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WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 11:53 am

What's new in v3.38:

*) fixed connecting to wireless network from QuickSet when there was no password specified;
*) fixed date and time value representation in the User Manager;
*) fixed skin file reading;

If you experience version related issues, then please report them to support@mikrotik.com.

Both Winbox 32-bit and 64-bit versions are available here:
https://www.mikrotik.com/download
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 11:57 am

thank you
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 12:23 pm

nice work, thx
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 12:30 pm

Firewall rules lists are still 'cut in the middle' when first displayed. As soon as you move to another tab and go back to the previous one, the list is complete.
My experience is that:
- "filter" list is cut at line 96
- "nat" at line 46
- "mangle" at line 73

Not a big deal but annoying since it's been present for a couple of winbox version w/o a proper fix.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 12:37 pm

Firewall rules lists are still 'cut in the middle' when first displayed. As soon as you move to another tab and go back to the previous one, the list is complete.
My experience is that:
- "filter" list is cut at line 96
- "nat" at line 46
- "mangle" at line 73
Works OK for me. Try removing your session file, that often solves winbox problems.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 12:45 pm

thank you. appreciated.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 1:07 pm

Firewall rules lists are still 'cut in the middle' when first displayed. As soon as you move to another tab and go back to the previous one, the list is complete.
My experience is that: "filter" list is cut at line 96, "nat" at line 46, "mangle" at line 73
Works OK for me. Try removing your session file, that often solves winbox problems.
I've already tried, even w/o session/profile and clearing cache it is still beheaving almost in the same way ("filter"/83, "nat"/46 and "mangle"/73).
Nothing's changed from the previoius version, I can live with that but it's worth mentioning here not to forget.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 2:05 pm

*) fixed skin file reading;
This means that if I use winbox 3.37 and earlier, with bad skins from 7.8 onwards (barring future bugfixes), I can have full access,
instead using 3.38 the menus are hidden correctly, giving false security, but just use 3.37 and you still have full access?....
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 2:28 pm

But I still cant set group key update to 12h on wave2 capsman.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 3:38 pm

This means that if I use winbox 3.37 and earlier, with bad skins from 7.8 onwards (barring future bugfixes), I can have full access,
instead using 3.38 the menus are hidden correctly, giving false security, but just use 3.37 and you still have full access?....
I think skins are not really about security. They "hide" certain options, but when you know how you can still access them.
It is mainly intended as a helper for people who do not need certain options and are confused by the many menus and buttons.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 4:58 pm

Any chance to fix this viewtopic.php?p=938420#p938367 simple issue of not sorted Address List in DHCP static lease drop down option? Reported already many times with each new release :-(, How much time takes this fix...on or two minutes?
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 6:11 pm

Firewall rules lists are still 'cut in the middle' when first displayed. As soon as you move to another tab and go back to the previous one, the list is complete.
My experience is that:
- "filter" list is cut at line 96
- "nat" at line 46
- "mangle" at line 73

Not a big deal but annoying since it's been present for a couple of winbox version w/o a proper fix.
Never seen that. Just opened WinBox 3.37 here and connected to my main home router. Filter rules is 253 items and NAT is 168. Both showed the full list right away. I don't have near enough Mangle rules to hit that limit.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 8:01 pm


*) fixed skin file reading;
Can you add a minimum winbox version option for the next release of ROS? We're interested in releasing winbox access for customers (currently we only allow a heavily skinned webfig) but need to ensure that skins are honored by all connections, and so need to ensure that old versions of winbox that have problems are not allowed to connect.
 
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Tue May 02, 2023 8:04 pm

Any chance to fix this viewtopic.php?p=938420#p938367 simple issue of not sorted Address List in DHCP static lease drop down option? Reported already many times with each new release :-(, How much time takes this fix...on or two minutes?
It works OK here. Did you try to reproduce it without your session file for that device (temporarily move it away)?
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 9:15 pm

SKINS ARE NOT FOR SECURITY

It is to hide confusing items from beginner users. maybe your novice technician needs to disable users and doesn't want to see confusing menus. Set him up with correct winbox and tell him what button to push. You can also use it for translation, or simplification of menu names.

