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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:19 pm

RouterOS can produce some really big log messages now.
Would it be possible when opening a log message window, instead of having a very long window to have the message instead have automatic line breaks to fit in the box vertically?
Additionally, would it be possible to have the same line break feature when selecting the log message in the logs window if it's too long to fit horizontally?
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:21 pm

Where and how can I switch between open windows? Is it really that hard to implement? You could add a full taskbar at the bottom of the main window, just above the status bar, like in Microsoft Windows. For widescreen monitors, this would be much more convenient than the way it was done in Winbox version 3.x. Also, please add a keyboard shortcut to cycle through open windows. Thanks for making it multiplatform—we’ve been waiting for this for years.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:32 am

Not sure when it was fixed, but beta8 is working correctly with RADIUS credentials.
In dark mode, selection highlight in some input fields (like filter box) is very difficult to distinguish, at least on macOS (and I have higher-end displays that are rather color-accurate).

I would still like some additional way to filter/sort the Connection screen; a tree or folders would be really helpful, but I don't expect that to happen during this beta period. 😉

I am not a fan of all of the wasted space on the right side of many windows either, but that is a relatively minor complaint. MT team is doing great work here, keep it up!
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:13 am


This means that beta releases of Winbox should not be used to manage remote devices/systems.
Hold on. If you enter a command into the Terminal, it's the CLI that deleted those things, not poor WinBox! WinBox4 is just running a terminal session for you. It's the find command that not doing what you expect, and may be a different problem. Winbox3 would do same here, since it's just running same terminal to RouterOS shell.
Amm0, I enjoy the humor lol. I had some time to try & reproduce this on a test router. Loaded up some dynamic lists. Ran the command & it worked as intended. Tried it roughly 10 times. Must've just been a fluke one off, that severely angered me. Back to using Winbox4 beta...
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:42 am

Must've just been a fluke one off, that severely angered me. Back to using Winbox4 beta...
FWIW, if that's in some scheduled script, I'd add some "... print" before remove - just possibly prevent stale/in-flight config/realtime data from being used (i.e. kinda like F5 in winbox gets a refresh /ip/tables...). It's not first report of dynamic=yes troubles in address-list since it's a lot of dynamic data...
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:30 am

Must've just been a fluke one off, that severely angered me. Back to using Winbox4 beta...
FWIW, if that's in some scheduled script, I'd add some "... print" before remove - just possibly prevent stale/in-flight config/realtime data from being used (i.e. kinda like F5 in winbox gets a refresh /ip/tables...). It's not first report of dynamic=yes troubles in address-list since it's a lot of dynamic data...
Amm0, thanks for that info. That's good to know for sure. I did run it from scripts, not scheduled though. I edit the name of the list I want to delete & just run it.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:52 am

Yes, Windows 7 was released in 2009, which is 15 years ago. To run WinBox 4 you need Windows 10.
LibreOffice even the latest version can still run on Windows 7. Just an example of large and complex software where this was still possible. Is this really so difficult? I now have Windows 10 on one machine but I don't like it. If there is no other way, will rather migrate the old but still usable machines from Win7 to Debian instead. Please reconsider.
+1. It doesn't matter, when it was released, it's still used on lots of machines.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:55 am

... You could add a full taskbar at the bottom of the main window, just above the status bar, like in Microsoft Windows. ...
This would be great, I like this feature in Android app.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:56 am

RouterOS can produce some really big log messages now.
Would it be possible when opening a log message window, instead of having a very long window to have the message instead have automatic line breaks to fit in the box vertically?
Additionally, would it be possible to have the same line break feature when selecting the log message in the logs window if it's too long to fit horizontally?
And/or a copy to clipboard button ...
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:09 am


OS / version give more clues... Did it work in previous beta before?
No, it has never worked... winbox4 never worked.. 3.xx is working.. .it is windows10, 22H2 Version...
There are no additional infos.. when i click on winbox4.exe.. it happenes nothing!
Adding a screenshot of the processes...
No hints whatsoever? Again, i can not start winbox 4 b8. I see it in the processes but the app does not open...
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:29 am

Thanks for WinBox 4.

Praises:

- Dark Mode - YaY
- Global Inline / hide password settings
- Resources default to being displayed (old versions you had to add each individual piece)
- Tabbed view is back :)


Some suggestions:

- Could you add Router architecture and version back to title bar? I see it at the bottom, but title bar area is where I'm used to looking for at a glance.
- Log - Red/blue missing from critical and warning messages.
- Can't adjust comment column width initially, have to click the column header first, then it allows to adjust width. Should be able to adjust immediately like the other columns.
- Clicking the Comments column header appears to have 3 different modes based on the icon change. But doesn't explain what they are.
- Multiple selections - Can't hold shift and use arrows to make multiple row selections
- Column ordering - Can't drag columns left or right to make custom order
- Search/Find missing
- Right click menu - Show Categories and Detail Mode Missing
- Notes - Missing show at CLI login option
- Connection (opening window) - Group/Note/RoMon Agent columns seems to be missing
- Connection (opening window) - Open in new window missing
- Disconnect button at top is missing hover-over tooltip to explain what it is. I know now what it is, but helpful for first time users.
- Don't forget about BSD, I use all platforms. All good for different reasons/purposes. Would be nice to have at least a FreeBSD binary.
- WinBox 3 and older seems more responsive. I do a lot of administering remotely, desktop sharing. WinBox 3 was very light and optimized. It's one of the most responsive programs that's still maintained today. Could WinBox 4 continue that responsiveness? One of MikroTik's strengths is how responsive WinBox is. Probably a result of it still being in beta. But just wanted to mention it before it gets too far. Hate seeing when software is revamped, but the best features of old versions are lost.


Maybe check others opinions on these suggestions:

Alternating row background colors is good, but kinda miss grid lines. Maybe a good way to make everyone happy, have it in settings to toggle on/off these. Be able to use it however; make them independent of the other choice. So user could have them on or off, both on, both off, however they like.

The New, Enable, Disable, Remove order to me seems harder to at a glance see. I know you're trying to put remove at the end because it's distructive. But New and Remove grouped together, then some separation space, then Enable and Disable grouped together makes more sense to me. Disable is usually a temporary action that is reversed by enable. So I feel those grouped together makes sense. Creating and remove is also related, so I think those grouped together makes more sense than putting the other options between them.

Comments input box are single line in Winbox4. Winbox3 and older were multiple lines. Might mess some people's comments up.

Lots of right-click actions missing. Most are still there, but accessed a different way. But maybe see if others want multiple ways to access those options.


Good work. Not complaining, just trying to provide feedback/constructive criticism.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sun Sep 29, 2024 1:51 am

Up until... 4.6? Recently, anyway. If I resized the main window - not the internal "sub windows" - the program crashed. Not anymore - this is getting better and better!
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:37 am

Would be really nice if we also get genuine mac-telnet text mode application from Mikrotik...
Second this

There has been progress with the community version. It's back working now. But not being directly from MikroTik, it's subject to breaking without notice at anytime, and no ETA on fix. Not the community's fault. And not MikroTik's fault. Just the way things happen when two groups aren't working together.

Can launch terminal directly from dude. Which is a nice feature. But that's not pure CLI only. It's GUI based.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:42 pm

@normis Winbox 4 beta 6

Can't add new interface lists. I can create them in the terminal and then add / remove members in Winbox but can't create a new list.
works in beta8
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:02 pm

For what is the "Workspace", when I can't sort items according to this list???
And again, I still can't save devices with the same IP address in different workspace/location...
Why?
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:27 pm

Latest Beta and still incorrect czech language. In old version was all fine.
Still get this icons: ???? meanwhile this : ěščřžýáíé
Thank you very much for repair it.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:35 am

Have updated to Beta 8, still getting error "Could not connect, MacConnection syn timeout" when trying to access a device via L2.

I don't have firewall enabled on my mac.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:52 am

Latest Beta and still incorrect czech language. In old version was all fine.
Still get this icons: ???? meanwhile this : ěščřžýáíé
Thank you very much for repair it.
You need to enter the text again. Importing of text that was entered in WinBox3 will not be supported, as the old WinBox did not store text properly.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:53 am

Have updated to Beta 8, still getting error "Could not connect, MacConnection syn timeout" when trying to access a device via L2.

I don't have firewall enabled on my mac.
Is the router directly connected to your compuer, or there are devices in between? In general MAC address connection works fine, so it is something with your setup. Note that the MAC connection should ONLY be used for recovery, not as a daly way to connect.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:54 am

For what is the "Workspace", when I can't sort items according to this list???
And again, I still can't save devices with the same IP address in different workspace/location...
Why?
Workspace has no relation to your IP. It is a way to organize windows. You can make a Workspace for managing wireless settings, and save only wireless, logs, scan window etc. to be opened. IT will work regardless of device you are connected to. You can connect to a router, and then switch between workspaces while still connected to the same router.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:57 am

korg - we can't help with this information. It works for others using the same operating system, so it could be something in your computer that is causing the issue. try to disable antivirus, firewall, check if you have administratative privileges. Try another PC.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:42 am

Excellent work.
Special thanks for the dark mode.
Desirable improvements:
- enable the "windows" menu item to switch between windows
- apply one workspace to many connections at once
- ability to import and export all program settings, including: hotkeys, hosts, workspaces, ...
- when selecting text in the terminal - immediately copy it to the clipboard (for example, like in putty)
- authorization window: add "groups" to additional host properties
- authorization window: display all columns in the saved hosts table, like in neighbors

Waiting for fixes. I don't use the old version anymore.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:58 pm

Today I checked out the new version and it looks awesome! 👍
Let me add my two cents about my expectations.
I look how many people also wrote about the need to return groups to the main menu but it would be great better if there was an option to add the necessary columns by yourself. And I really looking forward to finally being able to make a full-fledged portable version via .ini file or something like that!
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:16 pm

For what is the "Workspace", when I can't sort items according to this list???
And again, I still can't save devices with the same IP address in different workspace/location...
Why?
Workspace has no relation to your IP. It is a way to organize windows. You can make a Workspace for managing wireless settings, and save only wireless, logs, scan window etc. to be opened. IT will work regardless of device you are connected to. You can connect to a router, and then switch between workspaces while still connected to the same router.
Ok, now when I know how, it works ;-)
But, it will be very helpful if it were possible to save and sort devices (IP addresses) according to locations/Sites.
Currently, it is not possible to save different devices (with different credentials) with the same IP address.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:03 pm

This problem does not appear when connecting to devices with 7.16 on them
referring to the torch tcpmux problem, I can confirm that the problem is gone on 7.16... not the solution I was hoping for, but...
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:37 pm

feature request - Support Apple Passwords/Keychain/Secure Enclave to store RouterOS username/passwords

Since we now have a native app, it be nice if I could read/store the RouterOS creds with all my other passwords in the Keychain used by iOS/MacOS. To me, this is more secure, than some encrypted file - but just my opinion (& not saying it should replace the file-based scheme).

But for your users in the Apple ecosystem... this allow the same credential store to be used with both winbox and webfig and Apple-based mobile apps (if done right). Since Apple can sync the keychain between devices, this allow for "automatic sharing" of the RouterOS passwords, regardless of the interface (webfig, WinBox4, apps) - at least between Apple devices using them. WinBox would need to make the right call to read/store the password in Keychain, but iCloud/MacOS/iOS will deal with them from there.

And since there may be one stored from webfig already (since it already support keychain via Safari doing it for webfig) - even if WinBox4 just read those keychain-saved one, that be helpful – even if it did not have the feature to write them (initially ;)).

i.e. if some future WinBox4 on MacOS used keychain & iCloud Keychain was enabled(which I think is a default)... Then the BTH / mobile app could use the ones saved by WinBox4 (or webfig).
 
