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Practical Applications for Endpoint-NAT

Tue May 16, 2023 6:00 pm

There was a long winded debate about subject and other topics, which most users should avoid.
I am looking for the so what on this feature. Has anyone tried this functionality?
Is there a list of uses for it that are currently working. Not looking for any debates but for practical reasons to use this feature based on real world experience. Not for theory discussions!!
 
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Re: Practical Applications for Endpoint-NAT

Tue May 16, 2023 7:13 pm

Facts, just field practice, no theory:
Never used, never requested by customers.
I play various online co-op or pvp video games (and I'm not ashamed of it), never used. I do not play or tested all games, obviously,
but if my customers have any problem, I would have known.
I don't do NAT or double NAT with customers (and also all customers have 1500 as WAN MTU),
but each customer has its own Public IP (and obviously the LAN is NATtated) and its public IPv6 /56 pool, not NATtated (obviously).
 
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Re: Practical Applications for Endpoint-NAT

Tue May 16, 2023 11:47 pm

Good to know, so far "0" practical applications for the home user.
 
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Re: Practical Applications for Endpoint-NAT

Wed May 17, 2023 11:45 am

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Re: Practical Applications for Endpoint-NAT

Wed May 17, 2023 12:07 pm

Don't be silly, anav. We don't know how to internet properly, that's why we don't know what to use it for. Other great minds demanded this feature for a reason, those great minds know how to internet properly.
PS: the feature mentioned in this topic is "Endpoint-Independent NAT" you're missing the "independent" in the topic title.

Disclaimer: this post was very dependent on the internet endpoint.
 
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Re: Practical Applications for Endpoint-NAT

Thu May 18, 2023 4:05 am

Stop wasting your time, move to IPv6 native, with /56 static PD.

Either way, I play CoD Warzone, it works behind CGNAT correctly when using EIM-NAT on Cisco and Juniper, NAT Type is detected as “Open” in-game. When using netmap, sometimes it's open, sometimes it's moderate. With EIM-NAT, it should always be open.

MikroTik's implementation is half-assed, never tested, but once it's available in 7.10 stable, I will enable it on my home devices to allow UDP P2P networking to work without STUN, I use apps that rely on UDP P2P such as BitTorrent, VoIP (Telegram) etc.

It's better than nothing, but if improperly configured, you might just end up breaking TCP/Non-UDP traffic because MikroTik only supports UDP for it.

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