them to "just upgrade to the recent kernel". They spent a lot of work over the past year(s) to apply the patches to the kernel
they have now, and "please use a newer kernel" will set back the v7 release another year.
(ok maybe not so much, because of course a lot of work done on patching the 5.x kernel can still be used in a higher version because the differences are less than with the previous kernel from RouterOS v6)
It is not the same as in your home PC where you are running a standard distribution kernel and can "just" update it when you like.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:41 am

You should understand that MikroTik does not use the standard kernel but applies a lot of patches (changes) to it.
That is why it is not so easy for them to "just upgrade to the recent kernel". They spent a lot of work over the past year(s) to apply the patches to the kernel
they have now, and "please use a newer kernel" will set back the v7 release another year.
(ok maybe not so much, because of course a lot of work done on patching the 5.x kernel can still be used in a higher version because the differences are less than with the previous kernel from RouterOS v6)
It is not the same as in your home PC where you are running a standard distribution kernel and can "just" update it when you like.
Came here to say this. Lot's of enterprise appliances runs on custom (older) kernels, no problems there. Especially if that kernel is downsized to the bare minimum, which results in a lower attack vector.

What we really want is a stable OS ;)
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:51 am

So, I've tried to update my RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN yesterday, and this is a summary of me upgrading all day;
really?
A few months on the RC version and now on 7.1. No problem. Problem is in configuration.
[admin@hEX S] > caps-man/radio/print detail 
Flags: L - local; P - provisioned 
 0  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac - kuchyn" interface=c2-cAP ac - kuchyn-1 
 1  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac - kuchyn" interface=c5-cAP ac - kuchyn-1 
 2  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac - obyvak" interface=c2-cAP ac - obyvak-1 
 3  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac - obyvak" interface=c5-cAP ac - obyvak-1 
 4  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="hAP lite" interface=c2-hAP lite-1 
 5  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac" interface=c2-cAP ac-1 
 6  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac" interface=c5-cAP ac-1 

[admin@hEX S] > caps-man/remote-cap/print detail 
 0 state="Run" name="[XX]" radios=2 address=x.x.x.x/50930 board="RBcAPGi-5acD2nD" version="7.1" identity="cAP ac - kuchyn" 
 1 state="Run" name="[XX]" radios=2 address=x.x.x.x/45591 board="RBcAPGi-5acD2nD" version="7.1" identity="cAP ac - obyvak" 
 2 state="Run" name="[XX]" radios=1 address=x.x.x.x/47335 board="RB941-2nD" version="6.49" identity="hAP lite" 
 3 state="Run" name="[XX]" radios=2 address=x.x.x.x/38077 board="RBcAPGi-5acD2nD" version="6.49" identity="cAP ac" 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:58 am

So, I've tried to update my RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN yesterday, and this is a summary of me upgrading all day;
[*]BGP was broken, with this in the Log "Write to bgp failed (9) { #buf=10 max=64 sk=Socket{ -1[0] } }"
This is caused by the setting of "local address" in the connection, where in v6 an interface name was allowed and now it requires an IP address.
In v7.1 it is claimed to be fixed, but for me it still does not work correctly on interface that aren't always up (tunnels).

I agree with you that there are still lots of problem, especially in BGP. It's logging sucks. Some features do not work. The overview of
its connection state is incomplete and partially not working.
Not ready for prime-time!

Still I am running it on my home router to keep track of problems and report them here. I hope it results in improvements.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:02 pm

You should understand that MikroTik does not use the standard kernel but applies a lot of patches (changes) to it.
That is why it is not so easy for them to "just upgrade to the recent kernel". They spent a lot of work over the past year(s) to apply the patches to the kernel
they have now, and "please use a newer kernel" will set back the v7 release another year.
(ok maybe not so much, because of course a lot of work done on patching the 5.x kernel can still be used in a higher version because the differences are less than with the previous kernel from RouterOS v6)
It is not the same as in your home PC where you are running a standard distribution kernel and can "just" update it when you like.
I think that's a thing of the past. Remember that RoS 7.0.x moved from kernel 5.x (I think it was 5.3) to 5.6? Things are much easier now - I think Mikrotik got rid of 90%* of the inhouse kernel patches.

* 95% of the cited statistics are made up on the spot.
 
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Mikrotik can outsource the work on the kernel and they focus on theirs (Mikrotik) part of the product. Somebody else can work on the kernel, so Mikrotik will have more resources to work with.
The new kernel had useful features but Mkt stuck with the old one, so their products couldn't have the features which customers wanted.
Too much time Mkt spends on backporting bug fixes to an old kernel. By the time a new Mkt OS is published, Mkt has to invest a LOT of time into adapting to the newer kernel.From one smaller kernel release to the next are very few changes - or even none for networking. But in major releases in several years of development of the kernel, Mkt has to put in a lot of unnecessary time to align their software to newer kernel.
To whom Mkt can outsource work on kernel? Perhaps Linux kernel developers? Don't waste time on backport and caching up. Invest that time to develop Mkt solutions.

I would love to hear Mkt's reply on this.
 
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... moved from kernel 5.x (I think it was 5.3) to 5.6? ...
No, linux was upgraded from 3.3 to 5.6...
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:21 pm

So, I've tried to update my RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN yesterday, and this is a summary of me upgrading all day;
really?
A few months on the RC version and now on 7.1. No problem. Problem is in configuration.
[admin@hEX S] > caps-man/radio/print detail 
Flags: L - local; P - provisioned 
 0  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac - kuchyn" interface=c2-cAP ac - kuchyn-1 
 1  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac - kuchyn" interface=c5-cAP ac - kuchyn-1 
 2  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac - obyvak" interface=c2-cAP ac - obyvak-1 
 3  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac - obyvak" interface=c5-cAP ac - obyvak-1 
 4  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="hAP lite" interface=c2-hAP lite-1 
 5  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac" interface=c2-cAP ac-1 
 6  P radio-mac=XX remote-cap-name="[XX]" remote-cap-identity="cAP ac" interface=c5-cAP ac-1 

[admin@hEX S] > caps-man/remote-cap/print detail 
 0 state="Run" name="[XX]" radios=2 address=x.x.x.x/50930 board="RBcAPGi-5acD2nD" version="7.1" identity="cAP ac - kuchyn" 
 1 state="Run" name="[XX]" radios=2 address=x.x.x.x/45591 board="RBcAPGi-5acD2nD" version="7.1" identity="cAP ac - obyvak" 
 2 state="Run" name="[XX]" radios=1 address=x.x.x.x/47335 board="RB941-2nD" version="6.49" identity="hAP lite" 
 3 state="Run" name="[XX]" radios=2 address=x.x.x.x/38077 board="RBcAPGi-5acD2nD" version="6.49" identity="cAP ac" 
It worked for 12 hours flawless, and all at a sudden it crashes. This is all done with a clean factory reset and build op from scratch config. I can see it's the CAPsMAN itself, crashing.

Like PE1CHL, I'm keeping v7 on my home router, just to test, and hopefully improve over time.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:28 pm

Mikrotik can outsource the work on the kernel and they focus on theirs (Mikrotik) part of the product. Somebody else can work on the kernel, so Mikrotik will have more resources to work with.
The changes of the kernel are the core business of MikroTik.
(ok there is the configuration interface as well, but for the actual features it is like that)
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:30 pm

It worked for 12 hours flawless, and all at a sudden it crashes. This is all done with a clean factory reset and build op from scratch config. I can see it's the CAPsMAN itself, crashing.
Yes it is likely CAPsMAN because I have a RB4011 and a hAP ac2 both running 7.1 without CAPsMAN and I have not seen a single WiFi problem.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:41 pm

RouterOS v7 born died. Because kernel 5.6 it's EOL [1]

Mikrotik should change the kernel to a longterm kernel, like 5.10. And as I read it relies on 5.6.3 while the last version it's 5.6.19.

