In fact we can't...or maybe barely... and either way that is a poor comfort, for mee at least.For context, some of the clients we work for that use Cisco and Juniper have an average of more than 1-year lead time for most equipment and some are even getting close to a 2-year lead time.
So the fact that we can still buy MikroTik inventory at all is pretty amazing compared to the rest of the networking industry.
And what is done to improve the situation, except for waiting?
What we don't want is having to move away from Mikrotik as preferred brand (if there are other brands to move to...) , and I don't think Mikrotik wants that either.
I advise you to study the matter a bit better, e.g. read some general articles about it on the tech news sites etc.In fact we can't...or maybe barely... and either way that is a poor comfort, for mee at least.
Try to get hold of a Mikrotik PoE switch these days...
The problem that I try to address is that this just happens without notice and nobody knows, all we hear is rumors that it is about chips from China...
We can cope with a lot of situations if we get information and prospects of improvement, so what is this all about?
Factory workers at home with Covid? Factories burned down? Bankrupcy in the industry? Silicon shortage? Transport challenges? Politics?
Is this an evidence of the western hemisphere's all too large dependency on China?
And what is done to improve the situation, except for waiting?
What we don't want is having to move away from Mikrotik as preferred brand (if there are other brands to move to...) , and I don't think Mikrotik wants that either.
As you say: the big boys don't, why would the smaller ones do it ? For what purpose ? To put the spotlights on themselves and take the heat ?How can that possibly be interpreted as blaming them, accusing them for not changing the whole industry, ditching them as a supplyer, or merely be taken as a sign of sheer ignorance?
If Mikrotik was "just another manufacturer of bottom of the barrel gear" I would not bother to address this, the reason I do is that they make great stuff and that I care.
Nobody expect Cisco and HP to step down and communicate with their customers, they are far too big.
Mikrotik is different, they are human beings that we use to shake hands with at the MUMs, and whom we can discuss things with.
Ok, to me transparency vs customers is a good thing.As you say: the big boys don't, why would the smaller ones do it ? For what purpose ? To put the spotlights on themselves and take the heat ?
Bad marketing... I completely understand why they do NOT mention anything.
You misunderstood me there, I think.Ok, to me transparency vs customers is a good thing.
But of course I respect your right to disagree.
Scary prospects indeed...China has everyone [mfgs & vendors] by the short hairs ... geopolitics is causing a very significant realignment so until that is sorted out China will use all of its commercial weapons' to gain the upper hand. Since EVERYONE in this game relied on the very cheap labour that China offered and delivered the consequences is very obvious. The Supply chain is in a mess and will take time to sort out.
Damn straight.So it's their decision.
I advise you to study the matter a bit better, e.g. read some general articles about it on the tech news sites etc.
I understand there is a shortage, but how can they not have ANY RB5009UG routers to sell between Feb and July? ZERO!
Wow, I get called out for a lack of empathy towards victims of war because I am asking why are the shipping dates of network equipment keep slipping. Internet turn of even here...
Have a bit of empathy while you shout about getting your "home" router. Jus sayin...
Thank you for information about MT's contribution in Ukraine's struggle against her neighbor from hell, I believe this is new information for most of us, and of course I don't protest to this.The fact that MIkroTik is shipping *anything* that does routing and switching puts them ahead of most every other network vendor on the planet.
There's also a war on Lativa's doorstep. MikroTik donated hundreds of thousands of euros worth of equipment to help restore connectivity in Ukraine and surrounding refugee camps. If they got all the 5009s that were in stock until July, i'm 110% ok with that.
Have a bit of empathy while you shout about getting your "home" router. Jus sayin...
Well, as I read it he is criticising mk47 because he is trying to get hold of a home router and kind of calls for empathy and guilt because that conflicts with MT donating gear to Ucraine..I do not see any "ridiculing" on what @IPANetEngineer has wrote
Shortages, zero communication, slippery delivery dates are nothing new, and did not started with current situation in Ukraine and supposed "donations"... This is what I'm experiencing with Mikrotik for the last 3 years...Well, as I read it he is criticising mk47 because he is trying to get hold of a home router and kind of calls for empathy and guilt because that conflicts with MT donating gear to Ucraine..
I believe everybody supports MTs act here, but how was anyone supposed to know of that secret before now?
Well, why would MikroTik have to communicate with us, the users, about their delivery times?
But it is much more likely to create bad PR! When MikroTik write here "we have only 1000 chips of type X in stock and the next delivery will be in november", what do you think the reaction would be? "hey thank you for that info!"? I don't think so...Because MT can create good PR.Well, why would MikroTik have to communicate with us, the users, about their delivery times?
Nobody expext them to disclose the exact number of a certain piece of chip...that is not what this is all about...But it is much more likely to create bad PR! When MikroTik write here "we have only 1000 chips of type X in stock and the next delivery will be in november", what do you think the reaction would be? "hey thank you for that info!"? I don't think so...
Because MT can create good PR.
I believe everybody supports MTs act here, but how was anyone supposed to know of that secret before now?
Since when is Twitter their official channel of information?MikroTik has been posting about this for weeks on their social media channels.
https://twitter.com/mikrotik_com/status ... 3wvtED_xSA
Since when is Twitter their official channel of information?
This forum is as official channel of information as twitter or facebook. It's been said many times that this is user forum.Since when is Twitter their official channel of information?MikroTik has been posting about this for weeks on their social media channels.
https://twitter.com/mikrotik_com/status ... 3wvtED_xSA
I don't mean to be rude, but if you're not keeping up with major suppliers' social media while simultaneously complaining about not hearing of updates...that's kind of on you. You don't need to "use" social media (i.e be sucked into the world of countless hours scrolling through posts, arguing with people online, etc) in an everyday sense but, if you're unwilling to download an app or sign into a site just like you did on this forum and at a minimum follow the companies you want to see updates from...do you expect sympathy from anyone?What's this social media you talk about ?
Don't use it, never will.