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Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:52 pm

Excellent work!
I just noticed a bug. In Winbox 4.0beta8, the Bridge Port in IP-DHCP Server-Leases shows unknown, while it is normal in Winbox 3.41.
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:04 am

Hi Normis,

Do you have an ETA for adding the following features?
 - Missing tree view of sub-items in tables, like VLANs, Queues, etc.
 - Log, Ping etc. windows don't automatically go to end of entries
As you indicated in your first post, the changes must be "agile" since you programmed it from scratch.

Thanks.
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:42 am

I will stay with current "ugly" version of winbox. I am too old (43), to change habits. This new version of winbox looks like cheep Chinese web interface for some 20EUR aliexpress router. Generally, I cant understand why everybody have intention to broke something that works well, Microsoft, Apple, Cpanel/Plesk..... The existence of product is becoming the purpose of the own. New features, optimizations, cross platform and again optimization should be the main goal, not new looking style. All IT industry, after been take over from boys and girls with nice haircut and nice dressing, going to hell. I miss time when enthusiastic engineers decide what is good and what is bad and what is going out to public. This version of winbox look like cheep ugly web tool.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:48 am

Honestly, I see nothing wrong with old Winbox (I saved 3.41 just in case Mikrotik decide to pull it off the download page) but times are changing and Mikrotik is targeting professionals as well as home users and they love fancy GUI, one touch wizards etc etc. so they need to stay in the race with other brands. (Look at ubiquiti, tp link, alta labs for eg.)
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:01 am

What's new in v4.0beta9:

- return ESC shortcut to close sub windows
- add support for Groups for Saved router list in Login window
- add support to import Saved address list .cdb file (NOTE: old .wbx file type is deprecated. This means exported Winbox 3 file won't work, use .cdb file).
- add support for opening (changing database path) Saved address lists in login view
- fix crash when restoring workspace where opened object's id has changed its type
- Login window improved layout of saving password versus remembering last used password
- restore comment field text in Login view when reopening window
- store selected Workspace for Saved routers, and restore when selecting (in Login view)
- make form background a little bit lighter in light mode
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:09 am

I have no saved addresses and beta9 shows me "Loading address db failed:" on each run.
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:17 am

Thank you for finally adding the ESC to close windows, please add SEARCH [FIND] box on the sub windows
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:19 am

Hi Normis,

It is possible that the firmware version also appears in Neighbors list?

Thanks,
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:32 am

Any kind of router, Tp-link, UBQ, Netgear... will never be configured by any people who does not now what are they doing.
Only out of the box plug and play devices will be used by home users. If I took my neighboring peoples (wife, kids, relatives, parents...) They don't know anything beyond search for WIFI SSID and type password for that network. Setting up mail client is biond any kind of comprehensive knowledge. Migrating from one android phone to another is out of question and they always looking for someone other to do their current problem. Working meny years in high level of IT support even highly educated people are idiots for anything out of their job. If you move icon of AutoCAD from upper left do down right corner that’s it, they will call you and start shouting at you that they can’t do their job. In recent years I have a lot of jobs for IT companies who hire a hundred of programing business peoples, software developing companies. Those super workers don’t know to make 10 clicks to create vpn, or to configure email client, not now even with detailed instructions how to map network drive or some simple jobs. And I am in IT word sine late '90. Hero times. sorry. No need for Mikrotik or any other to make stuff for home users, or to do "nice" things for us because in any way or other the job will be done by some1 who is piss off by changing the way the tools are working for last 20 years.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:45 am

What's new in v4.0beta9:
I always check logs and disappointed that the log window still does not scroll with up-arrow-keys down-arrow-keys plus the log window should always open at last log entry
For me Logs is a priority ,,, hopefully its a priority with your dev team ...

So the up-arrow-keys down-arrow-keys do not scroll ANY of the windows .... wow ... I guess the keyboard has a lot of work yet to be done ... shocking !!!
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:46 am

markom, Winbox4 has no "nice" wizard and tutorial things in it. It has all the same functionality as Winbox3, so please take your baseless complaints elsewhere.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:05 pm

@normis. This is not " your baseless complaints".
Sorry to hurt your filings with my opinion as customer, to your new product.
Winbox4 is slow to work with, ugly by my personal opinion and unnecessary waste of your time witch can be used for more bug fix and optimization.
But on the other hand I now that you have app design department and they need to justify they monthly income.
That's it I am leaving the chat about this topic.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:16 pm

Winbox 4 does not introduce any feature or anything for a "home user". As the super-pro user since '90 you can still find the settings where they have been in Winbox 3.x. Ridiculous complaint.
If you move icon of AutoCAD from upper left do down right corner that’s it, they will call you and start shouting at you that they can’t do their job.
This is the funny double standards part: complaining about people getting lost when AutoCAD icon is not located at usual position on their desktop. But on the other hand freaking out, when Mikrotik applies a new GUI on Winbox - where fundamental functionality wasn't changed at all.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:52 pm

@normis. This is not " your baseless complaints".
Sorry to hurt your filings with my opinion as customer, to your new product.
Well, it is baseless when it is a complaint about winbox functionality, as winbox is just a GUI on top of RouterOS functionality.
I certainly see how MikroTik could benefit from a wizard-based configuration capability of their routers, to make them competing with other manufacturers, but at this moment that is not the scope of winbox.
(maybe in the future?)
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:31 pm

@markom does anyone force you to use winbox 4?
Still you have options to use winbox 3.
Be honest for some troubleshooting i found easy to work on winbox3, but the new one looks pretty solid
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:32 pm

Thank you for all the hard work and improvements Mikrotik crew.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:42 pm

@normis not a big request, but could you post the new release in exact the same format as routerOS? like this:
What's new in v4.0beta9:

*) return ESC shortcut to close sub windows;
*) add support for Groups for Saved router list in Login window;
*) add support to import Saved address list .cdb file (NOTE: old .wbx file type is deprecated. This means exported Winbox 3 file won't work, use .cdb file).;
*) add support for opening (changing database path) Saved address lists in login view;
*) fix crash when restoring workspace where opened object's id has changed its type;
*) Login window improved layout of saving password versus remembering last used password;
*) restore comment field text in Login view when reopening window;
*) store selected Workspace for Saved routers, and restore when selecting (in Login view);
*) make form background a little bit lighter in light mode;
Where *) are small changes and !) are larger or important changes. Also add ; at end of line.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:56 pm

Yes YES YES yes YES!! Yeppy!!!!

Groups are a requirement for most consultants to organize their router list :) Thank you MikroTik!!!

And ESC shortcut is just icing on the cake!!

I think I can start using this now!!

What's new in v4.0beta9:

- return ESC shortcut to close sub windows
- add support for Groups for Saved router list in Login window
- add support to import Saved address list .cdb file (NOTE: old .wbx file type is deprecated. This means exported Winbox 3 file won't work, use .cdb file).
- add support for opening (changing database path) Saved address lists in login view
- fix crash when restoring workspace where opened object's id has changed its type
- Login window improved layout of saving password versus remembering last used password
- restore comment field text in Login view when reopening window
- store selected Workspace for Saved routers, and restore when selecting (in Login view)
- make form background a little bit lighter in light mode
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:04 pm

Congrats on the new WinBox! Love it so far, and I think it's going to turn out great.

I would love to see tabs for different connections. E.g. instead of having to open new windows for each connection, having them all grouped in a tab bar would be great. Similar to how it works with browsers. So having the option to use windows or tabs depending on what you prefer.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:08 pm

In winbox 9, at quick set menu, Local clients section is empty (I tested winbox 4 beta 9 linux version)
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:55 pm

Would it be possible to do some "range" update function? Like update several interfaces with same update information. Or add multipl interfaces to bridge?
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:17 pm

- return ESC shortcut to close sub windows
I like the ESC to close — but my issue is that is closes dialogs that are dirty (have changes, but no "apply").

ESC should not close a dialog if it causes data loss. Perhaps it could prompt to apply it before closing would work too. But right now ESC is too aggressive at closing.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:23 pm

Good point, Amm0
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:15 pm

UPD: I found, that the bug with lines thickness that I mentioned in #993 (viewtopic.php?t=210505&start=900#p1097187) is only visible on scaled displays. In my case it's 150%. With 100% scale there is no problem. I mean system scaling, not WinBox scaling.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:21 pm

That is not a bug, that is a feature of scaled displays. When you scale a single-pixel line by 150%, what else is it supposed to do than randomly making it 1 or 2 pixels thick?
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:28 pm

I found one small issue. When I am creating logging action in /system/logging/action via GUI in Winbox4, and leave Syslog severity empty, Winbox4 produces this:
/system logging action add bsd-syslog=yes name=syslog1 remote=1.1.1.1 syslog-facility=local6 syslog-severity=emergency target=remote

If I do the same in old Winbox3, result is this:
/system logging action add bsd-syslog=yes name=syslog1 remote=1.1.1.1 syslog-facility=local6 target=remote
I am quite unsure if it has some real effect. But I wonder why it behaves differently.
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:12 am

When I launch WinBox 4 beta 9 on Windows 10 Pro Version 22H2, it is locked into full screen mode and I cannot change it. Toggling the Maximize/RestoreDown button has no effect. I dropped back to WinBox 4 beta 8, and it does the same thing. Both versions work fine on Windows 11 Pro Version 23H2.
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:36 am

I have no saved addresses and beta9 shows me "Loading address db failed:" on each run.

Screenshot 2024-10-02 at 11.07.00.png
I'll double this one.
On Linux: had no saved addresses and it throws this error on every start.
On macOS: had 1 saved address, removed it(empty list now) - in this situation it does Not throw this error.

Basically: WinBox4 most probably needs to attempt to create a DB, even empty(the situation mentioned on macOS), if it doesn't exist, instead of throwing the error.
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:41 am

@normis, it's so good to see Winbox v4 moving ahead at pace.

I wonder whether you (MT) have considered creating a roadmap to show users which beta versions are expected to address bugs or issues that are still unresolved? The roadmap wouldn't have to have times associated with them, just an indication which beta version is likely to have the fix to specific reported issues.

Having such a roadmap would reduce the repetitive posts here because users would be able to see which beta is likely to address their issue.

For example, I'm really only waiting for the LTE signal graphs to come back, but if I could see that wasn't going to be addressed until v4beta11, then I wouldn't likely comment but wait until beta11. Similarly, if users were waiting for shortcuts to return, rather than continually requesting them they could just check the roadmap and see it should be addressed in, say, beta 12. It would save a lot of unnecessary repetition IMO.

Thoughts?

Cheers.
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:28 am

That is not a bug, that is a feature of scaled displays. When you scale a single-pixel line by 150%, what else is it supposed to do than randomly making it 1 or 2 pixels thick?
No comments... If you are not familiar with app development, pls don't post such a stupid assumptions.
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:51 pm

I am not finding windows in left side menu bar
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:47 pm

Now only RoMON agent field is missing from device list view...
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:45 pm

I somehow miss the point of a recent Group implementation? It allows just sorting / filtering, but - where is the ability to segment the list, e.g. using separators like with old Winbox, or a collapsible sections, as with mobile apps?
 
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Focus saved list password on start

Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:24 pm

Beta9 Request: If the Saved list is encrypted please start with the focus on the Saved list Password: field instead of Connect to.

Almost always if I create a New Winbox it's so I can connect to a different router in my encrypted saved list. Same thing at startup, I rarely connect to the same unit, and even if I did I need the saved list to retrieve the password anyway. This will save me from moving keys to mouse back to keys back to mouse.