[1] https://9to5linux.com/linux-kernel-5-6- ... el-5-7-now
kernel 5.6 never was a LTS kernel. These versions between LTS go EOL instantly when the next version goes public. So 5.6 was EOL on the day 5.7 launched. I won't put too much focus on that detail. but not receiving security updates may be a critical thing.

They probably chose to upgrade to 5.6, because it is the first kernel to include wireguard directly. But I agree, they should raise to 5.10 LTS - that has support till end of 2026!
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:50 pm

I wonder if the wireguard sources are up to date or in the state they were at 5.6.3
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:51 pm

We always keep internal code up to date, the kernel version is mostly irrelevant
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:54 pm

OK,

for the moment i'm back to 6.49.2 on the ccr1009 and everthing runs fine ....
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello,
i've got 2 CHR ( v7.1 rc7 ) in 2 different Datacenters ... My ccr1009 ( v6.49.2 ) at home connect via l2tp / eoip tunnel to the devices .... on both chr, wireguard is active for wan access

today i upgraded my ccr and the eoip tunnel is not working :(

l2tp is active / PH2 state establised / eoip ipsec sa installed normally ...
i can ping l2tp addresses, but the eoip tunnel is not running ( it shows running for only around 30s, but no ping possible )

where can i find the prob ? is it ipsec or bridge problem ? any ideas ?

can i get back to 6.49 ? from packages not ... only show 7.1

regards
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:55 pm

[...] But I agree, they should raise to 5.10 LTS - that has support till end of 2026!
... or Linux 5.15, which is a LTS release as well and supported till October 2023 at least.

I think a yearly bump for the next LTS release would make sense in future. IMHO that would be a good compromise between constant change with recent linux release and "ancient" linux that requires a release like RouterOS v7 with its huge changes.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:07 pm

It worked for 12 hours flawless, and all at a sudden it crashes. This is all done with a clean factory reset and build op from scratch config. I can see it's the CAPsMAN itself, crashing.
Yes it is likely CAPsMAN because I have a RB4011 and a hAP ac2 both running 7.1 without CAPsMAN and I have not seen a single WiFi problem.
Current situation; switched off CAPsMAN and configured Wireless by hand, BGP somewhat working, except BGP-redistribution towards a Fortigate (Linux+Bird and a CHR-VM works fine), BFD switched off.

WiFi is stable without the CAPsMAN, but the funny part; it worked with CAPsMAN, and all of sudden it's in a flapping state. Even turning off CAPsMAN, reboot, and turning it on delayed, doesn't work.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:19 pm

to Mikrotik: is it possible to create light main packages to switch from extra v6 packages to v6 / v7 main package? They could only contain the system, dhcp, system, wireless packages. hAP ac2, disk lite5 ac etc. cannot be upgraded to main package remotely due to "system, error not enough space for upgrade"
 
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to Mikrotik: is it possible to create light main packages to switch from extra v6 packages to v6 / v7 main package? They could only contain the system, dhcp, system, wireless packages. hAP ac2, disk lite5 ac etc. cannot be upgraded to main package remotely due to "system, error not enough space for upgrade"
Due to a bug you cannot upgrade from separate packages to single package on some devices. This is not really a lack of space.
You need to netinstall either the v6 combined package or the v7 package and then load your backup.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:12 pm

... moved from kernel 5.x (I think it was 5.3) to 5.6? ...
No, linux was upgraded from 3.3 to 5.6...
Not exactly. Looking through the changelog, we have:
https://mikrotik.com/download/changelog ... lease-tree

7.0beta3 -> Based on Kernel 4.14.131
7.0beta7 -> system kernel has been updated to version 5.6.3;

So, it is possible (now) to upgrade the kernel on a timely manner - these versions were about 8 months apart.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:29 pm

possible yes. But MT should put that to backlog for now.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:30 pm

kalamaja,
look below ....
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:39 pm

Winbox Crash after remove bridge port columns on DHCP Lease window
Had the same problem but then in firewall. I had double entries in the table and as soon I changed one entry and save Winbox crashed.

Best sent a e-mail to support@mikrotik.com or if you have already a account create a support request. You may refer to SUP-60072 that was resolved earlier.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:55 pm

I did a lot of tests on openvpn (udp)
The results are definite.
openvpn udp protocol: (It has many bugs)
max connect time per client ( 1 hours or 01:01:00)
os client: windows , android , ios
all client (ovpn udp) They are disconnect after 61 minutes
After 1 hour and 1 minute openvpn disconnected.
I emphasize that the problems are only in udp protocol.

create ticket in mikrotik support (SUP-57401)
But the Mikrotik support team does not matter
Do you have Graphing active? I had a similar problem with some LACP Bonding fiber connections, which were diconnected every 60 min.
After disableing Graphing the problem has gone.....
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:32 pm

to Mikrotik: is it possible to create light main packages to switch from extra v6 packages to v6 / v7 main package? They could only contain the system, dhcp, system, wireless packages. hAP ac2, disk lite5 ac etc. cannot be upgraded to main package remotely due to "system, error not enough space for upgrade"
Due to a bug you cannot upgrade from separate packages to single package on some devices. This is not really a lack of space.
You need to netinstall either the v6 combined package or the v7 package and then load your backup.
This is news to me. Ironic. How will this help me remotely upgrade hundreds of units?

Although the package is being downloaded to ram, it could upgrade in ram and then force rewrite nand. Disable any safety fuses.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:43 pm

7.1rc7 version is newer than final 7.1?
or iclude all changes in 7.1 from rc7?
7.1 is newer, it includes everyting that was in rc7
Thank you. i can see a version kernel in 7.1?
 
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Due to a bug you cannot upgrade from separate packages to single package on some devices. This is not really a lack of space.
You need to netinstall either the v6 combined package or the v7 package and then load your backup.
This is news to me.
You should read the release topic messages before adding your own findings. It is mentioned several times already.
Ironic. How will this help me remotely upgrade hundreds of units?

Although the package is being downloaded to ram, it could upgrade in ram and then force rewrite nand. Disable any safety fuses.
Hopefully the bug is fixed some time. Note it will have to be fixed in 6.49.3 and then you can update to that, and then update to 7.1.
Indeed it would be nice to have some "remote clean install" option in some cases, but of course it will have to be done carefully or else it will expose another attack possibility.
(similar to what has been the problem with attackers remotely setting the bootloader options)
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:03 pm

Anyone found where Netinstall has gone, it's no longer on the downloads page: https://mikrotik.com/download
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:09 pm

Only the extra menu from the top is gone, it is still available where it always was, in the general section.
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:44 pm

Anyone tried Let's Encrypt with just using their IP/cloud dns? I attempted to do so on my home tik for testing and pulled an error.

certificate/enable-ssl-certificate
progress: [error] err

Tried also:
certificate/enable-ssl-certificate dns-name=[removed4privacy].sn.mynetname.net
progress: [error] err

I have enabled www in services as well as www-ssl and allowed input from port 80 on the firewall. Does anyone know how to access more detailed logs?
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:14 pm

RB750Gr2 gets stuck during upgrade from 6.49.2 at 'calculating download size'. :(
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:21 pm

As many has written before. Download package from MT, copy it to file area of your Router, reboot.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:26 pm

What features or fixes do we actually gain from MT spending cycles on a new kernel update? For a vanilla desktop linux install it makes some sense to keep the kernel updated. In that case you're depending on the kernel maintainers to patch holes and provide new features

But MT spends a fair amount of time customizing the kernel on their hardware. still backporting support for the whole tile architecture for example. We have enjoyed pretty quick responses when a major flaw or exploit appears, the 6.47.10/6.48.3 releases with the fix for 'FragAttacks' and again with some protection from Meris botnet with device flagging in 6.49.1/6.48.6. there are several other CVE fixes in patch notes. 6.46 release for example...