SKINS ARE NOT FOR SECURITY
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue May 02, 2023 9:41 pm

@maisonmdsgreen
do not quote unnecessarily, and even without the slightest sense
do not write the same thing over and over again
viewtopic.php?p=999592#p999592
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed May 03, 2023 12:07 am

SKINS ARE NOT FOR SECURITY

It is to hide confusing items from beginner users. maybe your novice technician needs to disable users and doesn't want to see confusing menus. Set him up with correct winbox and tell him what button to push. You can also use it for translation, or simplification of menu names.

SKINS ARE NOT FOR SECURITY
OK, For the ten thousandth time, if you don't want us to use skins for this then GIVE US A PROPER TOOL TO RESTRICT DEVICE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE FOR SECURITY.. MANY of us deploy these routers as CPEs for ISP deployments or other industrial / enterprise applications, these routers do not belong to the users that log into them, they are simply on loan to them. The end users are granted limited access to customize specific settings while in their possession but restrictions on the configuration need to exist, and most of the devices eventually get returned to be reassigned to a new end user when they move out. We need a functional and reliable method to do this, skins are an entirely satisfactory method to limit this access for most people, we just need them to work every time and not break after every 2nd or 3rd update, and for you to recognize that this "not for security" functionality is something that is actually extremely important to many of us, regardless of if you want to call it security or not, the end result is what matters.

99% of our use of and need for skins falls exactly in line with your description, except for the problem where they don't always work. We simplify the UI for end users to only present them the controls they need to access, and we hide from them the menus and controls which they should not be inside of. I don't care if you want to call it security or not, but whatver you call it and if not skins, however you choose to implement it, your customers are telling you we need this functionality to be reliable.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed May 03, 2023 11:41 am

Any chance to fix this viewtopic.php?p=938420#p938367 simple issue of not sorted Address List in DHCP static lease drop down option? Reported already many times with each new release :-(, How much time takes this fix...on or two minutes?
It works OK here. Did you try to reproduce it without your session file for that device (temporarily move it away)?
Thanks for this..I did double check the current state - it seams that it is sorted on selected devices only OR it is related to ROS version. On RB 750G r3 and ROS 7.2.1 it is sorted, but od CCR1036 6.49.7 is NOT. Unfortunately we cannot move from 6.49.7 at least because of unsuported UPS for CCR in v7. Not sure if the device or ROS version is the reason (removing session file does not help).
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed May 03, 2023 11:44 am

You are right, I tested it only with v7 but now that I look on a v6.49 router indeed it is not sorted. Apparently the sorting is done by the router, not winbox.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed May 03, 2023 12:13 pm

You are right, I tested it only with v7 but now that I look on a v6.49 router indeed it is not sorted. Apparently the sorting is done by the router, not winbox.
So now it is clear that this issue remain in ROS 6.49.7 only :-( Unfortunately there are still many devices and installations where ROS 7 cannot be used (in our case the unsupported UPS or SD cards on CCR or routing priority issue (undocumented change) since ROS v7.2.1+).
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed May 03, 2023 12:24 pm

Of course there are reasons why one cannot upgrate to v7, but I can't imagine that this particular issue would get any priority. It looks like the sequence is always the same and may be the sequence these address lists were added during configuration. It is a matter of "getting used to".
You may be able to fix it by doing /export of your router config, sort everything as you like in the exported file, then reset to defaults and import it again.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Thu May 04, 2023 2:07 am

No "make static" on dynamic lease. Only when you open lease window you can make it static.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Thu May 04, 2023 2:34 am

No "make static" on dynamic lease. Only when you open lease window you can make it static.
Right click on the dynamic lease and select Make Static just as it has been as long as I can remember.
My test was on a RB4011iGS+ running 6.49.6
 
