Chateau 5G R16 can host the HomeAssistant app, which allows monitoring your CCTV cameras, temperature sensors, and other devices to create the smart home ecosystem of your dreams!

I was looking forward to see OmniTIK 5 PoE AX, LHG XL 52 ax and wAP ax.
Apparently, non yet (if at all).

EDIT:
Also, Chateau 5G R16 - 16MB storage ? Seriously ? In 2024. ?

- APA-1 overvoltage protection

Thank you, Normis

- APA-1 overvoltage protection

What a coincidence, we were discussing this only a few days ago, having a good quality leveling power supply for automotive is a good thing::
viewtopic.php?p=1050866
didn't know it existed from Mikrotik:
https://mikrotik.com/product/apa_1

WiFi6 Vending Machines hahahahahaha Qaulity

Also, Chateau 5G R16 - 16MB storage ? Seriously ? In 2024. ?

Serves you coffee and serves wifi to your kids or younger co-workers. Everybody happy.

/vm/coffee/addition/sugar
add spoon=1 comment=1 spoon
/vm/coffee/addition/other/milk
add do-not-serve-black=yes ml=10 soy-milk=no name=with_milk
add do-not-serve-black=no ml=0 soy-milk=no name=black comment="defconf"
/vm/other/nonbeverages
add liquid=no bar=yes
...

And don't forget there will be special package to install in case it's installed in vending machine

Serves you coffee and serves wifi to your kids or younger co-workers. Everybody happy.

And it is easy to configure:

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/vm/coffee/addition/sugar
add spoon=1 comment=1 spoon
/vm/coffee/addition/other/milk
add do-not-serve-black=yes ml=10 soy-milk=no name=with_milk
add do-not-serve-black=no ml=0 soy-milk=no name=black comment="defconf"
/vm/other/nonbeverages
add liquid=no bar=yes
...

/vm/container
add type=coffee name=base-coffee
/vm/container/configuration
add coffeine=yes name=recipe1 grind-size=10 grind-time=8s shot-time=25 brew-ratio=2.1
/vm/coffee
add container=base-coffee configuration=recipe1 name=espresso

WiFi6 Vending Machines hahahahahaha Qaulity

Serves you coffee and serves wifi to your kids or younger co-workers. Everybody happy.

Now I understand what market MikroTik products from v7 are aimed at...

mANTBox ax for WISP without any CPE (except "Build your own") is completely useless...

Suggested price $299.00

Suggested price $485.00

MT, can you explain to us why you are so in love with such small 16 MB flash?

Bill Gates said: you don't need more than 640kB.

Probably because they bought a truly excessive quantity during COVID, due to the shortage of supplies of materials,
which now have to put them everywhere to dispose of them and cover the costs incurred to buy them.

When I initially "discovered" ...

Fact: The design used for that processor prevented it from using more than 640kB of memory.

So someone decided that limit, it could be there, but the worst thing was that it was FORCED TO MAINTAIN IT even afterwards, for "decades"...

Fact: The design used for that processor prevented it from using more than 640kB of memory.

So someone decided that limit, it could be there, but the worst thing was that it was FORCED TO MAINTAIN IT even afterwards, for "decades"...

Outdoor AP's cover both WISP and WiFi needs. Better to get those out and on the market because it reaches a wider audience. Likewise, a WISP can start upgrading their sites (since it's backwards compatible) in preparation for CPEs to come.

Outdoor AP's cover both WISP and WiFi needs. Better to get those out and on the market because it reaches a wider audience. Likewise, a WISP can start upgrading their sites (since it's backwards compatible) in preparation for CPEs to come.

Am I missing something? The new ax hardware is not backwards compatible with older devices (4 address frame format differs between wireless and wifiwave2 drivers).

Was hoping for Hex S replacement with form factor of Hex S and specs of hAP ax2 minus Wi-Fi plus SFP+ and USB 3.0

L009 replaces RB2011, it is for people who need 2GHz. We have plenty of other devices for those who need 5GHz.