Personally I think they're doing great work to keep the security of their devices in mind. I updated my primary router at home (RB3011) to the 7.1 stable release on 7DEC and have had zero problems because of the update.
I can't speak for all the BGP, MPLS, or IPv6 complaints though. I don't use those features and I'm completely ignorant there...
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:35 pm

I can't made VPLS interface to running "R" state. Configuration from 6.49.2 was not modified. Any ideas?
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:03 pm

the command
/system health get temperature
does not work in v7.1

I used it in my script.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:09 pm

1. After copying an upgrade package with the attribute to arm64 (device is arm only) version, the device tries to install the package and does not do any checking as in versions 6.xx. It ends with a bootloop and must be installed with the correct package via NetInstall, erasing the entire contents of the flash memory ... the backups are gone.

2. After installing the final version 7.1 ARM version on ac2 and ac3 and ac3lte it appears in the window title as version "7.1 testing". When selecting "Packages" and selecting in the menu for the Long term, Stable and Developer versions, the versions cannot be distinguished and the same version is displayed after selecting all three, that is 7.1. It is not possible to downgrade or manually upload the 6.xx file of the npk version of the package to the flash card and restart the router. It ends with a bootloop and the router must be reinstalled with the Netinstall utility.

3. In packagelist missing all packages. I will not enabling IPv6, Capman, etc.

Both issues I tested on routers: ac2, ac3 and ac3LTE6
Tested on ROS version: 7.1 Stable ARM
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:21 pm

3. In packagelist missing all packages. I will not enabling IPv6, Capman, etc.
As it says in the release notes, the "bundle" package has been merged into a single combined package, so you can no longer enable or disable the individual parts. This is by design. You can still disable IPv6 with the "disable IPv6" checkbox in IPv6->Settings.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:25 pm

3. In packagelist missing all packages. I will not enabling IPv6, Capman, etc.
As it says in the release notes, the "bundle" package has been merged into a single combined package, so you can no longer enable or disable the individual parts. This is by design. You can still disable IPv6 with the "disable IPv6" checkbox in IPv6->Settings.
Is there any way I can enable packages? It is not in the menu after a clean installation of IPv6. As well as Capsman, Hotspot, etc.
I must first install the older version 6.xx, enable the required services in it and upgrade to version 7.1. then the packages are available and I can use them.

Is it planned to turn on packages in version 7.1 without having to install an older version?
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:30 pm

What features or fixes do we actually gain from MT spending cycles on a new kernel update?

Most of things are actually done by stock kernel, e.g. many (probably most in v7) device drivers, routing, ... MT addsset of utilities, UI and some drivers - some might be proprietary, but supplied by chip vendors. The reason for sticking to old kernel in v6 was a big change in routing engine in linux kernel version 3.6. Because MT did a very good job at using the old routing engine in most efficient way, and using the new kernel routing engine meant complete rewrite of parts of utilities and UI, MT stayed at older kernels (too long). The complete rewrite is under way for ROS v7 ... it seems to be almost done by now.

As long as new stock kernels don't change ABI too much, MT will be able to upgrade kernel with normal releases of v7 (e.g. I expect to have kernel 5.15 in ROS v7.2) without too much hassle. So I guess we can expect much more streamlined flow of new releases with new and updated functionality (both kernel-based and MT's own extensions) once basic work of upgrading to v7 (kernel 5.x) is finished.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:32 pm

For eXAMPLE on my CAPAC, I couldnt upload the new package (too big) so I removed the wireless package, and then could install 7.1.
 
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the command
/system health get temperature
does not work in v7.1
on my RB4011 running 7.1 stable the following works
:global systemp (([system health print as-value where name~"temp"]->0)->"value")
:put $systemp

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Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:52 pm

What features or fixes do we actually gain from MT spending cycles on a new kernel update? For a vanilla desktop linux install it makes some sense to keep the kernel updated. In that case you're depending on the kernel maintainers to patch holes and provide new features
The main reason for keeping the kernel reasonably up-to-date is to be able to fulfill feature requests from people who have seen interesting features added
to Linux and want to have them in RouterOS as well. E.g. wireguard, VTI, CAKE, CoDel, etc. Things that are not so much work to implement ("only" the management interface has to be done, i.e. the tables for the commands and windows), when you have the correct kernel to support them.
When not, these features can not be implemented easily and we see those topics with 1000 replies with only "+1" in the text, and no progress at all.

When the kernel now again gets a standstill at a fixed version, it is only a matter of time before the next exciting feature appears in Linux and everyone suddenly needs to have it. At that time it would be convenient when the kernel can be updated to the required version.
But how realistic that is depends a lot on the extent of the changes being made, how easy it is to patch a different kernel version with the same changes.
And that, of course, depends on the extent of the extra functionality MikroTik want to provide on top of existing Linux functionality.
In some cases, patches may no longer be required because standard Linux 5.x has included functionality that required patches in Linux 3.x.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:57 pm

Is there any way I can enable packages?
you don't disable or enable packages in v7. what is enabled or disabled in v6 doesn't matter and you're wasting time trying to roll back and enable or disable packages.
as normis stated above memory usage is not affected by features not in use. i.e I might have NTP server available on my home router now (was previously in separate package) but its not consuming any resources unless I set
/system ntp server set enabled=yes
same for ipv6....if you don't want it just set
ipv6 settings set disable-ipv6=yes
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:01 pm

What router specific features from 5.15 kernel do you expect to have that are not in 5.6?
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:03 pm

@pe1chl @anav, thanks for your replies. I appreciate the discussion

if it really is easier for MT to increment kernel version going forward then I'm 100% for it. in a way, it could be viewed as "outsourcing" because the kernel maintainers will be doing some of the work that MT had to do previously with 6.x for security fixes and etc

honestly, I don't think anyone except MT knows the full extent of what they do to modify the kernel.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:07 pm

As many has written before. Download package from MT, copy it to file area of your Router, reboot.
I read many different things and it would be nice if MT give some direction on this? "Device has enough free storage space for all RouterOS packages to be downloaded.", is a bit uninformative.

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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:08 pm

as normis stated above memory usage is not affected by features not in use. i.e I might have NTP server available on my home router now (was previously in separate package) but its not consuming any resources ...

That statement by normis doesn't make much sense ... e.g. the old ntp package (which was part of extra packages) did add some userland apps to the basic install and without those files, disk usage was slightly lower (and that was the whole point of de-bundling of ROS install). If one used the bundle and disabled some package, then what that did was disable UI of that functionality and disable the functionality. With v7 where most packages are part of "bundle", it is not possible to un-occupy disk space. Now one doesn't disable packages, one only disables functionality (but essentially that's the same thing). And by disabling functionality, the resources saved are RAM and (some) CPU cycles.

So previously by not installing ntp from extra packages one saved some precious disk space, some RAM and some CPU cycles. Now if one disables NTP functionality, one saves some RAM and some CPU cycles, but the precious disk space is gone. And disk space, on some devices, is the single most important bottleneck (e.g. hAP ac2) which already prevents us from getting e.g. wifiwave2 drivers, so this aspect should not be easily dismissed.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:14 pm

What router specific features from 5.15 kernel do you expect to have that are not in 5.6?

Possibly none, except from some small bug fixes. But loosely following kernel versions with ROS v7 would make sure that when kernel does offer some crucial functionality, the amount of work needed to be done to fit in ROS will be kept at minimum (because most will be done regularly).