BTW, the new "Remember password" vs "Save to list with password" layout works great! Thanks, beta9 is working well!
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:37 pm

Great design, but i'm still waiting for simple queues sorting by names like winbox 3. Check the images below...
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:42 pm

Where is the ability to segment the list, e.g. using separators like with old Winbox...
Yes. This!

While I'm incredibly thankful for the group's return, it seems unfinished without the v3 type separators. Please add separators to help define groupings.

Cheers.
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:56 pm

I am trying to use the new Winbox 4 for 3rd time now in 10 days, so far not working for me.

1. I managed to import somehow my address-list with more than 500 devices. But WBX files don't work ? ( old format )

2. when I have list imported, I can't search in it. I see some idea for filter, but it does not work for me at all. Spend more than 20 mins looking and fooling arround - no joy.

So far so good, going back to winbox3 - and waiting.


I think you guys really need to check transition between v3 and v4 - all mirkotik core users here use winbox for years, so we need to transfer our old lists to the new v4 and then we can check and test. So far this is very hard.
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:05 am

I1. I managed to import somehow my address-list with more than 500 devices. But WBX files don't work ? ( old format )
Normis addressed this in the release notes of beta9. Scroll back a bit, you'll see it there.
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:38 am

Greetings normis. Updated to beta9 on MacOS 15.0.1. The firewall address list. If sorting the list, and you go to another tab, the list defaults to alphabetical order. The sorting isn't being saved. I don't believe it was doing this prior to beta8, but noticed it in beta8 & is the same in beta9.

Thanks for the improvements. Winbox4 beta is shaping nicely. Visibility in light mode is much better
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:41 am

Unable to repeat the issue, sorted filter rules by interface, went to NAT, went back to filter, rules still sorted by interface. Maybe something specific in your case, email some screenshots to support please
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:46 am

WinBox 4.0 beta 9, on Linux (Debian/i3) still has a problem with window selection. If I click on a foreground window, and there is another window underneath it, it selects the background window underneath it instead.
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:56 am

dave3, could you include more info, what window manager are you using, OS version etc. and send a video to support?
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:50 pm

I'm using Debian 12 with the i3 window manager. I opened a ticket and sent a video to support. Thanks.
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:19 pm

Unable to repeat the issue, sorted filter rules by interface, went to NAT, went back to filter, rules still sorted by interface. Maybe something specific in your case, email some screenshots to support please

Greetings normis. I was referring to the firewall filter address-lists, not the rules. Sort the address list by IP. Go into another tab, the address-list will revert back to alphabetical order.

Default view - IP's are out of order, not sorted in numerical order, only in alphabetical list-name order.
Screenshot 2024-10-04 at 8.16.37 AM.png

Sorted by IP & then list-name alphabetical order. Look at both the list-name & IP's, they are in order.
Screenshot 2024-10-04 at 8.17.29 AM.png

Go to another tab & back to address-list, and it reverts back to list-name alphabetical order. The IP's are no longer in numerical order.
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Beta9 Request: Improve Context Menu Availability

Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:48 pm

Beta9 Request: Improve Context Menu Availability
There are a few places that context menus are missing items or missing altogether where they would be very useful (edit: as I write this I realize that most of these can be generally applied instead of just the cases I list)
  • Firewall Rules only have "Action" but are missing Enable/Disable, New, New Here (above), Duplicate, Duplicate Here, Comment, Remove
  • Firewall Address Lists especially needs "Duplicate"
  • Bridge Ports needs "Duplicate"
  • Default Config Display allows admins to select the config text but they can't copy it. Ideally we could edit it right there but at least copy is needed.
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:04 pm

SOOOOO grateful to be able to get to my dropbox where now I can load and manage my lists in realtime.. so that has me definitely working with it a lot more..

But I do Miss "Windows" so I could flip back and forth between windows/terminals that im working on.. Maybe there is a way to do it now but I have been messing with it and I can not get it
 
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Beta9 Apply/Ok Multiple Stacked Windows

Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:06 pm

In Beta9 if I have created a bunch of Address List entries (lets say 7) by using the Duplicate button and then I want to accept them all sequentially on the keyboard I would like to press enter 7 times.

When I do it only works for the first window, after which the next windows in the stack correctly gains focus (blue title bar) but pressing enter does nothing.

Apparently the enter key only works if a form element in the window is focused, but if only the window is focused pressing enter doesn't do anything.

Expected behavior: The enter key should be behave the same as pressing the OK button on the focused window, even if no form element is selected.

Incidentally Esc key still works so maybe use that as a reference for how to implement the Enter key.

I suggest that:
  • Esc -> Cancel
  • Enter -> OK
  • Control-Enter -> Accept (and don't close the window)
And just do that everywhere the buttons show up.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:05 am

Dear Mikrotik. Thank you for Beta9, it's getting better and better.

Here's the thing that annoys me. I'm using keyboard (up/down) here. The cursor line gets out of view and the window contents should just scroll to make it always visible.

As for the "comment confusion". For login page the comments (previously known as Note) should be inline (or configurable separately from the comments after logging in), i.e. in Winbox 3 the Note was just a column and it was great, but after logging in comments were preceding lines to which they belonged. Look for the screenshots below.


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Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:06 am

The progress of Winbox 4 beta versions is impressive. However, several issues still lead me to often use the older Winbox 3.x via Wine on macOS:
  • Quick search functionality is missing (already acknowledged, but critical);
  • Scrolling on macOS feels non-native and slow, both with a trackpad and mouse. While there is some inertia, it doesn't behave like other Mac applications, making the experience feel unnatural;
  • Firewall rule copying places the new rule at the end, not adjacent to the original;
  • No 'Select All' shortcut or UI element available;
  • When dragging multiple firewall rules, only the first line moves;
  • In firewall rule editing, sub-block states (e.g., 'Action') aren't preserved between edits. This was less problematic with the previous tab-based design, but with the new layout, it's more irritating to reopen these sections for each edit.
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:51 am

Features Request :

In interfaces window :
* add one tab per interfaces type, at this time there only a limited type, no ipipv6, no gre6, no eoip6 tab
* separate interfaces lists in a separate window, like done with switch content now splitted in 4 menus/4window
* separate detect-internet feature in a separate window too
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:18 am

After "Connect to RoMON" - need two "bottons":
- Refresh RoMON Neighbors
- Connect in New Window
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:14 am

the search button or find on <hotspot><user> seems not visible for example i want to find my generated users name and voucherscode hope this will be fix soon.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:40 am

Hi,
thanks for fixing
And when I click an item from the saved list, it automatically sets the "Keep password" - No, dont do that! I have the sessions in the encrypted list so that you have to authenticate first.

Can you also address these, please?
When I start WinBox, the password input for the saved session has no focus - so I have to click there first before typing.
After decrypting there is no focus on the list, so I cant use the arrow keys (and enter key) to select (and connect).
The theme is not used: I have hidden the "QuickSet", but WinBox displays the button in the menu.

And can you add different colors for kbps, Mbps, Gbps in the Interfaces List? (like the linux tool "dstat" http://dag.wiee.rs/home-made/dstat )
That would make it easier to recognize when the values/units change quickly.

Also I miss windows popping up centered - Can you add a button or something to center a window or to reset saved positions for a window-type?
And I dont see a window-switcher so when a window is hidden behind another one I cant bring it to front...
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:16 pm

We need the "find" search bar back. The 'find' makes life simple.
Its difficult to use this new version because its has no find. Using "filter" for "find" purposes is boring.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:34 am

Great work so far from the team,

Just a couple of things to note

- No secondary sort on login menu for saved routers. As a consultant i like to sort saved address by group then address.
- No indent for slave interfaces. e.g. when a vlan is on an interface it used to be indented under that interface in the all interfaces menu.
 
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Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:37 am

I just downloaded and ran this for the first time, and I have to say that it made me all juicy in the nether regions... Well done on an awesome looking update (not to mention a Linux-native app). :)
 
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Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:25 am

I can not connect to any ma routerboards in local network if I have configured proxy in Windows. Winbox don't need proxy for this connections. Winbox need proxy only for check new version of Winbox and update it.
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:53 pm

Firstly, it looks great I love it, and i'm almost using it full time now.

Picked up one small bug so far:
IP > Firewall > Connections, entries missing where there are lots of connections.
Old Winbox have a "There are too many records..." "Or click here..." message, but not on the new version.

I also would like a way to open, from the address list, into a new window directly.
This will ease up the amount of times I need to enter a password to gain access to the address list to log into another MikroTik.

Many thanks
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:52 pm

I can not connect to any ma routerboards in local network if I have configured proxy in Windows. Winbox don't need proxy for this connections. Winbox need proxy only for check new version of Winbox and update it.
I have the same issue, I am behind a proxy but Winbox port do not need a proxy. I did not find a way how to disable proxy in Winbox.
I hope Mikrotik will add a setting to disable proxy.
 
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Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:08 pm

IDK your OS... but why not exempt *.mikrotik.com in the network settings for the proxy?
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:58 pm

I also had [yet] another idea / feature request:

"Terminal" window should be dockable – similar to how a browser's "Inspect" window works (or VSCode, etc.). And since we lost "Windows" option on left to see the window list...my terminal windows keep getting lost behind a see of various other dialogs.

Related, arguable a bug
Re-sizing winbox smaller... you can getting "hidden"/unaccessible windows
Issue: This is kinda bad with "singleton windows" (where an existing window is re-used, /ip/address be one)... since it was opened before winbox getting shrunk, the window will not appear (since it's outside the current viewport).
Easy to repo: with big window move /ip/address to bottom right corner; shrunk windows; go to /ip/address from left – no window shows. If you forgot you made winbox4 small, you'd swear it didn't work.
Expected: If these "singleton windows" are re-selected and off-screen...they'd ideally moved to the current view.

2nd bug here
When winbox is too small to show all of the sandwich settings dialog... it does not scroll & some options become hidden below the bottom.
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:24 am

I also had [yet] another idea / feature request:

"Terminal" window should be dockable – similar to how a browser's "Inspect" window works (or VSCode, etc.). And since we lost "Windows" option on left to see the window list...my terminal windows keep getting lost behind a see of various other dialogs.
Exactly what is happening to me..
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:01 pm

Need colors in log. Like Red for errors and other.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:33 pm

Need colors in log. Like Red for errors and other.
+2
still not (re)implemented

and also finally a TIMEOUT when moving the mouse between menu items on the left (like, not instant. a short delay when moving between e.g. MPLS and Routing entries
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:38 pm

Please add control over using or not using system proxy setting.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:51 pm

Need colors in log. Like Red for errors and other.
+2
still not (re)implemented

and also finally a TIMEOUT when moving the mouse between menu items on the left (like, not instant. a short delay when moving between e.g. MPLS and Routing entries
+3
It also needs to be implemented as soon as possible:
Missing tree view of sub-items in tables, like VLANs, Queues, etc.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:45 am

Hello MikroTik guys,

I have been testing WinBox 4.0 beta9 and I see some stuff have improved since last time I tried. It is good that you have returned with the tabs and overall stability is better.

However, all in all I can't say that I like the new WinBox. It has some nice features, but is all does not feel like a tool for professionals, but like a toy like Aruba for example. My colleagues have the same opinion.

I wold pretty much preferred that you just changed the engine, make the new product look the same, but improved on few bits that needed work. That's it.
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:12 pm

Feature request : add connection to the device status... and don't close immediately winbox when connection is lost between winbox and device.
 
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Thu Oct 10, 2024 1:09 am

no color in the logs ( only black ).

I often do log using normal black lines.

