Hello,
The question is - why so expensive device has so small HDD size ? Only 15MB ? Almost all space is used by RouterOS system. Only few KB for end user??
It is possible to increase the HDD size ?
Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
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Re: Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
Modern flash storage has limited write endurance whereas spinning rust media is unlimited.
Plug a storage device into USB port and use that device for storage.
Plug a storage device into USB port and use that device for storage.
Re: Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
I plugged in a USB flash drive and set logging on USB drive. But the lack of system storage is not resolved.
I remember on older mipsbe mikrotik a had plenty of packages installed, but here, on the new Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD, I installed only 2 packages, routeros and zerotier and have 98% used space. I don't want to remove zerotier to free space. I'm also using graphs for stats.
What else can I do to free some space on this device?
I remember on older mipsbe mikrotik a had plenty of packages installed, but here, on the new Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD, I installed only 2 packages, routeros and zerotier and have 98% used space. I don't want to remove zerotier to free space. I'm also using graphs for stats.
What else can I do to free some space on this device?
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Re: Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
What else can I do to free some space on this device?
There's nothing you can do (apart from uninstalling wifi packages but I don't think you want to do that).
It seems that MT considers that only one solution exists: buy new device with larger storage. Because they don't seem to accept any idea which would allow to comfortably run recent ROS versions on not-so-ancient ARM devices with only 16MB flash space.
Re: Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
It depends on the model family. The Chateaus are mostly used by mobile operators, they pre-configure them and give them to home users, who never log into the router, or don't even have a password for it. Those are devices that are plug and play. You CAN access and use RouterOS, but they are not meant for customisation. When buying a device, pay atention to available resources, if you wish to put a lot of custom config on the device.
Re: Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
When buying a device, pay atention to available resources, if you wish to put a lot of custom config on the device.
Part of a problem we're seeing today is that ROS v6 ran pretty comfortably on these devices. v7 brought new features (wireguard and zerotier to name a couple) which consume additional flash space ... and space requirements for base package also grew slightly. With 7.13 the later went up considerably even if one keeps using legacy wireless package.
Alas, MT didn't clearly indicate (in basic product documents) that certain device models will have issues running certain ROS versions, specially if user tries to add optional functionality. Meaning that user has no means of "paying attention to available resources" ... Sadly the quoted part of reply by @Normis shows continuation of denial mode which MT adopted regarding the 16MB flash space on not-so-ancient ARM devices.
Re: Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
@cainos
I have a basic question: what do you want to do with more free disk space?
I have a basic question: what do you want to do with more free disk space?
Re: Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
Like said by Normis, you can see the size of the storage in the technical datasheet of the device. What do you want to blame/ask next? "Why can such an expensive device only have WIFI 5?"The question is - why so expensive device has so small HDD size?
I don't know when you've bought your device, but there exists an upgraded version called Chateau LTE18 ax. It features 128MB storage, more RAM, more powerful CPU, WIFI 6. For a little surcharge of usually ~50EUR.
Re: Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
Install additional packages, for example. I feel limited. But look at the price. The price for new arm mikrotik and the price of 15MB flash chip, 32MB, 64MB etc. The price for a greater flash is not so important, currently.@cainos
I have a basic question: what do you want to do with more free disk space?
The question is, why to develop packages if there is no space for them?
Re: Chateau LTE12 D53G-5HacD2HnD - Lack of storage space
And that is a on-going concern... But OP's packages currently fit, at least for now... And Chateau does have USB.Sadly the quoted part of reply by @Normis shows continuation of denial mode which MT adopted regarding the 16MB flash space on not-so-ancient ARM devices.When buying a device, pay atention to available resources, if you wish to put a lot of custom config on the device.
So if logging is the issue, add a USB flash drive and set the log topics to use usb disk. Everything else EXCEPT upgrade package should be configurable to use an external disk.
Not to dismiss the concern about 16MB, it's just dumb but also not "fixable" — other than Mikrotik keeping package sizes small. And it is fair point: they advertise ZeroTier and container and MQTT – but you can't use all three because of the way they broken things up (or rather didn't break things up).
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