Just as an example: if MT decided to go beyond kernel 3.5.x years ago, then all the heavy utility and UI changes would be done years ago and e.g. wireguard would have been available on mikrotik devices a few years ago.

Similarly for some other features we are waiting for such a long time. So basically saving some developers' months here and there means they have to be spent later ... when things are highly urgent and possibly hurting business. I guess sometimes it's extremely hard to convince bosses and bean counters that penny spent on (on time) development is heaps of bucks saved/earned in due time.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:18 pm

Lets say new protocol "wirelessguard" is added in kernel 6.x years lateer, it doesn't make any difference if we have 5.6 or 5.15 now.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:39 pm

Lets say new protocol "wirelessguard" is added in kernel 6.x years lateer, it doesn't make any difference if we have 5.6 or 5.15 now.
That is correct. But what would make a difference is when MikroTik could limit the number of kernel patches to the absolute minimum, or to
have a streamlined internal procedure to migrate to a new kernel without having to do a lot of manual work again.
When the kernel is updated e.g. twice per year, it does not get so much behind and there is both less chance that people start asking for features "that have been in Linux for a long time" and also it will be less work to make the patches again.
This also applies when new hardware arrives that would be interesting to incorporate in a new device (some new WiFi chip for a new and faster protocol, some new technology like LoRa) and the drivers for it expect an actual version Linux kernel.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:46 pm

Lets say new protocol "wirelessguard" is added in kernel 6.x years lateer, it doesn't make any difference if we have 5.6 or 5.15 now.

No, what I'm saying is that if you upgrade kernel version to some suitably new LTS kernel with every new ROS minor version (e.g. upgrade from 5.6 to 5.15 with 7.2, upgrade to 5.28 with 7.3, upgrade to 5.42 with 7.4 and upgrade to 6.4 with ROS 7.5 ... and do the minor work needed for every new kernel to fit ROS, then wirelessguard would be easily implemented in ROS 7.6 which would require minimum work to adapt for kernel 6.12). If you keep at kernel 5.10 until ROS 7.5, then amount of work needed to be done to fit kernel 6.12 would be much higher, and some bean counter might decide to postpone introduction of wirelessguard to some uncertain future (because there wouldn't be demand high enough to pay the necessary development costs). And things would spiral down the same path they did years ago when MT decided to stick with last kernel supporting the former routing engine.

I'm pretty sure sometimes it takes longer time (and is thus more expensive) to back-port some security or bug fix to older kernel than to perform minor tweaks on current mainstream kernel (which includes the very same fix). And the added functionality in newer mainstream kernel is just a bonus (from MT's point of view), but if MT can capitalize that bonus, it means both additional revenue for MT and happiness for users.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:50 pm

Update to my previous report. My browser probably kept cache of previous page version.

It still doesn't work properly though, NTP client menu in WebFig doesn't show configured nor active servers.
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:59 pm

@mrz, you've prompted me to look through the kernel changelog, I referenced this page: https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges

granted, I have only looked through the prominent features, network, and security sections of each release, and I am not smart enough to understand lot of what they mention. but I'll list the things that look interesting to me here...

I'll be honest, I don't completely understand the majority of the kernel changelogs, but I've copied the parts that I think others here will be interested in.

please, discuss.

in 5.7
Networking

Improve bind(addr, 0) behaviour. Linux used to fail to bind sockets to ephemeral ports when all of the ports were exhausted even if all sockets had SO_REUSEADDR enabled. In this case, it still is possible to connect to the different remote hosts. This release adds the net.ipv4.ip_autobind_reuse, which allows to bind SO_REUSEADDR enabled sockets to the same (addr, port) when set to 1 and all ephemeral

UDP: Bare UDP L3 Encapsulation Module. The Bareudp tunnel module provides a generic L3 encapsulation tunnelling support for tunnelling different L3 protocols like MPLS, IP, NSH etc. inside a UDP tunnel

Packet schedulers
Make FIFO Qdisc offloadable

Introduce connection tracking hardware offload

Add software offload of connections with an established ct state using the NF flow table offload infrastructure, so once such flows are offloaded, they will not pass through conntrack again, and instead act_ct will restore the conntrack info metadata on the skb to the state it had on the offload event - established

Allow user to specify the type of hardware stats for the added TC action: immediate, delayed, or disabled

RED qdisc: Introduce an ECN nodrop mode

Enables tc classification to start from a specified chain. TC multi chain configuration can cause offloaded tc chains to miss in hardware after jumping to some chain, in such cases the software should continue from the chain that was missed in hardware

Expose HW stats types per action used by drivers

Implement callback used for adding HW counters to the SW ones for pedit and skbedit actions

WiFi

Add encapsulation offloading support
...
Add support for Beacon protection
in 5.8

Better behavior in memory thrashing situations

(FEATURED) IPv6: add MPLS support

IPv6: Implement the upcoming rev of RFC4941 (IPv6 temporary addresses)

IPv6: support RFC 6069 (TCP-LD)

Add IPv6 encapsulation support for ESP over UDP and TCP

802.11
Unprotected Beacon frame RX indication

Initial definitions for S1G (802.11ah)

Support bigger kek/kck key length

Support multicast RX registration

Allow SA-QUERY processing in userspace

Implement Operating Mode Notification extended NSS support

Support control port TX status reporting

Add support to configure TID specific Tx rate configuration

Packet scheduler

flow_dissector, cls_flower: Add support for multiple MPLS Label Stack Entries

sch_fq: add horizon attribute
in 5.9
icmp4/6: support RFC 4884

Add stream gate action policing in IEEE802.1Qci (Per-Stream Filtering and Policing) software support and hardware offload support in tc flower

Introduce qevents. Those are attach points for TC blocks, where filters can be put that are executed as the packet hits well-defined points in the qdisc algorithms. The attached blocks can be shared, in a manner similar to clsact ingress and egress blocks, arbitrary classifiers with arbitrary actions can be put on them, etc

sch_cake: add RFC 8622 LE PHB support to CAKE diffserv handling

Add support for Parallel Redundancy Protocol (PRP) - a network protocol standard for Ethernet that provides seamless failover against failure of any network component - in the Linux HSR driver as defined in IEC-62439-3

Support ipip and ipv6 tunnels in vti and xfrmi
in 5.10 (LTS)
Support 6 GHz scanning

Add support for WPA/WPA2-PSK 4-way handshake and SAE offload in AP mode

packet scheduler: Add the necessary TC actions for supporting layer 2 MPLS VPNs (VPLS)
in 5.11
Faster memory leak debugging in ARM

IPv6: Add support for the SRv6 End.DT4 and End.DT6 (VRF mode) behavior. The SRv6 End.DT4 behavior is used to implement multi-tenant IPv4 L3 VPNs. It decapsulates the received packets and performs IPv4 routing lookup in the routing table of the tenant. The SRv6 End.DT4 Linux implementation leverages a VRF device in order to force the routing lookup into the associated routing table. The SRv6 End.DT4 behavior is defined in the SRv6 Network Programming

IP: Add an IPv6/IPv4 route encapsulation attribute to the result of netlink RTM_GETROUTE requests

macvlan: Support for high multicast packet rate

TLS: Add CHACHA20-POLY1305 cipher to Kernel TLS

Add support to calculate and report 4096-QAM HE rates

Remove WDS mode
in 5.12
IPv6: Allow user to set metric on default route learned via Router Advertisement

UDP: allow forwarding of plain (non-fraglisted) UDP GRO packets

RFC 6056 induced changes

IPv4-mapped IPv6 addressing for subflows

Add Extended MCS Phyrate Conversion Support on 60GHz

Add VHT rate entries for MCS-10 and MCS-11
in 5.13
Add support for x509 certs with NIST P384/256/192 keys