I often log using something like :
log error "*** write a red line in the logs - something is down ***"
for a red line in my logs.

I often log using something like :
:log warning "*** write a blue line in the logs - something is on-line***"
for a blue line in my logs.
 
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Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:22 am

no color in the logs ( only black ).
+1 - Adding to @TomjNorthIdaho's point... it really does help operationally to quickly spot troubles. i.e. if you see a lot of red when scrolling logs, in just couple seconds... you know there is an issue.

On "colorization needs", I'd add:

- Log should parse ANSI color codes. I know Terminal ANSI support well, since my $PIANO script renders very nice in WinBox4. But WinBox3 never parsed ANSI code in logs... and some container end up with ANSI colors in log since "logs" often wired to stdout. This can sometimes be disabled, but it actually be better if WinBox4 actually support ANSI in log message.

- This one may be more controversial. Fonts always are. Perhaps the script/code editboxes (/system/script/source etc.) should use y'all standard JetBrain Mono font. I know winbox has historically used proportional fonts, but I don't think that's very easy to read. While the proportionally-spaced "Manrope" used for scripts does have same nifty -> ligature – which is a nice subtle touch – that however does not make it more readable for script code. I want monospaced font in those editboxes.

- Beyond fonts, but same /system/script (and similar) "code editbox"... While CLI "/system/script/edit script source" has supported colors – even with error-checking shown in reverse red when script is wrong – winbox has not ever. Given scripting has a learning curve & most new users likely use WinBox4's UI, than the Terminal — it's actually /system/script UI dialog where the colors and realtime error-checking be useful. Perhaps just a button to launch Terminal with current one show in Script dialog box opened be helpful. Anyway, the /system/script/edit is actually pretty useful to spot errors in scripts – but you get no help with that in any winbox today.
 
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Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:22 pm

Using "filter" for "find" purposes is boring.
Please simplify the Filter.

A bunch of parameters like:
in
not in
contains
contains not
is
not is

is confusing!

And they behave differently in different places

Found:
p1.png
Not Found:
p2.png
Found:
p3.png
Not Found:
p4.png
In most cases, what is of interest is the "occurrence" of the desired sequence.

In MAC addresses - searches by octets
In IP addresses - only the entire address
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Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:40 pm

does anyone know how to get tabs on sub menus, is there a setting I am missing? I see tabs on main menus but not sub menus (eg firewall rule), this is harder to view at a glance as you need to expand each section to see the action for example.

great work though otherwise.
 
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Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:32 pm

does anyone know how to get tabs on sub menus, is there a setting I am missing? I see tabs on main menus but not sub menus (eg firewall rule), this is harder to view at a glance as you need to expand each section to see the action for example.
Oh you're not missing anything, MT only changed the "top-level" ones. But I too hope that something is done with dialogs boxes "sections". Especially /ip/firewall rules - the Action section – you need every time – but it's at the bottom and hidden.

While the mob (include me) has moved on the lack of "hierarchal list boxes" in /interface, and colors.... The "webfig style dialogs" are very annoying and need at least some improvements – or tabs (or tab-like things) again...as many comments pages ago here.
 
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Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:54 pm

no color in the logs ( only black ).
+1
 
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Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:32 am

I'm afraid it will stay in that design paradigm (unusable). There are zero indications of upcoming reasonable design changes so far. It's simply webfig.
Cannot comprehend the praises in this topic.
 
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Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:54 am

Cannot comprehend the praises in this topic.
Because, some of us are not stuck in an immovable mind set unable to change.

I really like the way Winbox is evolving. Dark mode, and multi OS versions are winners and there will be more tweaks made to include missing features.

If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to use it and no one is forcing you to hang around on this thread. If it suits you better, stick with v.3.4.1. It isn't going anywhere.
 
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Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:55 am

Cannot comprehend the praises in this topic.
Because, some of us are not stuck with an immovable mind set unable to change.

I really like the way Winbox is evolving. Dark mode, and multi OS versions are winners and there will be more tweaks made to include missing features.

If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to use it and no one is forcing you to hang around on this thread. If it suits you better, stick with v.3.4.1. It isn't going anywhere.
 
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Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:50 am

Dark mode
means nothing if it's webfig-like interface.
My main complaint is gigantic margins and low contrast (= much more time to scroll and search for data).
 
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Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:30 pm

I will make one more suggestion but I really haven't read ALL comments to know if anyone else asked for it as well.
When you click on a menu on the left the submenu appears. While the submenu is open if I hover another menu it hides the one that was open and opens the one I am hovering.
I know it is weird but I think I have missed clicked already several times and I was on my desk. What will happen when I am standing on a rack holding my laptop on one hand and using the laptop's mouse pad? I tend to believe that the moment you open a menu you need to click somewhere before it hides and sticking to that menu's submenu
 
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Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:56 pm

Idea 1: Read-only mode.

When enabled, connection is made in read-only mode by default. If you want to change anything you have to switch to read-write mode.

This would prevent accidental modifications.



Idea 2: Menu search
Instead of learning the menus, let a menu search do the job.
Sometimes it is easy to write the menu than to browse it.
Example: Type "nat" instead of click ip->firewall->nat
 
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Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:07 pm

Yea, Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! DUDE CLINET!!!! native for MacOK!!!
 
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Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:00 pm

I observed one unexpected thing - using Download action from Files menu causes different behaviour on different devices:
- devices with bigger storage: files are downloaded into selected directory as expected
- devices with 16 MB storage: files are downloaded into a /flash subdirectory of selected location (which will be created if missing).

I initially thought that downloads do not work at all until I noticed that /flash subdirectory on the computer. It happens in a same way for Mac and Windows.
 
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Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:46 pm

Is correct, the "root" on flash device is mounted as /flash, anything outside /flash is just a ram-dirve
 
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Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:57 pm

Yes that is on the device. Winbox 4 does similar thing on to your computer as well with downloaded files. Winbox 3 does not do this.
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:05 pm

Crash on Windows 7 SP1 with popup message "Entry point not found: The entry point to the CreateDXGIFactory2 procedure was not found in the DLL dxgi.dll ."
I am having same problem. How do I get the correct files for windows 7 ?
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:33 pm

I am having same problem. How do I get the correct files for windows 7 ?
Upgrade Windows. The program is not compatible with Windows 7.
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:36 pm

Crash on Windows 7 SP1 with popup message "Entry point not found: The entry point to the CreateDXGIFactory2 procedure was not found in the DLL dxgi.dll ."
I am having same problem. How do I get the correct files for windows 7 ?
Really? An operating system that is out of support? At a guess it's DirectX related so maybe Windows 7 doesn't support the required DirectX version.
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:10 pm

Is there really no git repo/github...or modern known issues/feature request tracker for winbox4?

A manually updated list at the top of a 1315 reply forum post seems like a bonkers implementation considering we're almost 1/4 of the way thru the 21st century.
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:23 pm

Is there really no git repo/github...or modern known issues/feature request tracker for winbox4?

A manually updated list at the top of a 1315 reply forum post seems like a bonkers implementation considering we're almost 1/4 of the way thru the 21st century.
This is HOTEL Mikrotik, you can never leave!!
 
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This is HOTEL Mikrotik, you can never leave!!
Or even a Casino, there you are lost and can't/shouldn't find the exit.
 
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This is HOTEL Mikrotik, you can never leave!!
Or even a Casino
Casinos also have no clocks, apparently also similar to Mikrotik.
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:01 am

Please add "open in new window" option
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:17 am

Is there really no git repo/github...or modern known issues/feature request tracker for winbox4?

A manually updated list at the top of a 1315 reply forum post seems like a bonkers implementation considering we're almost 1/4 of the way thru the 21st century.
You do realize that WinBox 4 is not an open source project right ?

Let me know how you get on finding a GitHub repo for Cisco AnyConnect, FortiClient, CrowdStrike, Sentinel1...
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:53 am

This is HOTEL Mikrotik, you can never leave!!
Only check out any time you like :)
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:21 pm

In Sept Smileymattj requested change to bring back Winbox 3 function
- Column ordering - Can't drag columns left or right to make custom order
Please can this be done soon. We use Comments to identify and describe 60+ clients routers daily. Was Note on Winbox 3
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:26 pm

Yes - column ordering is now one of biggest shortcomings left to resolve
 
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Hi


Dont listen people saying "it is fine" but listen that complains, if they have something to say.
First of all, great work trying to rewrite the app.
I'm a software developer ;)
As a company, we maitain over a hundred of Mikrotik Devices, which we love

I used to the old UI, it is intuitive and fast, I know where to search for everything.
When do you plan to stop fixing and completly drop the v3 ?


now the "bad part"

app itself:
50MB instead of 2MB
UI looks "flat" - no contrasting UI elements,
no borders around clickable elements,
sometimes space is wased for round corners
memory usage 100MB vs 17MB old app

logon window:
1. app starts in fullcreen size but it is not maximized - annoying to resize it by border drag instead of maximize button
2. the "groups" now doesn't work like groups, just like another regular column with no effet of groupping
3. can't drag columns to reorder
4. controls are spread across the window - some on top, some on bottom, some on left and some on the right - try to keem tem together (easy to say)

quick set
everything is hidden now in some "accordion" control
horizontal space wasted - now everything is in one column, while the old app have the same in 1/4 of the screen fitting window

main app:
1. menu opening behavior
- old app click and click
- new app - click, hoover, take care not to get outside the window, find an option
if I click the menu item it have to remain open untli I click something else in the menu, or pick some option from that menu,
(hovering is website degin, not the app)
2. windows
- no dragable top bar if the tab list is full -> add some DRAG AREA
- resize behavior - try to resize the DHCP window for example -> long named tabs title is hidden behind another tab title while some short named tabs have space -> try to use existig space first, the hide text
- ACTIONS panel - it is a waste os space, if we work with tabular data, each pixel of width is important ->try to make the actions panel collapsible or move to top menu of the window
3. can't drag columns to reorder
3. resources panel at bottom - it was on top all the time, please ad it on top or add an option to customize

most of users are technical here,
IMO: technical people don't care much about the UI look, what we care is functionality and speed - if I can click twice instead of clicking 3 times - i will chose the option 1
and not messing with the UI too much - moving UI elements around, placing option inside different menus etc.

seems like the new app could be replacing WEBFIG, but then it should not be called an app\
what framework it uses?
will you consider allow to create "themes" - like custom CSS / JS to modify the app feel and look?

will you plan to share the winbox as an opensource app? (maybe there will be some fans, that will keep it alive :) )
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BUG: On snapdragon based PC (I haven't been able to reproduce this on x86 based windows devices), the UI stops drawing rows after a certain length, this happens in all sections (arp/ip address/routes/etc) that exceed a certain amount:
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Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:48 am

You do realize that WinBox 4 is not an open source project right ?
Yes...I just used it as an example of a system that has issue tracking, threaded discussions. You do realize you don't have to post the source to track issues/feature requests and voting/discussions right ?

There's a dozen+ other completely open source systems instead. I'm sure Mikrotik's staff's time could be put to much better use if you could take 60% of the load away and let a guided community partially manage that. Pick anything other than a 20+ year old web interface to what is basically a newsgroup would be an improvement. #WorkSmartNotHard
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:34 am


Yes...I just used it as an example of a system that has issue tracking, threaded discussions. You do realize you don't have to post the source to track issues/feature requests and voting/discussions right ?
There is already a system for this at https://help.mikrotik.com/servicedesk/servicedesk just log a ticket and it will be tracked by Mikrotik for you.
 
