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Which unit for fast wifi

Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:10 am

Hi all,

What's the best mikrotik unit that will support 500Mbps +/- via wifi. I currently have about 650Mbps from provider and would like to at least use 500+ of that through wifi. I bought a few ac2 which the spec sheet says they support 5ghz and 867Mbps, but I'm not seeing more than about 150Mbps via their wifi. If I flip over to a different mfg wifi I get 300+ to 400+ through the same ISP.

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Re: Which unit for fast wifi

Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:02 am

The 867Mbps are "interface rate" or PHY speed, the 150 Mbps are effective data rates. At high PHY rates the overhead is very large, 50% is no exception, and this is not by vendor but just the 802.11 wifi basic principle. Some vendors do better than others because they handle better the larger buffers with their drivers than others.

MT at high speed is relative weak. On 400Mbps PHY (40 MHz channel, 2 chains) then 260 Mbps is the max data rate to get. On 867Mbps PHY (80MHz channel, 2 chains) MT only gets 360Mbps as max data rate. Bi-directional will halve the data rate.
Things have improved with the "wifiwave2" drivers in RouterOS 7, on the devices that support it (limited list today! e.g. hAP ac3, Audience, RB4011 ...) many MT devices are NOT in the list ! Data rate is reported as 500Mbps+, like other brands.

Very extensive information on this can be found here: https://www.duckware.com/tech/wifi-in-the-us.html
And maybe this also: viewtopic.php?t=182503
 
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Re: Which unit for fast wifi

Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:16 am

Not yet is the right answer.............
Try the TPLINK eap620 for WIFI6 access point reasonably priced and reads vlans.
If you want to stick with wifi5, the Tp link eap245v3 works well for me.
 
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Re: Which unit for fast wifi

Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:19 am

Not yet is the right answer.............
Try the TPLINK eap620 for WIFI6 access point reasonably priced and reads vlans.
If you want to stick with wifi5, the Tp link eap245v3 works well for me.
Tested the other day on my iphone through ookla - 619/499.
 
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Re: Which unit for fast wifi

Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:40 pm

Hi all,

What's the best mikrotik unit that will support 500Mbps +/- via wifi. I currently have about 650Mbps from provider and would like to at least use 500+ of that through wifi. I bought a few ac2 which the spec sheet says they support 5ghz and 867Mbps, but I'm not seeing more than about 150Mbps via their wifi.
...can't say if it is the best, but I can get 600+ from my hap-ac^3 with wifiwave2 drivers....around 500+ in a 6-8m perimeter ... beware: no capsman available as of now.
See: viewtopic.php?p=909465#p909378
 
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Re: Which unit for fast wifi

Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:35 pm

Mikrotik Radios with the WAVE 2 Driver have way outperformed the old drivers. But they still are only about as good as a 2016 radio from other manufactures.

If caps-man had wave2 drivers and cAP AC could work on it... I would consider it.

But they way it is now... I had to go back to other vendors for WiFi several years back after CONSIDERABLE financial losses for not accepting that Mikrotik Radios were not gonna cut it.
 
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Re: Which unit for fast wifi

Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:05 pm

...I concur....this is what I did as well, but in current times, the other stuff went to unavailability by the seller.
As I had my MT equipment still around, there was only a short 2nd thought about trying....meanwhile I had to cancel my order.
With the current wave2 setup I now can wait until other 6E+ Equipment (and Clients) will show up...

Would I buy MT wifi equipment new, today? With wav2 support *and* capsman support, I definitely would consider it (still not many .ax devices around here).
 
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Re: Which unit for fast wifi

Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:33 pm

Thanks for all the info. I think I'm at that point also for all my in house stuff.

I am concerned however, I ordered 3 hAP ac2 that have gigabit ports and I can't get them to transmit more than about 150Mbps. At least the RB2011 I've got is getting pretty close to a direct connect to my providers router (which is around 300).

I'm going to be testing the RB2011 on the 600Mbps later today.

Oh and btw, I tried putting 7.x on one of the ac2 units and then putting the wave drivers. Can't really tell if they installed or are even compatible with that unit, but I can say that after putting 7.x on the unit any time I did a speed test the unit would reboot during the middle of the test. So that's out.

Again, thanks for the info.

Cheers!
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Re: Which unit for fast wifi

Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:58 pm

345Mbps should be attainable with ROS 6 on a hAP ac2 (5180MHz-20MHz Ceee a 80 MHz wide band), if the client is also dual stream capable.
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