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Thu May 04, 2023 2:37 am

ROS 7.9 ... absent on M33G and RB953
 
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Mon May 22, 2023 1:10 pm

Please release Official Version for MAC OS
 
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Mon May 22, 2023 1:13 pm

Please release Official Version for MAC OS
do not exist any "unofficial version"... or not????
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed May 24, 2023 11:53 pm

Same problem reports by others ... Winbox v3.38 is not hiding all items set to be hidden by the skin used. Works great on the webfig, but Winbox still shows some. On the attached images, IPv6 and MPLS are disabled on the used skin, really *not* shown via the webfig access but still there on the Winbox. They are empty on the Winbox, which seems something seems to be kind of understood that it shouldn't be displayed, but the expandable item is there anyway.

skin editor disabling IPv6 and MPLS
skin.png
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Winbox access still shows IPv6 and MPLS (no items are shown, but the main item still there)
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed May 31, 2023 12:40 pm

Latest winbox
open logs
try to move a column (for example #) to the right, winbox crashes.
 
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Wed May 31, 2023 12:48 pm

Latest winbox
open logs
try to move a column (for example #) to the right, winbox crashes.

Is present in near all version of 3.x winbox, is not only on latest, and only on # column, not to all, and on any table that have # column, not only logs.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:12 pm

No "make static" on dynamic lease. Only when you open lease window you can make it static.

I am experiencing the same issue on 7.9.2

ROS 6.X seems to work as expected.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:51 pm

I'm facing a problem while editing scripts or schedules with Winbox 3.38 ... i'm actually not sure if this might be a RoS (i'm on v7.9.2) problem (not saving correct linefeeds/linebreaks) or the Winbox on not formatting it accordingly. But as I'm facing the problem on the Winbox, so i'm reporting it here.

While using webfig, I can edit multi-lines scripts or schedules with no problem, new lines works as expected. Editing the same script/schedule on the Winbox, however, seems to completly miss newlines. If I correct everything (giving the needed "Enters" on the Winbox, Webfig starts showing empty lines). Seems some mismatch on displaying or maybe how Webfig saves stuff, maybe a CR or CRLF mismatch situation.
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editing via Webfig (RouterOS v7.9.2), everything seems fine
ros792 webfig.png
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editing the same script on Winbox 3.38, newlines are completly gone
ros792 winbox 3.38.png
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If I introduce the newlines via Winbox, everything seems fine again on Winbox
ros792 winbox 3.38-2.png
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but appears with extra empty lines on Webfig ...
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:34 pm

The problem is your os/broser, since you do not specify what are, for sure, is os/browser failure.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:20 pm

The problem is your os/broser, since you do not specify what are, for sure, is os/browser failure.
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OOOps, I'm sorry for not mentioning that .... Firefox 114.0 on Windows 11 for the Webfig and Winbox v3.38 64bits
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:51 pm

You paste the script from notepad?
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:20 am

You paste the script from notepad?
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While the answer would be yes, I also tried creating a new schedule completly from scratch via Webfig, typing line by line, Enter by Enter, no paste whatsoever, and the behavior (missing newlines on Winbox) was still reproducible.

Might be related with pasted text, but I could also reproduce it on a completly new script created via Webfig and after edited via Winbox. Would you mind trying that?

If created via Winbox and edited on Webfig after, the script looks OK (newlines are in place). But as soon it's edited and saved via Webfig, it's now missing newlines via Winbox.
 
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Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:36 am

If created via Winbox and edited on Webfig after, the script looks OK (newlines are in place). But as soon it's edited and saved via Webfig, it's now missing newlines via Winbox.
Confirmed !
@leonardogyn: best to create a ticket with reference to your post.