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Yes...I just used it as an example of a system that has issue tracking, threaded discussions. You do realize you don't have to post the source to track issues/feature requests and voting/discussions right ?
There is already a system for this at https://help.mikrotik.com/servicedesk/servicedesk just log a ticket and it will be tracked by Mikrotik for you.
The issue with that is that any tickets you make there are only visible to you (and MikroTik of course).
A public tracking system has the advantage that people can look for similar tickets and see what is already known about their issue, upvote for a solution, etc.
It tends to be slightly more managable than a forum topic like this (and the firmware release topics).
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:16 pm

... or at least an updated list someplace of "known 'good' requests", similar concept to V7 routing engine overview. That allow discussion to be "diffs" – i.e. "Why isn't my feature X on the list?"
A public tracking system has the advantage that people can look for similar tickets and see what is already known about their issue, upvote for a solution, etc.
👍🏼
But some way to just "upvote" (stuff like rich keyboard navigation & tab-like dialogs) or "downvote" (stuff like webfig dialogs & customizable color themes [colors should have a fixed meaning]) ... without creating more post here be good.
 
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BUG: try sorting ip routes by dst address but routes are never in the correct order.
example using macos:
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Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:21 am

Have updated to Beta 8, still getting error "Could not connect, MacConnection syn timeout" when trying to access a device via L2.

I don't have firewall enabled on my mac.
Is the router directly connected to your compuer, or there are devices in between? In general MAC address connection works fine, so it is something with your setup. Note that the MAC connection should ONLY be used for recovery, not as a daly way to connect.
Directly connected, no devices in between. We often wipe the mikrotik device of any config and then begin adding just the config we need, so need to be able to connect without Layer3 initially configured.

Our local Mikrotik trainer was able to reproduce this problem on his Macbook as well, so I don't think this problem is specific just to me.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:56 am

- Still no data copy to clipboard for Windows machines (tab delimted, so to paste into excel for easier scripting)
+1 to this, would be great! Or export to csv file, for cross-platform compatibility!
 
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Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:56 am

BUG: try sorting ip routes by dst address but routes are never in the correct order.
example using macos:

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I have this problem only with IPv6 routes and addresses. But it's unstable, sometimes it sorts correctly, sometimes not.
 
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Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:23 pm

Multiplatform - great, no wine needed for that anymore.
New look - pretty, but absolutely not usable. It is simply not informative.
Old winbox really was not ideal, but it was usable, new one - totally no.
It needs to manually fix each column width, it cannot compactly show information, no such options like Inline Comments... and many other things.

I totally do not like its UX and usability. So I've deleted it and switched back to WinBox 3 + wine.
Even console or webfig becomes more comfort for work in comparison to v4.

So it is really good attempt but with not very good results.
 
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Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:08 pm

feature request -
While winbox has long shown only the "humanized" Tx/Rx speeds everywhere... I've long wanted to have some option to show "# Xbps" speeds in some "fixed" unit since often 900 kbps looks way to similar to 900 Mbps. i.e. I just want to see 0.900 Mbps instead of mixing the units in the columns. I know sort works, but it's the "quick glance" that isn't so quick to spot a very slow (or very fast) link if differences are dramatic - which is exactly what I want to be able to spot quickly.

some controversial things.
I've been using winbox since it came out. I've complained enough about the "webfig dialogs"....

But the #2 issue* is the multiple columns in "2nd level" menus like IP,System,etc should be one (perhaps 2) column(s). At first it was just different... But "random order" does actually get annoying with time actually... especially when connecting on different routers. My preferred is one list, with scrolling... but since we're here, clearly that's not be everyone's taste - so perhaps just two [longer] columns for the long list of items like IP or System from left-side choices make it slight less annoying than the 3 columns?

* with Issue #0 is rich keyboard shortcuts, which I'm believe y'all working on.
 
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Over 2 weeks since the last Winbox update, gone very quiet.
 
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Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:23 am

It needs to manually fix each column width
Doesn't it needs in WinBox 3? It seems that no one cares about default column widths. This problem exists in ver. 3 and just migrated to ver. 4.
 
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Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:32 pm

I just tested the Winbox 4 on Linux.
Working pretty fine, but old style Winbox 3 has much clearer UI. It was mentioned here many times, so I just add a vote, that drop-down style instead of Tabs is a step back :)

Anyway I found a little bug, when you want to download file from Mikrotik (right click->download) and open a destination folder, where other subfolders exist, the file is not saved to actually opened folder, but to the highlighted subfolder and the subfolder is not possible to unselect.
 
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Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:00 pm

WinBox 4 is great in a lot of ways, but in one particular way it is a HUGE regression..... TABS!

Can we please have tabs back in all elements of WinBox 4. Not having them makes using WinBox 4 very cumbersome and time consuming

SFP Info in WinBox 4 = a lot of wasted space
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SFP Info in WinBox 3 = Perfection
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Say you now wanted to view the Interface stats. In WinBox 4 you would need to either shrink the SFP info, or scroll a few pages to get to the Stats section and then expand it. In WinBox 3 you simply click the stats tab.

PLEASE bring back the tabs !!!!
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Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:06 pm

Looks like I am unable to save a connection to a MACADRES in WB4b9 ...
 
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Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:27 pm

WinBox 4 is great in a lot of ways, but in one particular way it is a HUGE regression..... TABS!
+1000 Along with:
 Missing tree view of sub-items in tables, like VLANs, Queues, etc.

This should be very "agile" to implement as Normis indicated, since they have programmed it from the beginning ...

But it seems that it is not so "agile" or "easy" to apply these adjustments....

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Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:50 pm

Thanks for native WinBox application! I am using it on Linux.

* Would it be possible to use standard system file browse dialog window instead of built in one? Current built in browse dialog is missing usual shortcuts (/, /home, personal folder bookmarks, etc.) which makes file operations a pain.

* When downloading config from Files using WinBox 4 beta9, right clicking on config file and selecting "Download...", then selecting destination directory where i want to put the file, it always creates "Flash" directory where the downloade file is then saved. For example, when i try to download HEX-20241024.backup file and select destination folder "/home/user/configs/", the file will be saved in path "/home/user/configs/Flash/HEX-20241024.backup".

* I have to agree with others, current Tab-less design is kinda slower/harderd to use.
 
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Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:40 pm

The WinBox 4 is awesome! Specifically, because now it's Linux native.
I've been using Winbox 3 for many years via Wine, and all Linux users know what that experience is like.

It seems the Mikrotik developers had a great idea to make their network management product (Winbox) with a GUI that's more user-friendly for private users/customers. But for me, working with thousands of Mikrotiks and managing hundreds of different projects, any change in the interface is a real pain.

Why should I waste my valuable time learning new things and getting used to a new interface?

You're doing a great job, and we all appreciate it, but please give us the option to stick with our old habits. Why not just create an "OLD Style" and a "New Style" option and let users choose? Why can't we have an adjustable interface/theme?

Every time I log into Winbox 4, my eyes hurt from the color scheme: gray font on a gray background (for disabled items) — please, no.
Please make the interface customizable for users. Or at least create a "High Contrast" theme for both light and dark modes.

And please, bring back the tabs!

Anyway, it looks like it has been consistently improving
 
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Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:30 pm

...please give us the option to stick with our old habits. Why not just create an "OLD Style" and a "New Style" option and let users choose? Why can't we have an adjustable interface/theme?
...And please, bring back the tabs!
And there lies the problem.

I don't know if any of you realise but three weeks has now passed since the last update and curiously @normis has only posted once in that time (he was posting a lot more frequently earlier).

As I read through the posts, I'm beginning to understand why. It seems like they have given up because of a largely ungrateful community, and why wouldn't they? I would have. Clearly MT have decided to take a different direction with Winbox in terms of it's UI. That's their decision, for the rest of us who don't like that decision, we need to build a bridge and get over it. Then there's the incessant complaining about tabs, among a whole host of other issues.

If you don't like something about Winbox4, the answer is simple - stick with Winbox3. MT has stated Winbox3 is not going anywhere, and stop nagging about how much longer it takes to add an extra keystroke to do something in Winbox4 over 3. Maybe use SSH instead of Winbox. No, wait a minute, that would use a stack load more keystrokes but, hey it's what the pro's use and I don't hear them complaining about the SSH keystrokes.

Me, I like what MT has done with the UI. If I didn't, I would continue to use 3 or learn SSH. I wouldn't come on here and mitch and bone about it, especially if it's been mentioned multiple times already. Sure there are things that I'd like them to add or restore, but they've already been acknowledged and I'm happy to await an update.

More complaining about stuff that has been mentioned before won't bring a quicker fix, more likely the opposite. If I were an MT employee seeing all this ungrateful, me me me me attitude, I'd be pulling back a fair bit too.

Just my two cents worth.
 
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Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:25 pm

+1 to everything you said. It's one thing to provide constructive input about things you would like to see in order to improve the product. It's another to spew a bunch of whining and complaining about petty things like why it doesn't look like Winbox3. Even more ironic when many of those complaining so strongly are the same ones that bitched and moaned about how hard it was to run Winbox on Wine on Linux and iOS. I'm excited to see the new, native Winbox development, recognize that it has room for improvement, and look forward to seeing the product mature with time. It's a beta product after all...
 
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Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:33 pm

Apologies in advance for the off-topic.

Who said we are not grateful? On the contrary, we are very grateful, and I believe most people here would agree with me!

Not too long ago, I had the opportunity to visit Mikrotik's office in Latvia on behalf of my company. I was welcomed by an official representative of Mikrotik, and the first thing he asked was about what we needed, what equipment we would like to see on the market, and what suggestions or ideas we had. The questions weren't just about hardware, but also about improvements to the software. It is absolutely normal and natural for a manufacturer or developer to seek feedback from their customers. It's just as normal for customers to leave honest feedback for the manufacturer.

This is how issues are addressed, and the product gets better with every new update. Customers are happy, and the manufacturer gets more positive feedback and ultimately more profit.

Winbox4 is still in development – it's a Beta, and it’s perfectly fine for us to leave our personal, honest feedback on behalf of the community here.

Keep it up, Mikrotik! Move forward and keep evolving!
 
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Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:07 am

I want to report an issue with WinBox 4 beta 9

When I use winbox with many display, I moved to a secondary display it works without issue.

But If I open winbox again with only the main display available (the secondary is not connected), winbox open, I can see in the taskbar that it's running, but I cannot see the winbox screen. The only way to fix it, is to attach the secondary display move it to the main display. This can be solved if I have the second display at hand, but I have to move to some place, It's an issue. I use the old winbox. This happens to me with a laptop.

I'm using Windows 11 23H2
 
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Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:40 pm

To KiwiBloke
First of all, the app is developed for users, MT is not doing it for themselves, so everyone will give a feedback about what he/she likes or not, what became better and what became worse. It's completely normal. Moreover, it's a new product in beta stage and everyone should provide a feedback as much as possible. That's how a good software is created. Good developers listen and hear all feedback, complains, critics and try to fullfill users requirements to make their product better. And I think MT are good developers, because they usually hear us. It's good that you are not an MT employee. No any adequate developer will give up because of "ungrateful community" (though, I haven't seen anyone ungrateful here), they will just improve the product to make this community grateful, otherwise the product won't be successful.
So, everything you said is a bulls**t. You'll never get a good app if you will just take what is given to you and silently be "grateful" for that.
 