CRS is a switch, why do you need RAM at all in there ?

L009 replaces RB2011, it is for people who need 2GHz. We have plenty of other devices for those who need 5GHz.

Actually, not that many. There is no real product "for the higher-end home user" with 8+ switch ports and modern WiFi.
The 4011 is not well supported, the 5009 has no WiFi, the hAP ax3 has too few switchports.
I think you should make a successor to the 4011 (the 5011?) that has fully supported WiFi, similar flash and RAM, 10 ports of which 5 are 2.5Gbps, an SFP+ that supports DAC, and a USB port.

..
CRS is a switch, why do you need RAM at all in there ?

CRS is a switch, do not use it as your main router

More RAM helps at buffering the traffic, at my understanding.

CRS is a switch, do not use it as your main router

- I support a CRS312 that has 64 MB of RAM and the switch every week and half reboots randomly. Checking I see that memory usage gets max until the switch reboots. I don't have that issue with a CRS326 that has 512 MB RAM. My solution? Put a script to reboot daily the switch but this is not an elegant solution and brings other collateral problems but at least the switch doesn't reboot at the middle of the day affecting all the connected users.

- Being on a time that RAM and Storage are on the Gigabytes and very affordable I don't get why Mikrotik nickels and dimes these critical components.

Like I said, these new versions feels more like a downgrade as even the RouterOS supports everything you want, if the Hardware cannot support it is a Dead on Arrival.

It even feels counter intuitive that the most expensive and high-end CRS5xx series feels crippled compared to the lower-end series due to lesser cpu/memory/storage (1core/64/16 & 1core/128/32) vs (2core/1Gb/16 & 1core/512Mb/16)

I do feel that 64MB of RAM is on the low side for ROS7.

aMore RAM helps at buffering the traffic, at my understanding.

True, you should not upgrade that kind of vintage device to RouterOS v7 unless you are prepared to live with performance issues.

Too bad the CRS326-24S+2Q+RM is delivered from factory with RouterOSv7 and 64MB of RAM.

The best we can say about these devices being released today with too little storage and RAM is that it will force Mikrotik to optimise the software, and then everybody will benefit.

Actually, not that many. There is no real product "for the higher-end home user" with 8+ switch ports and modern WiFi.
The 4011 is not well supported, the 5009 has no WiFi, the hAP ax3 has too few switchports.
I think you should make a successor to the 4011 (the 5011?) that has fully supported WiFi, similar flash and RAM, 10 ports of which 5 are 2.5Gbps, an SFP+ that supports DAC, and a USB port.

fine, but that product is not the L009.

Based on the information from their site, recommended minimal requirements are:

2 GB RAM
32 GB Storage

Recommended does not mean set in stone, and we will be running this on L009UiGS that has 512 MB RAM and a USB slot for the required storage. It is advised using recommended hardware specifications, but for testing, and low amounts of data, you can get by with 512+ MB RAM.

Chateau 5G R16 can host the HomeAssistant app, which allows monitoring your CCTV cameras, temperature sensors, and other devices to create the smart home ecosystem of your dreams!

We already informed Marketing that they exaggerated in this case.

fine, but that product is not the L009.

and will surely cost at least 2x the price and the yelling and whining will go on and on.... it's with the people. there will always be something to dick about.

300 euro for a 5011 with specs as I hinted would be a good deal.

For 2x the price I would be happy. I bought a 4011 for 2x the price of a L009 but I get an orphaned device. And it is still being sold today!
300 euro for a 5011 with specs as I hinted would be a good deal.

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Can we expect new "Ethernet routers" ?
Something with better CPU, RAM and so on ? Like 1GB memory ? x64 bit 4 cores or more ?

Can we expect new "Ethernet routers" ?
Something with better CPU, RAM and so on ? Like 1GB memory ? x64 bit 4 cores or more ?

Like CCR2004-16G-2S+? Maybe CCR2004-16G-2S+PC?

You forgot about the RB50009!