Winbox 64b V3.38
Edge on Win11/64bit
Tested on 7.10rc1 RB5009

Step 1 is from Winbox.
Step 2 is from Webfig
Open script again in Winbox, no newlines anymore.
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:19 pm

Confirmed !
@leonardogyn: best to create a ticket with reference to your post.
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Will do it, and will point the Webfig as the likely culprit, it doesn't seem to be a Winbox problem after all. Thanks for the confirmation! :)
 
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Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:11 pm

Confirmed !
@leonardogyn: best to create a ticket with reference to your post.
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@holvoent @rextended just did some more testings, and with a '/system script export' I can clearly see that stuff saved from Winbox, lines always ends with an \r (return) and lines saved from Webfig, don't have it. The problem is likely caused by that, altough I don't know which behavior should be considered the correct one. Bug reported as SUP-118790.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:12 pm

This is nothing new, winbox is a windows application so it is using and expecting \r\n just like any other windows app.
 
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Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:25 pm

Funny fact is that it behaves different on Linux with wine... 😝
 
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Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:58 pm

But seriously... Winbox should handle that properly. Every text editor (perhaps except MS Notepad... 🤪) can handle both, DOS (\r\n) and Unix (\n) line endings. Winbox should handle both without issue as well.

That would make my life a bit easier... The line endings topic causes problem for people that use my scripts every now and then, again and again.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:04 pm

Indeed, when they cannot standardize internally on a single line ending system, they should transparently handle them all.
\r \r\n \n should all be "end of line". And of course \r\n should NOT be "two line-endings", so that means some clever handling is required.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:54 pm

bug was confirmed from Mikrotik team on SUP-118790. Thank you all for the inputs and insights, but it's indeed a confirmed bug, not a browser problem. It will be fixed someday, indeed with some clever handling from Winbox and Webfig.

Thank you for contacting MikroTik Support.
Thank you for the report.
We were able to reproduce your issue in our labs.
Our developers have already considered this issue and it will be fixed in future releases, but unfortunately, I cannot share any ETA yet.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:55 pm

This is nothing new, winbox is a windows application so it is using and expecting \r\n just like any other windows app.
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Sure, that by itself is not the problem, no way. The problem is different platforms, both provided by Mikrotik, not handling things the same way, as already confirmed by Mikrotik Support Team. Anyway, thanks for your inputs :)
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:09 am

Well... I did not find a better place to put this message and it is definitely related to 3.38 so I am writing this here.

The problem is with auto-reconnect feature - it works well with straight IP connection to device, but there's a big problem with RoMON, if master password is enabled for saved device list. Every time connection is cut, Winbox tries to initiate auto-reconnect, but fails because it fails to reconnect to RoMON agent because master password is needed to unlock the device list. Ths does not happen when RoMON is not used to connect and it does not seem to be related to "Keep password" setting either...
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:22 am

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The search bar is so short, it seriously affects the use, and it can't be displayed completely. Isn't there still a lot of space next to it, why not make it longer.
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When using Torch, the ipv6 option has been turned off, why is it still displayed, and the traffic is also counted.
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:11 am

HYou just set that you do not want to see ipv6 addressees, but all mac protocols are still selected.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Thu Jun 29, 2023 6:48 pm

HYou just set that you do not want to see ipv6 addressees, but all mac protocols are still selected.
Perfectly solved the problem.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:40 pm

Same problem reports by others ... Winbox v3.38 is not hiding all items set to be hidden by the skin used. Works great on the webfig, but Winbox still shows some. On the attached images, IPv6 and MPLS are disabled on the used skin, really *not* shown via the webfig access but still there on the Winbox. They are empty on the Winbox, which seems something seems to be kind of understood that it shouldn't be displayed, but the expandable item is there anyway.
Indeed! I also encountered that bug and wanted to report it but I see you already did that.
E.g. in MPLS (which I do not use) I disabled both the parent and the 4 sub-menus but MPLS still shows.
Other menu items that have no submenus (like Wireless and CAPsMAN) are correctly removed.
 
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Re: WinBox v3.38 released!

Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:03 pm

WinBox v3.39 is released.
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