UDP: improve UDP L4 - either 'forward' or 'frag_list' - co-existence with UDP tunnel GRO, allowing the first to take place correctly even for encapsulated UDP traffic

Better support for sandwiched LAGs with bridge and DSA

ICMP: Add support for RFC 8335 PROBE messages, a specialized ICMP message that makes use of the ICMP Extension Structure outlined in RFC 4884. It allows querying specific interfaces on a node and requiring bidirectional connectivity between the probing and probed interfaces

macvlan: Add nodst option to macvlan type source to skip destination MACVLAN processing if any matching source MACVLAN device has the option set
in 5.14
Core Scheduling, for safe hyperthreading

Support hidden AP discovery over 6GHz band

Allow bypass of the lockless qdisc to improving performance (for pktgen: +23% with one thread, +44% with 2 threads)

sctp: implement RFC8899: Packetization Layer Path MTU Discovery for SCTP transport
in 5.15 (LTS)
ksmbd, a in-kernel SMB 3 server

Support for asymmetric scheduling affinity

XDP bonding support

Some improvements to generic XDP mode to brings it closer to native XDP
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:26 pm

Update your wAP ac to version 7.1.
I apply version 7.1 (stable), but the router shows (testing). It is not clear why ..
The download is the same as it was but there are problems with the upload. It had to be around 350Mbit whatever it was before the upgrade! Downgrade is not possible. I am very disappointed with the new version! I will not upgrade any equipment on v7.1.
When you run Speedtest, the router disconnects for about 30 seconds after the test. It's not normal. The router is located in the internal network Bridge mode

https://ibb.co/rM18TW0
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:48 pm

When you run Speedtest, the router disconnects for about 30 seconds after the test. It's not normal. The router is located in the internal network Bridge mode
Same on my wAP AC and hAP AC. You can downgrade - just copy firmware file on router's disk ("Files" menu) and select "Downgrade" option in "System / Packages".
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:54 pm

looks like kernel updates are not so unimportant as one could think!!!!
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:00 pm

looks like kernel updates are not so unimportant as one could think!!!!
I'd say every kernel release matters this way or another. Most of changes are invisible because they target small things, obscure bugs, performance enhancements ... and those changes matter regardless what kind of duties are performed by device running kernel. Some things are more prominent, such as addition of new functionality.

As I already wrote: it's bad decission not to upgrade kernel version when there's opportunity just because there's no apparent reason to upgrade.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:11 pm

WildRat,
Thank you very much !!!! I managed to downgrade. Now everything is working normally again as it should be.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:15 pm

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If i can just borrow that picture from another user... In version 6, while adding Route you had a drop down menu to select Gateway. Now in version 7 you must enter it manualy. Is this considered normal behaviour?
 
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3. In packagelist missing all packages. I will not enabling IPv6, Capman, etc.
You can still disable IPv6 with the "disable IPv6" checkbox in IPv6->Settings.
I don't know if this is a bug. But if you disable just IPv6>Settings, you may want/need to disable IPv6 ND as well – that seem unaffected by the first top level one.
/ipv6/settings/set disable-ipv6=yes 
/ipv6/nd/set [find default] disabled=yes
Otherwise, it does seem to try but fail at discovery:
12:16:03 radvd,debug skip Router Advertisement sending on bridge1: no prefixes to send
 12:16:28 radvd,debug skip Router Advertisement sending on zerotier1: no prefixes to send


It don't know if more has to be disabled to accomplish what remove the package did in V6, but those two seem to work – @truefriendcz, I too like the similar ability to just remove/disable the entire codebases I'm not using if possible – in fairness, that may not have been possible with all the routing changes in V7 (likely other reasons, like space optimization).

It's a fair question if "Disable IPv6", includes discovery or just routing... But not as simple/clear as "Disable Package" as in V6.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:46 pm

the command
/system health get temperature
does not work in v7.1

I used it in my script.
Data structures for health changed with RouterOS v7... Try this:
:put [ /system/health/get [ find where name="temperature" ] value ]
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:10 pm

@mrz, you've prompted me to look through the kernel changelog, I referenced this page: https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges

granted, I have only looked through the prominent features, network, and security sections of each release, and I am not smart enough to understand lot of what they mention. but I'll list the things that look interesting to me here...

I'll be honest, I don't completely understand the majority of the kernel changelogs, but I've copied the parts that I think others here will be interested in.

please, discuss.
How about NO. ;)

I actually trust Mikrotik's decision making when it comes to the kernel. The quality of the device driver is likely a way more important factor than kernel version. And, this is what Mikrotik is doing for you over say OpenWRT/Linux – making sure hardware drivers works with the kernel they're using (and in some cases using non-OSS drivers ones if better). Some drivers prefer older kernels as well. What they do is curate all this mess Linux things into one pretty rational config format. If you want involvement in what kernel your devices is using, Mikrotik may not be right for you ;).

The likely bigger problem, and delay for V7, is the hardware driver model changes NOT the kernel per se. Since the driver model ain't changing significantly in 5.x, I'd imagine Mikrotik can patch any change from any kernel  – if was needed to fix a problem. Otherwise, pulling in the kernel "just because" means a lot more testing on the backend since more would have changed. All of this is a tricky balance.

Now their release management decision-making, from a customer POV, gets a poorer assessment.
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:15 pm

WildRat,
Thank you very much !!!! I managed to downgrade. Now everything is working normally again as it should be.
Note that when you have downgraded this way, you cannot upgrade to version 7.x anymore in the future, at least not until the bug is fixed that conversion of configuration is performed only once.
I.e. when in the future you update to version 7 it will use the converted configuration that you made this time.
To work around that, you will have to export the configuration under v6, start from zero with a netinstall of v6 and no configuration, import the exported configuration and only then you can attempt the upgrade again.
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:16 pm

stupid question: Does this include swOS ?
 
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Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:25 pm

stupid question: Does this include swOS ?
I dont believe so, swOS has its own development tree and version numbers, I think the latest release in the 2.x tree for currently supported devices was back in April.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:22 am

Time spent for the back-port can be spent for current-release-port.

Why not go with the update cycle of the kernel? Because once you (Mikrotik) WILL update to some much higher version and that update will consume more resources as you (MT) would update as the update cycle of the kernel.

It is not so much about "new" kernel, it is about time MT spends for backporting and time spent on development of features that newer kernel has, ... Don't lose time because of the old kernel.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:52 am

In addition to my "missing features"-list; advertise prefixes, which aren't "synchronized" or the"route doesn't exists in the routing table"
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:28 am

You can fix it by disabling Add Default Route on DHCPv6 or set DHCPv6 default route distance to >1.
And that is exactly what I did to fix dual stack as well. Default route distance set to 2 and I have IPv6 connectivity again.


Anyone tried Let's Encrypt with just using their IP/cloud dns? I attempted to do so on my home tik for testing and pulled an error.

certificate/enable-ssl-certificate
progress: [error] err

Tried also:
certificate/enable-ssl-certificate dns-name=[removed4privacy].sn.mynetname.net
progress: [error] err

I have enabled www in services as well as www-ssl and allowed input from port 80 on the firewall. Does anyone know how to access more detailed logs?

Confirmed! Cannot get Let's Encrypt certificate as well. Same "progress: [error] err" message in terminal.

It is working, I did nothing so safe to assume this is something on Let's Encrypt's side.

