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Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:12 pm

Hi!

I have run out of discspace in my LTE-12 router..

I only has 1-2% free discspace left, but I don´t have any large files on it. For the moment just under 400 KB in total.

How do I restore the storage size?
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:15 pm

Netinstall ...
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:21 pm

Netinstall ...
Ok.. I´d hope there was an easier way..

Thanx.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:53 pm

TL;DR: the low disk space is expected.

See:viewtopic.php?t=171376#p837871

One chateau I just checked shows V7.7 as:
 free-hdd-space: 884.0KiB
 total-hdd-space: 15.2MiB

With the following packages loaded:
/system/package/print 
Columns: NAME, VERSION
# NAME      VERSION
0 zerotier  7.7    
1 iot       7.7    
2 routeros  7.7    
3 gps       7.7    
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:18 pm

TL;DR: the low disk space is expected.

See:viewtopic.php?t=171376#p837871

One chateau I just checked shows V7.7 as:
 free-hdd-space: 884.0KiB
 total-hdd-space: 15.2MiB

With the following packages loaded:
/system/package/print 
Columns: NAME, VERSION
# NAME      VERSION
0 zerotier  7.7    
1 iot       7.7    
2 routeros  7.7    
3 gps       7.7    
OK Thank you. So a netinstall will not solve my issue then..

I have a unplesant issue, upon rebooting the device it will not startup at all. I have to make a reset on it (By holding the reset button upon power-on until i get blinking green LED, and then restore from a backup. I don´t know if this is because the lack of disc space, or if it´s a completly different problem.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:32 pm

Maybe it's filled with core dumps of crashed processes. Do you have autosupout.rif file in files when it's booted?
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:32 pm

Also, I'd make sure you're running the latest V7 stable. Also want might want to make sure you firmware matches the RouterOS version. /system/routerboard/upgrade

I'm not sure it's the disk space that's causing it not to boot.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:37 pm

Maybe it's filled with core dumps of crashed processes. Do you have autosupout.rif file in files when it's booted?
Nope...
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:38 pm

And also I will suggest to restore configuration from export file not backup after netinstall. It seems that backup image can have some disk wasting files in it.
I figured that out with on my Chateau, there was more free disk space after importing export .rsc than restoring from backup for same configuration.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:41 pm

Also, I'd make sure you're running the latest V7 stable. Also want might want to make sure you firmware matches the RouterOS version. /system/routerboard/upgrade

I'm not sure it's the disk space that's causing it not to boot.
Yes, 7.8, and with updated and matching firmware.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:43 pm

And also I will suggest to restore configuration from export file not backup after netinstall. It seems that backup image can have some disk wasting files in it.
I figured that out with on my Chateau, there was more free disk space after importing export .rsc than restoring from backup for same configuration.
OK, Thank you. Will try a netinstall lateron. I need another LTE-router in case of emergency before I trying to netinstall my Chateau unit..
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:49 pm

Don't use logs with disk action which writes to flash/logs. That can also fill disk if you have large records limit and it is not recommended to have them on flash if you need log persistence because it can wear out flash.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:53 pm

Don't use logs with disk action which writes to flash/logs. That can also fill disk if you have large records limit and it is not recommended to have them on flash if you need log persistence because it can wear out flash.
No local logfiles on this device. All logs is sent to a syslog-server.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:59 pm

Maybe just try to recreate your configuration instead of restoring the backup?

It possible something go wrong in the restore process, that's leaving the router in a bad state.

I get netinstall can be PITA, but it worth a shot if you really want to use restore backup. But again if an issue with the backup file/restore process/etc, it's also possible netinstall might not work... Thus the top-line suggestion.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:07 pm

Maybe just try to recreate your configuration instead of restoring the backup?

It possible something go wrong in the restore process, that's leaving the router in a bad state.

I get netinstall can be PITA, but it worth a shot if you really want to use restore backup. But again if an issue with the backup file/restore process/etc, it's also possible netinstall might not work... Thus the top-line suggestion.
Ok, when I have a fallback LTE router on-site I will try to make an netinstall, and then restore config by using rsc file and see how this turns out.

it´s kind of risky, I know, thats why I want to have a fallback solution with another LTE device.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:14 pm

See if you have bad-blocks on output for:
/system/resource print
, that can also cause lower disk space.
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:R ... bad_blocks
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:43 pm

See if you have bad-blocks on output for:
/system/resource print
, that can also cause lower disk space.
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:R ... bad_blocks
Strange,.. My LTE-12 unit does not show any bad block information at all in the /resource menu. Not in the WinBox GUI that is. The information is missing out. My other MT devices do show that information. .
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:41 am

Strange,.. My LTE-12 unit does not show any bad block information at all in the /resource menu. Not in the WinBox GUI that is. The information is missing out. My other MT devices do show that information. .
It seems it is hidden if there is no bad blocks.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:14 pm

Strange,.. My LTE-12 unit does not show any bad block information at all in the /resource menu. Not in the WinBox GUI that is. The information is missing out. My other MT devices do show that information. .
It seems it is hidden if there is no bad blocks.
Ok, that´s may be the case.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:07 pm

I have performed a netinstall on my LTE-12 unit. It didn´t solve my issues.

Prior to the netinstall I have run into a new issue. I can´t send SMS anymore (It´s type of vital in my config). When I trying to send a SMS the router responds with "Couldn´t perform action - MEMORY_FULL (6) (6)".

The issue remained after netinstall (I tried to send SMS before any config was restored).

My ISP is limiting data to 50GB/24H. If I overshoot this limit I have to send a SMS and they give me 5GB extra per SMS. If I don´t send SMS they stops all traffic until receiving SMS.
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:42 pm

If you don't use zerotier remove that package, npk itself is 750Kb, I guess when installed is even more because of compression.
On mine device without zerotier disk space is
free-hdd-space: 1096.0KiB
total-hdd-space: 15.2MiB
Probably this issue would be on my device also if zerotier is installed...
I think it was mistake from MT to build quite powerful (and not cheap) device like LTE12 with only 16Mb disk space because it's limiting which packages can be installed (rose-storage, dude...).
 
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Re: Chateau LTE-12

Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:54 pm

If you don't use zerotier remove that package, npk itself is 750Kb, I guess when installed is even more because of compression.
On mine device without zerotier disk space is
No, I´m not using Zerotier on this unit but I´m running a EoIP tunnel over SSTP on it though.

I have get rid of the MEMORY_FULL issue. After a while about 15-20 SMS in the inbox got visible, upon deleting those I can send and receive SMS again.
So for the moment it´s running as it should, maybe the netinstall solved a couple of issues. I have to wait an see..

Thank you all for supporting me in this issue!

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