Can we expect new "Ethernet routers" ?
Something with better CPU, RAM and so on ? Like 1GB memory ? x64 bit 4 cores or more ?

Like CCR2004-16G-2S+? Maybe CCR2004-16G-2S+PC?

Even hAP ax² matches the requirements with 4 core 64 bit CPU and 1 GB RAM...

May be you don't understand the direction. Applying for a router, not a wireless one!

May be you don't understand the direction. Applying for a router, not a wireless one!

That is not surprising because your question is completely unclear! You ask for a new device and think all existing devices that fit the bill are not right for you...

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That is not surprising because your question is completely unclear! You ask for a new device and think all existing devices that fit the bill are not right for you...

If you red carefully my post above you will see that I am applying exactly for a "Ethernet routers"

And when I (and others) give you examples of "Ethernet routers" you come back with "no, not those. others...".
Because you did not specify "Ethernet routers" and you reject examples of both "Ethernet routers" and "Ethernet+WiFi routers".
I hope you understand that the situation (which may be very clear inside your own head) is very unclear to everyone else.

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I was hoping for LHG ax - remember the higher "ax" data rates need better SNR, so high gain is more important than it was for "n". And, please also support WiFi 6E (up to 7 GHz) and dual-band ax/ay with 60 GHz ay for high speed and 5 GHz ax as a backup.
Also, the new ax AP is not a real drop-in replacement until it is also compatible with older n/ac devices in station-bridge mode. All of my WISP CPEs are in station-bridge mode (bridging PPPoE to the customer's home/office router - more secure to keep the device roles separate, wireless CPE is only managed by the WISP and the router can be managed by the customer). Older APs also support WDS compatible with UBNT M5 series CPEs - plain old 802.11n (no TDMA, but RTS enabled) is necessary in this case, but it works well enough if there aren't too many CPEs connected at the same time. I think it is really important to keep over-the-air station-bridge (and WDS too if possible) compatibility for the new devices to be real drop-in replacements. With some more work it could also use a single new implementation of the bridge (currently, there are two - the other one hidden in wireless AP, where each connected station is a bridge port, but there is no easy way to see the MAC table etc. as it was in the old WDS).
It's a pity with all these new ever faster WiFi standards that bridge/WDS is still not a standard feature that works even between different vendors, I know no one cares about WISPs anymore but it's not the only use for that, connecting wired-only devices (and whole networks, without ugly "MAC address translation" hacks) to WiFi is another.

@sirbryan
Bad idea to buy a product without knowing if they will put the remaining part on the market and without any test that all parts (AP+CPE) are working as expected...
Would you buy an electric car first, without knowing if they would ever make batteries for that model?

But you're right about one thing: I can't buy the new products.
The new ones are NOT compatible with nv2 and do not have nv3
(and although the MikroTik staff claims that 802.11ac works better, it seems that they have never seen the devices in the field).

So, if to mount the external APs in ax, I'm forced to put 802.11 in the ac CPEs because I lose nv2 and I'm forced to change the CPEs for use the "ax" advantages...
and I can't leave the running panel on "ac" because the frequencies are not infinite...

At this point, for me, if there is no longer the possibility of using the NV2 on the devices already installed (which are almost all "ac"),
it is better new installations to be done with the "competitors'" system" which I have already started using for 3 years,
but apart from the software which sucks (really s–t), the hardware does its job.
Customers don't care what the CPE administrative GUI looks like, they just care about if the connection work or not.

In fact, it is indicative that in the last 2 years I have not bought any more MikroTik CPEs, but only core routers, poe switch and indoor access points...

From a wifi point of view, here in Italy, MikroTik initially spread mainly as WISP devices, for years it has been like this, now it seems to want to specialize for APs inside the home... for geeks.
It is very far from having a fairly stupid and functional GUI like other competitors that the standard user prefers, and then it's always years behind its competitors.
and the large ISPs certainly do not mount MikroTik equipment, but make customized supply agreements with companies famous for the low cost and value of the equipment.