Graphing work only in http mode.
In https i get a "Error 404: Not Found".
In the same time the webfig with https work perfect.
Same thing happening here as well. At least it's fine in WinBox. After the upgrade from v6.49.2 to v7.1 PPPoE out interface graph is lost. But that happened on RouterOS v6 as well. ether1 graph is still there so not everything is lost.
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:59 am

Don't lose time because of the old kernel.
I imagine MT wastes more time asking for add'l details and supout.rif files in support cases – that's something people here can do something about. If there really is some product feature you need & can clearly articulate exactly how some newer kernel update alone makes that feature easier to develop – sure they'd listen. Just saying.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:54 am

Hello,

Recently upgraded my RB1100AHx2 to 7.1 and while checking `/export` differences with 6.49.2 I saw the following in `/interface ethernet`
/interface ethernet
set [ find default-name=ether1 ] arp=disabled name=ether1-lag-to-zyxel-gs1920-48hp speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether2 ] arp=disabled disabled=yes name=ether2-unused speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether3 ] disabled=yes name=ether3-unused speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether4 ] disabled=yes name=ether4-unused speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether5 ] disabled=yes name=ether5-unused speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether6 ] arp=disabled name=ether6-lag-to-zyxel-gs1920-48hp speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether7 ] arp=disabled disabled=yes name=ether7-unused speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether8 ] disabled=yes name=ether8-unused speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether9 ] disabled=yes name=ether9-unused speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether10 ] comment=Unused disabled=yes name=ether10-unused speed=100Mbps
set [ find default-name=ether11 ] advertise=10M-half,10M-full,100M-half,100M-full,1000M-half,1000M-full name=ether11-wan-sunrise
set [ find default-name=ether1 ] advertise=10M-half,10M-full,100M-half,100M-full,1000M-half,1000M-full disabled=yes name=ether12-unused
set [ find default-name=ether2 ] advertise=10M-half,10M-full,100M-half,100M-full,1000M-half,1000M-full name=ether13-recovery
First, I don't get why speed equals 100Mbps when exporting, while they are Gbps when running.
Second, see the two last ethernet interfaces configuration ether1 and ether2 instead of ether12 and ether13.

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Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:11 am

PowerBox Pro: Went to v7.1 and about 24 hours later the bridge stopped transferring IP-traffic. At the same time RoMON still showed the device itself and neighbours behind it up and running. The RoMON ssh worked to get me around and to a reboot, what restored functionality...
N
ote: Make RoMON transfer files - I made a supout.rif, but that file is nowhere to be found after the reboot, so I can not provide any debugging data. Also, the ssh capability should be directly within the winbox RoMON discovery window itself, it will make operations much easier.


Back to v6.49 on that box.
 
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stupid question: Does this include swOS ?
I dont believe so, swOS has its own development tree and version numbers, I think the latest release in the 2.x tree for currently supported devices was back in April.
Note that at some time (maybe not just now, yet) it may be very attractive to move over from swOS to RouterOS when your switch can do both.
RouterOS is implementing L3 routing hardware acceleration on suitable switches, making them competitive with other L3 switches on the market.
(some people think that CRS means that the devices is both router and switch and is comparable with other routing switches, but until now this wasn't the case)
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:16 pm

Developers, please remove version 7.1 Stable from the distribution. This version has too many bugs and still needs to be fine-tuned. The errors are at the level when the device is completely blocked (to the bootloop state, etc.), which cannot be corrected by ordinary users without professional help. ISP providers have huge problems if they have updates set up from a stable channel. Apod. I do not understand how such a quality company can afford such a pace and release as an official and above all a stable version as official when this version is far from debugged for all devices on which the update is possible.
Many "hAp ac" routers are probably the worst affected - they always end with a bootloop.

MikrtoTik, please remove RouterOS 7.1. from the official stable channel! Or solve problems immediately.
Your "stable" version is very unstable!

Thank you
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:23 pm

Note that at some time (maybe not just now, yet) it may be very attractive to move over from swOS to RouterOS when your switch can do both.
RouterOS is implementing L3 routing hardware acceleration on suitable switches, making them competitive with other L3 switches on the market.
(some people think that CRS means that the devices is both router and switch and is comparable with other routing switches, but until now this wasn't the case)
Despite of that you can use your switch runnng RouterOS as a backup NTP, DNS and other small, very usefull servces in the network not loosing, at the same time, functionality and speed implemented in SwitchOS. There is one drawaback of RouterOS - it starts much slower than SwitchOS.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:31 pm

ISP providers have huge problems if they have updates set up from a stable channel.
Read what people and Mikrotik have posted before in this thread.
This is a problem only if an ISP has enabled auto update and only if they have MANUALLY switched over auto update to the v7 update channel. WHY WOULD YOU EVER DO THIS? Don't do that.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:56 pm

@truefriendcz

please calm down a little. If your devices are on v6 and stable channel, you won't get v7 "automatically". You won't get anything newer than 6.49.2 when you call "system package update check-for-updates".

v7 stable and v6 co-exist right now.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:14 pm

@truefriendcz

please calm down a little. If your devices are on v6 and stable channel, you won't get v7 "automatically". You won't get anything newer than 6.49.2 when you call "system package update check-for-updates".

v7 stable and v6 co-exist right now.
If one wants to update the firmware according to the updated version version, one must choose an upgrade - bug version 6.xx
This is the item in the RouterBOARD menu.
The item is selected automatically. The solution would be to combine the RouterOS version update with the firmware update, but no one in MikroTik still has that. Although I do not rule out the possibility that for many professional users, updating the RouterOS and updating the device firmware may be of some benefit. I mean by an update that is done separately and elsewhere. From my point of view, it just increases the incompatibility between RouterOS and the device.

It would be nice if one could check the option to update the firmware version along with the RouterOS update when updating RouterOS.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:21 pm

By the way, version 7.1 is currently being published as a long-term version. I don't know what happened, but they probably went crazy at MikroTik.
... https://mikrotik.com/download
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:28 pm

as it was already mentioned in this topic there are two separate branches v6 and v7. There is no 7.1 long term yet, because 7.1 is the only released version.
viewtopic.php?p=895584#p895584
 
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as it was already mentioned in this topic there are two separate branches v6 and v7. There is no 7.1 long term yet, because 7.1 is the only released version.
viewtopic.php?p=895584#p895584
But version 7.1 does not seem to be stable.
This is indicated by problems and also by how this version is identified after installation. It says "Testing". Although on the website is "stable".

Why is on the webpage as "Stable" and in downloaded "stable" npk indentifying in same package as "Testing" and does he have really big problems?
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:38 pm

Did you read anything? It does not replace version from 6 "stable" channel. You can keep using v6 without experimenting with v7.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:50 pm

After upgrade I have some configuration in place on most devices that I do not want. For example on a plain Router:
/interface lte apn
set [ find default=yes ] ip-type=ipv4
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] supplicant-identity=MikroTik
/routing bgp template
set default as=65530 disabled=no name=default output.network=bgp-networks
/routing ospf instance
add name=default-v2
add name=default-v3 version=3
/routing ospf area
add disabled=yes instance=default-v2 name=backbone-v2
add disabled=yes instance=default-v3 name=backbone-v3
Would be nice to avoid this.

Parts of this can be removed without problems (for example ospf configuration) but other parts remain. Any chance I can set the bgp settings back to default?
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:52 pm

@truefriendcz
7.1 long term means that it will take long term to fix all the bugs ;)
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:16 pm

To add to the noise in this thread - Can I suggest new threads for anything not releated to the actual released software - Like upgrade schemes, general insulting of MT, etc.

I run 7.1 in full production on more than 35 routers now (out of 500). 18 of these having multiple full BGP feeds. There are things to fix for sure, but it works better than 6.48.5 and 9.49.2 for me who has a relatively simple bgp/ospf all optic network.