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Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:06 pm

Not too long ago, I had the opportunity to visit Mikrotik's office in Latvia on behalf of my company. I was welcomed by an official representative of Mikrotik, and the first thing he asked was about what we needed, what equipment we would like to see on the market, and what suggestions or ideas we had. The questions weren't just about hardware, but also about improvements to the software. It is absolutely normal and natural for a manufacturer or developer to seek feedback from their customers. It's just as normal for customers to leave honest feedback for the manufacturer.
Great to hear that!
Of course there is no "typical customer" and everyone has different suggestions.
Priority to implement them will undoubtedly depend on the number of times they receive the same suggestion multiplied by the number of units those users are predicting to buy.
There are some features that "many" users request, e.g. IPsec VTI, but are not planned to be implemented.
However, those that request it may have less than 50 routers (like me) and others that have bought 100.000 routers for use as CPE probably do not need that, but have completely different suggestions like a central management service and restrictions on services that can cause a lot of traffic.
 
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Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:37 pm

@teslasystems One of my first comments on Winbox 4 was about UI color contrast. Reaction of normis: "clean your dusty display". After "some" (actually a lot of) other people also pointed out the color thingy - suddenly Mikrotik did improve in betas. So it is a mixed experience.
 
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Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:09 pm

@teslasystems One of my first comments on Winbox 4 was about UI color contrast. Reaction of normis: "clean your dusty display". After "some" (actually a lot of) other people also pointed out the color thingy - suddenly Mikrotik did improve in betas. So it is a mixed experience.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. If a lot of people will request the same thing, we will be heard. If only one or two will complain - of course they most likely won't be noticed.
 
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Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:46 pm

Who said we are not grateful? On the contrary, we are very grateful, and I believe most people here would agree with me!
I am extremely grateful, WinBox 4 is a huge step in the right direction.

I don't think anyone here is throwing shade on Mikrotik's clearly HUGE effort on WinBox 4.


Almost all the feedback is constructive in fashion, and I am sure Mikrotik are taking it as such.
 
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Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:56 pm

I want to report an issue with WinBox 4 beta 9

When I use winbox with many display, I moved to a secondary display it works without issue.

But If I open winbox again with only the main display available (the secondary is not connected), winbox open, I can see in the taskbar that it's running, but I cannot see the winbox screen. The only way to fix it, is to attach the secondary display move it to the main display. This can be solved if I have the second display at hand, but I have to move to some place, It's an issue. I use the old winbox. This happens to me with a laptop.

I'm using Windows 11 23H2
Im having a couple of tools with that issue and my fix for it is like that:
Right-Click on the Window (hover over taskbar icon and it will show)
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Click on "Move". Use arrow keys to move the window at least once. (press any arrow key just once)
Then it will be attached to your mouse cursor and you can move it wherever you like and then click the left mouse button
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:40 pm

Yes, tabs are the best than lot of collapse
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:53 am

I can't find the simple search field that used to be located in the top-right corner in WinBox 3. While there is a Filter button, it only helps when you know exactly where to look—such as the specific field or column. When I need to search across an entire page (parsing the window), the simple search field was invaluable. It wasn’t perfect, but it got the job done.
Does somebody know where is it in Winbox 4?
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Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:15 pm

There is no search as yet, I'm on Beta9 and frustrated!!
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:13 pm

Don't be, it is not healthy.
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:56 pm

Don't use beta software if it frustrates you
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:46 am

Is it possible to optimize the traffic chart display in PPPoE? The chart is currently too large, and it's cumbersome to scroll through the values. It is suggested that it can be adjusted automatically based on the window size, and upload/download can be displayed side by side.
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:52 pm

Suggestion as the start up dialog is bit confusing

The workspace - might be more intuitive to put that before the "Connect to"

My expectation is that the IP address of Mikrotik device be saved in the workspace no?
Then be easier to remember the login name associated with IP address.

Dunno about you.

There are some kinks in there but fair dues to getting this out to the world :)

Thanks,
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Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:11 am

When I need to manage bigger firewall rule table or anything else with many objects and values, Winbox 4 is still completely useless.

It continues to be useless until column reordering will be possible. Inefficient use of space is another problem but possibility to reorder the columns will remain a dealbreaker.

P. S. Why is it somewhat silent here as far as Mikrotik is concerned?
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:15 am

No, workspace has no relation to the IP of the specific router. Workspace is just the desired layout of windows. You should be making the workspaces per "usage type", not per each device.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:34 pm

For this functionality to work completely reliable and predictable, you would want to have a "reload" function for the workspaces.
As it is now, when you have two simultaneous sessions sharing the same session/workspace file, and you make changes in one session, it is somewhat unpredictable what will happen when you exit the session or save it.
 
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Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:23 am

WinBox 4 is great in a lot of ways, but in one particular way it is a HUGE regression..... TABS!

Can we please have tabs back in all elements of WinBox 4. Not having them makes using WinBox 4 very cumbersome and time consuming

SFP Info in WinBox 4 = a lot of wasted space
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SFP Info in WinBox 3 = Perfection
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Say you now wanted to view the Interface stats. In WinBox 4 you would need to either shrink the SFP info, or scroll a few pages to get to the Stats section and then expand it. In WinBox 3 you simply click the stats tab.

PLEASE bring back the tabs !!!!
+100 this is one of the main reasons which drive me away from v4 still
(alongside group/note feature, open in new window, sluggish window dragging inside winbox, parent/child element indentation, drag columns)
 
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Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:00 am

If tabs would be coming back then it should be made in a way that one dataset is not dispersed between separate tabs - if we have firewall rule then stats and status could be in separate tabs but these "advanced" and "extra" (like in Winbox 3) should not be there - these do make it impossible to see all parameters together.

Current Winbox 4 implementation has a problem as well as all defined sections are not in a view but are collapsed even when they contain values that are defined
 
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Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:11 pm

The Freq. Usage window is not easy to use for quickly spotting clean channels to use. Can a more user friendly window be developed? Perhaps a feature that recommends the top 3 channels for maximum throughput?
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Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:23 pm

Could you please elaborate? Why isn't it easy to use? You can click on "Usage" and it will sort by usage.
 
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Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:11 pm

Could you please elaborate? Why isn't it easy to use? You can click on "Usage" and it will sort by usage.
In fairness, it is same as winbox3 which seems to be initial goal.

But it ain't a great dialog box for quickly figuring out a channel to use. i.e.
- usage should align on the "." or be right aligned - these left-aligned "stats" aren't as quickly readable (i.e. see my complaints about the changing units in /iinterface/... above).
- default to sort usage might be a better idea, but dunno
- which ones are the 40/80/XXMhz center be good to denote/column
- similar with which ones are DFS, and/or country-specific "channel number"
 
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Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:30 pm

Instead of all these attempts to let the user find a clear spot, it would be better to have a spectrum analyzer that indicates signal and noise as function of the frequency (channel) and time, with some automated way to find the optimal channel.
(the competitor has it...)
 
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Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:18 am

Please, also return tabs on the login page. Now it's required to make more clicks to switch between 'Neighbors' and 'Saved' page, it's inconvenient.
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Regarding frequency usage window, I agree, that it's not very readable even when sorted by usage. The problem here is that the font has a variable character width. Anything like "alignment on dot" or "right-justify" won't help, it will look even worse. The only solution here is to choose the font that has a fixed character width.
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Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:16 pm

It needs to manually fix each column width
Doesn't it needs in WinBox 3? It seems that no one cares about default column widths. This problem exists in ver. 3 and just migrated to ver. 4.
No, I don't think version 3 needs that. It happens so rarely that I don't even remember it. In version 4 I have to adjust the columns literally in every window I open, while in version 3 everything fits out of the box.

P.S. I also downgraded ROS7 to ROS6 due to high CPU usage. All new updates are really frustrating.
 
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Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:11 pm

Regarding frequency usage window, I agree, that it's not very readable even when sorted by usage. The problem here is that the font has a variable character width. Anything like "alignment on dot" or "right-justify" won't help, it will look even worse. The only solution here is to choose the font that has a fixed character width.

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Yeah, MikroTik, please give us the option to use the system UI fonts instead of whatever product of some graphics designer that WinBox 4 is currently using. Give us the ability to use Segoe UI (or even Tahoma) under Windows please!
 
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Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:44 pm

RouterOS can produce some really big log messages now.
Would it be possible when opening a log message window, instead of having a very long window to have the message instead have automatic line breaks to fit in the box vertically?
Additionally, would it be possible to have the same line break feature when selecting the log message in the logs window if it's too long to fit horizontally?
Same for comments, please.
We need a multiline box/window to view/edit comments.
For example, we save wireguard clients setup conf in its comments
 
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Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:55 am

I find this quite 'dangerous' - the cancel button next to the delete button.

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No, I don't think version 3 needs that. It happens so rarely that I don't even remember it. In version 4 I have to adjust the columns literally in every window I open, while in version 3 everything fits out of the box.
Are you kidding? Just open any Firewall window, you will have to extend EVERY column, because all values are longer than default width. Other windows are also not perfect, but Firewall is the most outstanding example. Of course, after adjusting everything will be fine, but by default it looks awful.
 
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Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:20 am

Firewall log messages are really the worst and IPv6 firewall messages especially (for obvious reasons) being longer than IPv4 firewall messages. Ths problem is already bad on Winbox 3, but Winbox 4 makes it significantly worse with its' more inefficient screen space usage. For now only way to mitigate this problem is to use other tools for reading log messages.
 
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Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:24 pm

... or get a wider screen. On my 2560x1440 screen where I run winbox 3 at about 80% of the screen width, I have no issues with log messages.
And of course, it is always best to put log messages in files and/or on a syslog server as well, where you can go back in history, use grep to find things, etc.
 
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Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:04 pm

I don't see the dst.address/port filtering option in ip/firewall/connections
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Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:28 pm

+1 for making a multiline field for the log entry window instead of a long single-line text field. And not only in WinBox 4, same with WinBox 3.

And

1. Please add '...' at the end of the message field if a text is clipped. Currently it's impossible to see if a message is complete or not.
2. Please make a normal clear frames around the fields in this window or change their background. A frame is only visible when a field is focused.

Attached a screenshot as an example. Everything has the same background, no any contrast between the window and the fields, unclear if there is more information on the right or not.

If these modern (silly) UI design trends will continue in the world, we will have a white text on a white background some day...
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... or get a wider screen.
Well, not wrong that you need a wide-screen. IMO is a kinda of a problem since not everyone uses Winbox from a desktop with multiple displays. My problem is I often I have two Winbox open, use a laptop, and don't have multiple screens available very often.

Specific to MacOS & "Tiling"...

1. Winbox4 is not particularly suited to using MacOS's newer tiling features, see below.

Horizontal Scrolling...

2. Worse is horizontal scrolling using MacOS trackpad with "two fingers" in Winbox list control does not work (i.e. ONLY works for vertical scroll). I'm not a mouse guy, but most mouse wheels also support horizontal scrolling too - so likely not just Mac trackpads I suspect.
(Notice this is on the known issue list in first post...)

Login Screen...

3. I'm not sure why MAC address is listed first in Winbox (other than history)... It's generally better to connect via IP & the IP may be more "well known" than a routers MAC — the IP should be FIRST column in login IMO. As shown, if you could see the IP address in the Login screen, the need for horizontal scrolling be reduced there at least. And the single Actions: "Refresh" just waste even more "real estate" that causes IP to not be shown too...
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4. And KNOT on right side has 100% CPU... turns out it was using a large 27KB workspace (semi-created by accident — I just open windows and only occasionally using "Close All Windows")... but seems a few [hidden] mac-telnet windows were directly causing the 100% CPU, with /tool/profile show it in the "telnet" service. It repo able with my unusually large workspace, since seen the higher CPU before with Winbox4 having "way too many" windows open for a small device... Still winbox should not be able to drive CPU to 100%, and switching to <none> causes CPU to go below 5% (since this test KNOT only does LoRa).
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Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:03 pm

Hi all, skins not working on winbox 4?
 
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Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:08 am

I'm not a fan. After using Winbox for so many years, I like the existing layout.
 