So I beg all to stay on topic or make a new one since its getting hard to find the topic here soon.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:30 pm

keep the thread to 7.1 - and leave any insulting MT at home
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Comments like this do make sure this thread stays right on top of the most active ones, yes ...
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:47 pm

Did you read anything? It does not replace version from 6 "stable" channel. You can keep using v6 without experimenting with v7.
Well, it's not about the version, but about the channel. What is the purpose of the Alpha, Beta, RC, Testing channel, when a version gets into the Stable channel, which after installation is marked "Testing" and causes quite serious problems. For some open source project of people doing something somewhere in the garage at home, I would understand it, but for a company that offers Enterprise solutions and Cloud, it's kind of incomprehensible. I understand that the stable version may contain bugs, but bugs that make the Router not even start and have to reset the configuration, etc. So I don't understand. The two channels (RC and Testing) should focus on testing only. And if there are any errors, they cannot occur in the Stable channel at all. Only errors that the author does not know about will appear in the Stable channel and will only appear in the process.
I updated several RouterOS devices from version 6.xx stable to 7.1 stable and they didn't start right away (they ended up in bootloop). Initially, I added too much complex configuration to the Router, but the same thing happened even when I completely deleted the router using Netinstall and upgraded from a clean installation inhed after the netinstall image flashed.
When it is at such a level, it should be paramount to go back to the last known version, which the router does not even offer, and it must be done in an alternative way. Either by downloading the right package, or via NetInstall, where it goes to the level where a person loses all their settings when they do not have a backup, which has more value in the Enterprise environment than the router itself.
If you sent me version 7.1 for testing, or someone responded to the reported ones with more emphasis, you would find that the problems still exist. Bootloop, etc. I knew about the issue within five minutes on all hAP AC's routers. How is testing in your company? Do you have a chart of priorities that you follow or what is so important? Marketing, the possibility of simply reverting changes so that the user does not lose their settings, etc.?
I don't know what to imagine under the term "Testing channel", because it occurs to me that testing has not even taken place or something so professional is being tested that the obvious things have been completely forgotten. I really have no idea what the problem is.
When something is labeled Stable, it is in a way a certainty that I can go for it, because it is stable. That it's my decision and maybe it's my fault? I can choose whether I want to test or use the device. I choose the channel accordingly. When I choose the stable channel, I don't expect to test anything, but I do expect to use the device in live operation without any worries or worries. I can be extremely worried that another new version has been released and I do not have it updated. If I choose long-term, I choose stability, which will not be disturbed even by a serious mistake on my part. For example, a very bad configuration, or if I were illiterate, who does not understand it at all so as not to endanger both the device and the device in such a state, and I can use the device in such a state for a long time without it stopping working for me.
I use the Stable version because even the basic Hiawei Modem and other competing products are still in development and full IPv6 support has been a matter of course for some time. Unfortunately, my ISP operator has already completely switched to IPv6, and older versions of Mikrrotik routers, which I have very popular, do not fully support this ... inability to support older kernel for newer HiLink Huwaei USB routers, etc.
You've solved a lot of expertise, but the basics I've stated make it a problem.
Which is:
1. check the correct uploaded package - ARM or ARM64 version - so that it does not try to flash the ARM64 package to the ARM version of the device if the user accidentally uses another package
2. Functionality of the possibility to update to the correct channel Testing, Stable, Long-term and to make this option always functional (in version 7.1 stable is not functional and all version 7.1 (including long-term) is displayed. Possibly uncomplicated form of downgrade / upgrade.
3. Fixed distribution of rc channels, testing, stable, long-term and not to interfere with each other. Emphasize that what should be done in a given channel is done and not that users who choose a stable channel actually test it. Do not prioritize marketing interests so that the version is released even though it has bugs. On the forum, these people wrote you the mistakes here at the time when it was an RC channel. They have not been fixed and a stable channel has been released anyway. So I don't understand how you work in this area of ​​channeling and versioning.
4. Simply Enable/Disable packages... IPv6 in v7.1 a default is not enabled and not any place where i can enabling... IPv6 must enabling in 6.xx version, after this .. upgrade to 7.xx and viola, IPv6 is active.

I have 3 AC routers from your company only because the hAP AC2 version did not support the Huawei HiLink USB modem ... I was advised that the AC3 version already knows this, it also didn't. I was then advised to buy the AC3LTE6 version, she also couldn't do it and in the end I found out for myself that it is because the older version 6.xx does not support these modems and the version 7.x already does. But now there are this version issues. I would like to use the device so that I don't have to change my favorite company from Mikrotik to another.
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:15 pm

I tried to upgrade two RB1200 to new version, and after that only way to access them is over serial ports. From other routers in neighborhood you can see them, but there is no way to access them, not over MAC telnet, or SSH, you cannot ping them, they are completely locked.
Netinstall installation should work, but you will lose all router settings, including files stored in memory.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:35 pm

4. Simply Enable/Disable packages... IPv6 in v7.1 a default is not enabled and not any place where i can enabling... IPv6 must enabling in 6.xx version, after this .. upgrade to 7.xx and viola, IPv6 is active.
/ipv6/settings/set disable-ipv6=no
 
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4. Simply Enable/Disable packages... IPv6 in v7.1 a default is not enabled and not any place where i can enabling... IPv6 must enabling in 6.xx version, after this .. upgrade to 7.xx and viola, IPv6 is active.
/ipv6/settings/set disable-ipv6=no
Why is not in GUI in Windows (Winbox), or in WebFig?
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:44 pm


/ipv6/settings/set disable-ipv6=no
Why is not in GUI in Windows (Winbox), or in WebFig?
Try looking under IPv6 settings - first option.
 
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4. Simply Enable/Disable packages... IPv6 in v7.1 a default is not enabled and not any place where i can enabling... IPv6 must enabling in 6.xx version, after this .. upgrade to 7.xx and viola, IPv6 is active.
/ipv6/settings/set disable-ipv6=no
To really disable IPv6, you'll also need to disable IPv6 ND "neighbor discovery" (and in winbox, disable it in IPv6>Neighbors) – it still runs even if IPv6 routing is disabled using the disable-ipv6=no above.
/ipv6/nd/set [find default] disabled=yes
Otherwise, you'll see errors in log (at least in my case);
12:16:03 radvd,debug skip Router Advertisement sending on bridge1: no prefixes to send
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:09 pm



Why is not in GUI in Windows (Winbox), or in WebFig?
Try looking under IPv6 settings - first option.
IPv6 menu complette missed in GUI - Winbox + Webfig.
 
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:12 pm

I still find it amusing, that device-lock is available on CLI only.
 
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DOM/DDM on some SFPs not work anymore after upgrade to 7.1
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:31 pm

Interestingly, added the ability from the vpn server (l2tp/ipsec) to transfer routes to remote clients? For example dnsmasq can do this.
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Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:39 pm

trying to upgrade a CHR, is anyone getting this too?

@MikroTik] /system package update> download
channel: upgrade
installed-version: 6.49.2
latest-version: 7.1
status: calculating download size..

been like this for hours
Same for me, due to 6.49.2...
upgrade by upload manually file is ok...
 
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After update to 7.1 from 6.48.6 CHR, after 1 day every 5 mins mikrotik reboot, this problem is fixed after i downgrade to 6.48.6 everything work perfect, Could you check
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:29 am

Tell me who tested the speeds through WireGuard and OpenVPN UDP protocol? write down the speed that you got?
 
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After update to 7.1 from 6.48.6 CHR, after 1 day every 5 mins mikrotik reboot, this problem is fixed after i downgrade to 6.48.6 everything work perfect, Could you check
Did you collect a supout.rif before downgrading? Or maybe save the logs and/or increase the log level. No doubt you had a problem.

But what exactly should MT or anyone check here?
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:32 am

Tell me who tested the speeds through WireGuard and OpenVPN UDP protocol? write down the speed that you got?
WireGuard over LTE (~40Mbps down/~20Mbps up, 31ms ping)
WireGuard over Fibre (~900Mbps down/~465Mbps up, 3ms ping)

OpenVPN over LTE (~38Mbps down/~20Mbps up, 34ms ping)
OpenVPN over Fibre (~870Mbps down/~435Mbps up, 5ms ping)

OpenVPN is about the same for me, no noticeable difference for what i'm doing (personally prefer WireGuard)
 
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On what hardware?
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:37 am

Is it possible to go back to 6.49? Tried Netinstall on my hAP ac2 and it's doesn't work. (router doesn't show up in netinstall)

7.1 nowhere near "stable" on my hAP ac2, it's just completely hangs once a day and i had to power off it manually
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:49 am

Is Zero Tier only available on ARM devices? If so, will this feature be added on TILE-based architecture devices in the future?
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:38 am

I read and think to myself: I'll probably wait until 7.33 :)
 
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I wanted to update all my routers, because MT said it is stable. I was in the middle of another project, so I didn’t have time. I’m glad I didn’t update.
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:45 am

we are still getting issue about packets forward in a very strange way after several hours of operation.
- 3 days on a router with less route and less traffic
- 36 hours in a router with heavy traffic and 4 full routes

when the router enter in strange beavior it is:
- traceroute icmp through the router stops at the router ip
- tracerout from the router works
- some route are not able to be checkd by ping
- the router is fully accessible
- disabling/enabling interface doesn't cure the issue
- the only way to recover the router is a reboot

all my experience point to some issue about packet forwarding of some specific protocoll like icmp but also udp is at leeast affected.

waiting an answer from Mikrotik since dec1!!!!!!!
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:16 pm

"cpu-frequency=auto" on my Chateau LTE12 causes it to lock up completely after around 1d uptime. Sometimes only after 2d. It is unclear why, but switching back to "cpu-frequency=716MHz" makes it behave stable again.
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:21 pm

"cpu-frequency=auto" on my Chateau LTE12 causes it to lock up completely after around 1d uptime. Sometimes only after 2d. It is unclear why, but switching back to "cpu-frequency=716MHz" makes it behave stable again.
my is an x86 with xeon processor, so I can't play with it.
And for sure it is sligthly moving between 2.899-2.900ghz. Don't know if could cause the issue.

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Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:23 pm

I wanted to update all my routers, because MT said it is stable. I was in the middle of another project, so I didn’t have time. I’m glad I didn’t update.
You and others should note that "stable" refers to the development cycle, not to the stability of the software.
This has been discussed many times and it sure is confusing, but never assume that some software works OK or does not crash just because it is labeled with "stable".
It just means that it isn't fiddled with overnight, as "testing" or "development" would imply.

I sure think that MikroTik is announcing it as "stable" much too soon (it isn't even "completed"), but just proceeding to "update all routers" just because the word "stable" appears in the title is very unwise. Even for a new stable version within the 6.xx release. ALWAYS watch what others noticed, ALWAYS do your own testing with a limited number of routers (that you can physically access easily).
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:32 pm


Quite a lot of devices will lack new stack.
I have a RB4011 which fulfills the requirements for wifiwave2 but still I cannot use it because it doesn't co-exist with the normal package that is required to support 2.4 GHz WiFi.
Or did that change?
I'm running CAPsMAN server on our RB4011 with V7.1 with no problems with 2.4GHz. I also upgraded a Cap AC to 7.1. It runs as a CAP to the RB4011 without any problems. I don't know anything about WiFi WAVE 2. I find the WiFi performance is better on the Cap AC on V7.1 than it was on V6.49. The WiFi performance on the RB4011 was always very good.
 
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I had an odd issue across Firefox and Edge (Chromium) when upgrading to 7.1 stable via the upgrade channel. WebFig didn't quite work properly, and clicking on webfig would revert the selected button to Quickset, and it would bring up the Interface menu across the entire screen. However, the side panel would not show up.

Clearing cache (via force-reload) would resolve this. It just took me a lot longer than it should have to figure this out.
 
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Hello,

so, how do we do this recursive routing? It was a question here, last post was #604?

This is very commonly used I believe. My LTE link is a "backup route" and becomes the main route when the primary goes down.

Anyone? Thanks in advance.
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:04 pm

I've got 2011 as a CAPSMAN and a few cAPs , one wAP ac and one pwr-line.
May I downgrade 2011 (CAPSMAN) and still have all the caps on 7.1 ? Will that work ?
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:27 pm

More BGP bugs:
- refresh no longer works. It logs "RECV RouteRefresh with invalid subtype: 0" when a refresh is done on a v6 router or "RECV RouteRefresh: Invalid AFI and/or SAFI" when the other way around
- there appears to be an issue with route aggregation. v7 does not support is but when it receives an aggregated route from v6 it incorrectly forwards it further down the path
- info shown when double-clicking routes installed in the routing table (community value, AS path) appears to be wrong or out of date
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:50 pm

Hello,

I would like to upgrade a RB2011UiAS to 7.1 but it's an openwrt metarouter for mdns/bonjour reflection.
So I first tried on an old RB450G, and I tried to run a mikrotik metarouter and an openwrt one, the effect is the same, the device reboots.

Is metarouter still supposed to work on 7.1?

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Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:08 pm

I would like to upgrade a RB2011UiAS to 7.1 but it's an openwrt metarouter for mdns/bonjour reflection.
So I first tried on an old RB450G, and I tried to run a mikrotik metarouter and an openwrt one, the effect is the same, the device reboots.

Is metarouter still supposed to work on 7.1?

Good news and bad news here. No MetaROUTER in v7. MT will have docker containers, which likely offer more options for mDNS. Container, I suspect will be a like MetaROUTER...a little pain in the setup process.

As I right now, containers was only a preview, in one pre-release build. There were already mDNS efforts underway for it. MT tells us 7.2 will be "soon", and hopefully that will have containers.

I don't suspect V7 config upgrader (crossfig) will convert your MetaROUTER image to a container. And, no MetaROUTER coming back AFAIK.
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:35 pm

Just want to post up something positive for a change. Im definitely going to hold off on anything production related but at home my RB4011 has been running well with 0 problems on 7.1 since release.
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:32 pm

so, how do we do this recursive routing? It was a question here, last post was #604?
Same as before, but now target scope needs to be greater than scope, while in RouterOS v6 you could set target scope to the same as scope. Raise your target-scope by 1 compared to what it was in ROS6 and it should start working.
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Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:02 pm

error system critical "error while running customized default configuration script: bad command name wireless (line 977 column 25)" is still present in stable.

I've originally renamed default interfaces, dunno if the error makes any harm
Later I've restored original names wifi1/2/3 - the issue is still there.

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error system critical "error while running customized default configuration script: bad command name wireless (line 977 column 25)" is still present in stable.

I've originally renamed default interfaces, dunno if the error makes any harm
Later I've restored original names wifi1/2/3 - the issue is still there.

device - audience lte6 kit
You could try the wifiwave2 package? If it a single AP (no meshing to another audience etc). This is may in fact be a better choice if the "old" one isn't working/gives error. It still early, but we've been using on a couple Audience and be seemingly stable as simple access point.

The original config uses CAPSMAN, that would make any rename even more confusing on what it should do on upgrade. Should for sure file a bug at support@mikrotik.com with a supout.rif... You can also use "debug" top in System>Logging or other log options that might give more clues.
 
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Re: v7.1 is released!

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