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Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:18 am

Hi all, skins not working on winbox 4?
The lack of "skin" support is a "Known Issue" in @normis's original post.
 
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Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:04 am

I'm just getting very frustrated with the numberpad enter key being some sort of a clear command instead of enter.
'ping 192.168.1.5 numbpad-enter' clears the command
'ping 192.168.1.5 reguar-enter' works fine.

PLEASE FIX
 
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Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:19 pm

... or get a wider screen. On my 2560x1440 screen where I run winbox 3 at about 80% of the screen width, I have no issues with log messages.
And of course, it is always best to put log messages in files and/or on a syslog server as well, where you can go back in history, use grep to find things, etc.
Yes on Winbox 3 it is "almost bearable", but Winbox 4 screen space usage (in)efficiency ruins that - and many users do not sit in front of multiple big 5K screens while running Winbox. Current situation is not usable for people doing mobile work on laptops - not even when laptop has high resolution screen.
 
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Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:47 pm

I'm just getting very frustrated with the numberpad enter key being some sort of a clear command instead of enter.
'ping 192.168.1.5 numbpad-enter' clears the command
'ping 192.168.1.5 reguar-enter' works fine.

PLEASE FIX
It works OK here (on Linux). It may depend on the OS or the configuration.
I remember the days when the numeric pad sent some sort of VT220 codes for keypad keys and it could be switched using an escape sequence or some obscure X command. Maybe it is just set wrongly on your system?
 
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Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:49 pm

Current situation is not usable for people doing mobile work on laptops - not even when laptop has high resolution screen.
Ruining exsiting well-designed GUIs to unusable low-contrast no-borders style is the hype of today's design.
Winbox is not even the worst example of that. And probably the motivation for it is not the same either, it is just that tools for "modern GUI design" all suck because "everyone" (who isn't asked) wants to have it that way.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:56 pm

Awesome news!

Now, I tested 4.0beta1 and 4.0beta3 on macOS (Sonoma on M3, against ROS 7.15.3) and it fails to connect with the following (WinBox 3 via Wine still ok):
ERR: Could not connect, MacConnection syn timeout
(while at it, please allow for copying error messages)

If only you'd taken the opportunity to change that meaningless (if not entirely misleading) name, now that its Windoze shackles are finally off :)

Thanks and keep it up!
Unfortunately, no change with 4.0beta6...
Unfortunately, no change with 4.0beta9 (now against ROS 7.16.1)...
 
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Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:39 pm

Ruining exsiting well-designed GUIs to unusable low-contrast no-borders style is the hype of today's design.
Winbox is not even the worst example of that. And probably the motivation for it is not the same either, it is just that tools for "modern GUI design" all suck because "everyone" (who isn't asked) wants to have it that way.
For Mac users it started with macOS 11 about 4 years ago when this drastic "aesthetic user experience" change was introduced - item spacing on main menu bar and most window toolbars increased by almost 50%, most UI buttons lost their borders and all UI items lost their contrast. How this concept is making its way into professional software tools is just awful.
Best example of this offence is what happens on disabling "inline comments" - after this one object takes about 3 lines worth of space when compared to Winbox 3 layout, while it should be expected to take 2 lines.
Sacrificing functionality to "design" in this way is a sure way to make the product worthless and useless.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:40 pm

Seems like when you have an interface open the graphs don't cover the whole screen.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:28 pm

For Mac users it started with macOS 11 about 4 years ago when this drastic "aesthetic user experience" change was introduced - item spacing on main menu bar and most window toolbars increased by almost 50%, most UI buttons lost their borders and all UI items lost their contrast. How this concept is making its way into professional software tools is just awful.
For me it is most surprising that it makes it past the EU commissions and rules... I would expect major backlash due to the loss of "accessibility" that the new style of user interfaces has caused. In an environment like the EU I would have expected sanctions.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:49 pm

Ruining exsiting well-designed GUIs to unusable low-contrast no-borders style is the hype of today's design.
Winbox is not even the worst example of that. And probably the motivation for it is not the same either, it is just that tools for "modern GUI design" all suck because "everyone" (who isn't asked) wants to have it that way.
For Mac users it started with macOS 11 about 4 years ago when this drastic "aesthetic user experience" change was introduced - item spacing on main menu bar and most window toolbars increased by almost 50%, most UI buttons lost their borders and all UI items lost their contrast. How this concept is making its way into professional software tools is just awful.
Best example of this offence is what happens on disabling "inline comments" - after this one object takes about 3 lines worth of space when compared to Winbox 3 layout, while it should be expected to take 2 lines.
Sacrificing functionality to "design" in this way is a sure way to make the product worthless and useless.
Amen.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:53 pm

For me it is most surprising that it makes it past the EU commissions and rules... I would expect major backlash due to the loss of "accessibility" that the new style of user interfaces has caused. In an environment like the EU I would have expected sanctions.
If we are speaking about Mac user interface then Accessibility settings include "Increase contrast" and "Show button shapes" options, but result is not aesthetically very good and it does not solve the problem of wasting screen space.
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:38 pm

New beta? When?
Normis said that the development should be fast after developing it from the beginning..

Vlan tree, qos tree, missing ...
 
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Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:22 pm

Don't ask me why, but I normally do not set an IP to the devices manually. Since you can connect to them via MAC using winbox and dhcp client works quite well.

Or it used to. WinBox 4 refuses to connect to a device that has no IP assigned. If the device reports 0.0.0.0 and you try to connect to it via MAC it will fail. Set an IP, any IP, and you can connect using MAC. Why is this now a requirement? it didn't seem to matter in winbox 3.x

I like the way this new app looks.
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:37 pm

Or it used to. WinBox 4 refuses to connect to a device that has no IP assigned. If the device reports 0.0.0.0 and you try to connect to it via MAC it will fail. Set an IP, any IP, and you can connect using MAC. Why is this now a requirement? it didn't seem to matter in winbox 3.x
For me connecting via MAC always fails, even when having set an IP. But thanks for the idea, connecting via IP finally works! Still, regular connecting via MAC needs fixing.

Cheers
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:22 pm

Or it used to. WinBox 4 refuses to connect to a device that has no IP assigned. If the device reports 0.0.0.0 and you try to connect to it via MAC it will fail. Set an IP, any IP, and you can connect using MAC. Why is this now a requirement? it didn't seem to matter in winbox 3.x
Just tested the latest Winbox4 (4.0beta09), on an RB5009 running RoS 7.16.1, with firmware 7.16.1 too.
Connected using MAC address without any problem. Runing Linux, OpenSuse 15.6 Leap.

Edit: with dynamic IP address assigned. There are people complaining about not connecting with MAC even with an assigned IP address.
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:56 pm

Also having issues connecting via MAC on directly connected fully reset device (no default config)
Debian testing, RoS 7.16.1, Winbox4 (4.0beta09)

Error Message: ERR: Could not connect, MacConnection syn timeout

Console output:
./WinBox 
APP,INFO: version: "4.0beta9"
APP,INFO: loading addrs db from: "/home/ms/.local/share/MikroTik/WinBox/Addresses.cdb"
PERS,WARN: read ERROR OPENING "No such file or directory" "/home/ms/.local/share/MikroTik/WinBox/Addresses.cdb"
APP,INFO: loading failed ""
DISCOVERY,INFO: bcast addrs: 255.255.255.255, ff02::1, 192.168.0.255, 192.168.122.255, 
APP,UPDATE: version fetched: "4.0beta9"
APP,UPDATE: nothing to update
DISCOVERY,INFO: bcast addrs: 255.255.255.255, ff02::1, 192.168.0.255, 192.168.122.255, 
MACCON potential addr mac: 11:22:33:44:55:66 addr: "255.255.255.255"
MACCON potential addr mac: 11:22:33:44:55:66 addr: "192.168.0.255"
MACCON potential addr mac: 33:44:55:66:77:88 addr: "192.168.122.255"
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
WBOXCONN status change "Connecting..."
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 0
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 0
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 0
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 1
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 1
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 1
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 2
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 2
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 2
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 3
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 3
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 3
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 4
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 4
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 4
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 5
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 5
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 5
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 6
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 6
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 6
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 7
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 7
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 7
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 8
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 8
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 8
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 0  resend: 9
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 1  resend: 9
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::BoundState
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
MACCON,WARN synTimeout iface: 2  resend: 9
WINBOXIMPL,ERR: QAbstractSocket::UnknownSocketError "Could not connect, MacConnection syn timeout"
WBOXCONN status change "ERR: Could not connect, MacConnection syn timeout"
MACCON socket state changed to: QAbstractSocket::UnconnectedState
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:03 pm

IDK, but does it work when you only have one IP and/or on interface? Sometimes having multiple interfaces with wine+winbox3 would cause MAC winbox not to work.
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:32 am

I don't see the destination port filter in the new version 4, will it be available soon? Is there any other way to view this data?
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Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:13 pm

finally i see native MAC OS Winbox, Thank you Mikrotik
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:18 pm

Theses menus are too big... we have to move too much for same thing than in v3x...
 
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Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:26 pm

Need a way how to migrate connections from Windows OS to MAC OS as windows exported file extension is different from MAC *.cdb , Jesus, i will get tired to move manually one by one ;D
 
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Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:33 pm

Feature request: I would like to have a note inside Winbox xD

When I leave unfinish configuration, I want my friend who come later know what he has to do.
 
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Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:36 pm

Under Microsoft Windows version 10 or version 11

I much prefer Winbox 3.x from a productive perspective

The Longer I use Winbox 4 the longer I come to the conclusion that Winbox 4 is very unproductive for me ...
you got used in to older version the same to me but after some time of use 4.x and improvments by developers you wont come back to version 3.x
 
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Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:01 pm

The Enable/Disable buttons are always active regardless of the context.

If an interface is already Enabled the Enable button should be inactive. Likewise for Disable.

Thanks!
 
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Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:39 pm

On Mac - If I copy an existing firewall rule, it is putting the copied rule right to the bottom of the list and not directly below it. I'm sire the previous v3 behaviour was to put it underneath but v4 is putting to the bottom. didn't half make me question myself earlier. Is this expected behaviour?
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:29 am

Hi,

New version usable with all the things pending for Christmas?

Regards,
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:55 pm

On Mac - If I copy an existing firewall rule, it is putting the copied rule right to the bottom of the list and not directly below it. I'm sire the previous v3 behaviour was to put it underneath but v4 is putting to the bottom. didn't half make me question myself earlier. Is this expected behaviour?
Indeed for firewall it works like that in v3, but it isn't consistent behavior all over the system. E.g. in Routing Filters v3 also puts them at the bottom.
Maybe now they try to have consistent behavior?
For sure when you have a long firewall rule set (our head office CCR has 277 filter rules) it is inconvenient when you copy a rule to create a new one, and you have to drag it all the way up from the end.... (but that was the same when you have many Filter rules)
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:31 pm

For sure when you have a long firewall rule set (our head office CCR has 277 filter rules) it is inconvenient when you copy a rule to create a new one, and you have to drag it all the way up from the end.... (but that was the same when you have many Filter rules)
I think the reasoning behind this is to not disrupt the firewall. Probably it's the same code used to create a new rule, and THEN the last line would be the safer place.

Maybe change the code, and copy the rule just below the original - but disabled and with "copy" inserted before the first comment word?
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:24 pm

Hello everyone, under winbox 4 beta9 (macOs) I have a problem in the terminal, using the numpad on my keyboard, I have a comma instead of a point, do you have a solution to this problem by chance? Elsewhere, in the entire interface no problem, I have a point and not a comma. Have a good day
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:55 pm

suggestion WinBox4 should use an image for QR codes

There are various complaints about the QR code for Wireguard client in 7.17beta thread... I'm not a regular user of the QR codes, but everytime I've tried to use one, I have to adjust the phone and/or fonts/sizing/"something"... While the MS-DOS character graphics are a nifty approach to "shoehorn" in QR code in CLI and Winbox3.... I'm not sure Winbox4 should not continue this approach for QR codes as it does make the harder to scan even in the best cases of rendering (i.e. NOT dark mode, 100% zoom, maximized winbox).
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:38 pm

+1... just generate a .png and display it.
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:54 pm

please no png, I dont want another source of bad scanability. Just render a SVG.
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:05 pm

please no png, I dont want another source of bad scanability. Just render a SVG.
That much I agree. I don't know if the resource constrains allow this, but between png and svg... I'll take svg any day.
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:14 pm

I'll take svg any day.
and SVG rendering support is one step closer to showing Dude maps in WinBox4 (something webfig has long be able to do, since browser has built-in support for SVG while winbox3 does not)
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:27 pm

For sure when you have a long firewall rule set (our head office CCR has 277 filter rules) it is inconvenient when you copy a rule to create a new one, and you have to drag it all the way up from the end.... (but that was the same when you have many Filter rules)
I think the reasoning behind this is to not disrupt the firewall. Probably it's the same code used to create a new rule, and THEN the last line would be the safer place.

Maybe change the code, and copy the rule just below the original - but disabled and with "copy" inserted before the first comment word?
Duplicating same rule below the original would hardly disrupt anything. Other choice would be to make duplicate initially disabled. If I work on Fortinet web interface then I have an option to insert duplicate above or below. More intelligent behaviour would be beneficial but Winbox 3 behaviour is safe and consistent. Current situation where duplicate is thrown to the end can be acceptable in small environments where you have less than 50 rules overall, but it is very bad in any bigger/more complex setup.

I don't see "reasoning" in this - it looks just like a bug.
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:11 am

I can not connect to any ma routerboards in local network if I have configured proxy in Windows. Winbox don't need proxy for this connections. Winbox need proxy only for check new version of Winbox and update it.
I believe a proxy is needed in many scenarios for any winbox activity.
It's better then the old version this way but, if there was an option to disable the usage of proxy it would be great and will be simpler in more then one setup out thee.
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:17 am

Duplicating same rule below the original would hardly disrupt anything. Other choice would be to make duplicate initially disabled.
Actually, COPY does not create a new rule at all.
It only copies the data from an existing rule in a new form, where you can edit it, and only when you click OK or APPLY a new rule will be created from the edited data.
When you click CANCEL, no rule has ever been created.

You can lock yourself out with ANY editing of the firewall rules, not important if it is a COPY or something else.
Probably with COPY the chances are less than with DELETE or with editing a rule without thinking...
(sometimes I intend to COPY something and inadvertently start editing the form, only to realize that I am doing something wrong at the time I want to click OK, or shortly afterwards...)
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:20 am

Maybe a nice new feature in winbox would be a "save as new item" button which allows you to start editing something (not only a firewall rule) and then at the end decide that you in fact wanted to do a COPY, edit, and APPLY/SAVE instead?
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:10 pm

Actually, COPY does not create a new rule at all.
It only copies the data from an existing rule in a new form, where you can edit it, and only when you click OK or APPLY a new rule will be created from the edited data.
When you click CANCEL, no rule has ever been created.

You can lock yourself out with ANY editing of the firewall rules, not important if it is a COPY or something else.
Probably with COPY the chances are less than with DELETE or with editing a rule without thinking...
(sometimes I intend to COPY something and inadvertently start editing the form, only to realize that I am doing something wrong at the time I want to click OK, or shortly afterwards...)
Yes it is exactly like that.
Maybe it would be better if Copy action was outside of Edit form and will add a duplicate in initially disabled status (would be more like it is with Fortinet).
 
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I don't see the advantage of creating an entry in disabled status. You can always click DISABLE when that is what you want.
 
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missing feature: romon configured devices i originally could connect in 2 clicks (select device then connect)

now i have to connect to a master device with romon first then go back into saved and select which device i wanted to connect to with saved creds

also every time you close a connection to a device via romon, the romon to the original master device is closed,
so you have to connect to the master device again then back into saved then to select what device you want to conect too

also it keeps reverting to the neighbours panel !
why do that when the app knows i have saved entries, so surely it should load the saved first !?

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Please bring back the previous RoMON behaviour.
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I don't see the advantage of creating an entry in disabled status. You can always click DISABLE when that is what you want.
Main advantage is that when duplicate is created in disabled state, there's no way that it could disrupt anything. You can edit it and then enable.
P. S. This can be actually done manually in our current implementation - after clicking Copy you can click Disable (and accept the next popup) in the new rule edit window before clicking OK or Apply.
 
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it would be nice since the skins don't work and you'll have to get to work, to have the possibility to create a custom menu where for example the user can insert variables even without having policy access. and whoever has policy access can go and read them to interact with the scripts. for example, you could also create an additional .json file where I indicate the variable name and value so that I can do the :deserialize. This would allow the basic user to insert values ​​without having to modify a .json file that could accidentally damage the syntax.
 
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I don't see the advantage of creating an entry in disabled status. You can always click DISABLE when that is what you want.
Main advantage is that when duplicate is created in disabled state, there's no way that it could disrupt anything. You can edit it and then enable.
It cannot disrupt anything anyway.
When you click COPY there is NO new rule being created. It is only copied to the editing panel, you can edit it as much as you like, and only when you hit OK or APPLY it is being created.
When that disrupts anything, it is your own fault. When it would be created "disabled", people would just enable it after saving and it would disrupt things in exactly the same way.
 
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When that disrupts anything, it is your own fault. When it would be created "disabled", people would just enable it after saving and it would disrupt things in exactly the same way.
True up to a point. Having to manual enable it force the user to think about it. Of course is not fool proof. Of course we will make mistakes, from time to time. But just editing the copied rule, and saving it directly as active without prompt, is one of the great attractors of the "oh no" events. Those, when we click the "ok" button and immediately think "oh, no".
 
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But just editing the copied rule, and saving it directly as active without prompt, is one of the great attractors of the "oh no" events. Those, when we click the "ok" button and immediately think "oh, no".
That would not be a problem because the copied rule is the same as the original and thus will have no effect at all.
It can only cause problems when you change something and THEN save it. But that is the case for EVERY change in the firewall filters.
 
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Those, when we click the "ok" button and immediately think "oh, no".
The firewall rules aren't special, copy works throughout the UI... and I'm not sure changing how it works is a good idea. Among them is a disabled item would still be committed to "disk", so it another flash write & perhaps even more confusing situation in reverse (i.e. was this disabled because it was a copy someone forgot to cleanup). And the "oh, no" situation can be solved with "Safe Mode".

What I'd advocate for is some "graphical flow chart" view/edit firewall rules over the longer term... than changing how the current one works.
 
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As I wrote above, I would like some new "save as new item" which is easier to use than first COPY, save that copy, and then still have the original open.
E.g. in PHPMyAdmin, which performs similar actions as modifying a RouterOS config, you can select a database row, do "edit", you get the data in a form just like in winbox, but at the end you can still decide whether you want to store the edited data in the original row or you want to insert it as a new row.
 
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Inline editing in "list/table view" would be nifty, i.e. no dialog needed would be nice feature.
 
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The firewall rules aren't special, copy works throughout the UI... and I'm not sure changing how it works is a good idea. Among them is a disabled item would still be committed to "disk", so it another flash write & perhaps even more confusing situation in reverse (i.e. was this disabled because it was a copy someone forgot to cleanup). And the "oh, no" situation can be solved with "Safe Mode".
Well, he asked with what this would help.
Yes, we can use safe mode (a very prudent move). It's just that (as far as possible) things should fail safe.
No, this isn't a high priority thing. It isn't even a low priority one - what we have works. This is just us, throwing ideas around. :D
 
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Biggest missing feature is the ability to set or change address list master password.
 
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No option to paste licence key in Winbox4.0 Beta 9
 
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bring back boxes as drop down option is terrible my screen is not that long for some of these options, tired to use torch cannot see what going on just 4 or 5 lines of activity the rest is main torch config window.
 
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Oh boy, I was afraid of trying new Winbox. I am using ROS since the IDE DOMs and JavaBox (JBox? it has been a long time). But I feel like I am home in Winbox 4!. Huge congratulations to the whole team as this is probably the best revamp of an old and trusted app I've seen in tech.

My main issue with the interface is the overall "blandness". While I realize there's a point called "Improve contrast in both light and dark modes for old displays with low contrast ratio" on the list, I see a much bigger issue and thus I specifically used a word different than "contrast" as the issue is way bigger than that. The issue exists on SDR displays, but even on my OLED the navigation is an issue. I will speak here from both a perspective of long-time Winbox 3 user, as well as someone who spent quite bit of time in UX design.
To be more concrete I will try to summarize the most glaring issues I see right now:
  1. Don't be afraid of colors!
    The old UI contains many distinct icons, many of them contain very unique combination of colors. This has been thrown out in the new Winbox. While the overall modern design language promotes flatness, the design team at MikroTik went a bit too far here. Usage of colors makes searching for things on the screen quicker and decreases cognitive load of users. I would like to point out this is a well known phenomenon described in literature and not just my old preference ;) Even Apple, known from its desire to make everything bland in the UI utilizes colors when a density of information can be overwhelming.
    Where colors are used their saturation appears to be too low, e.g. icons for firewall chains on the list.
    Screenshot 2024-11-16 at 23.54.59 copy.png

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  2. Hint users at what's possible rather than hiding it
    Winbox 4 follows a cool yet unnatural design paradigm of hiding actions that aren't possible. For example on any list when no elements are selected the disable/remove buttons aren't visible. This hurts discoverability, especially for new users. In addition, this creates a perception that if action is visible it can be executed which naturally isn't true as soon as two different types are selected (e..g physical and virtual interface). I haven't seen an interface that does this, which further reduces familiarity:
    not-hidding-top.png
    not-hiding-macos.png
    In addition, this behavior isn't even consistent across the rest of the Winbox 4 UI:
    not-hidding-inc.png

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  3. What's clickable?
    This is a problem with many modern designs, not just Winbox 4 but definitely in the MikroTik world this is a significant downgrade. Across the whole application the user needs to guess what may be clickable. This is a byproduct of both a severe lack of contrast (especially in dark mode, which I had to disable despite using it everywhere else) and semi-random placement of actionable places.
    Below I included a screenshot where I marked things that are clickable with green asterisk and ones that appear to be clickable visually but are not.
    • The actions on the right contains some of the actions that can be performed on the record. This is a bit strange as there are many other actions like copy or remove.
    • The "Actions" (and similar) are not visually indicative to be clickable. This is especially difficult in windows with lists.
    • The bottom bar contains pill-shaped buttons with text... except for the delete free-floating icon, making it a bit jarring.
    • The copy button looks like was placed on the top bar a bit randomly. It has no spatial relationship to that place.
    • The white rounded rectangle is sometimes clickable (e.g. for dropdowns) but sometimes it is not (e.g. top bar with <noname>)
    • Winbox 3 was pretty consistent with statuses being displayed on the bottom of windows. In Winbox 4 it's sometimes on the top somewhere (e.g. here for Disabled/Dynamic/Invalid) and sometimes on the bottom
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  4. Do not open another menu on hover
    Winbox 3 has a very intentional design decision to SEVERELY delay opening of new menus on hover from the main left menu when another menu is already open. Winbox 4 makes this experience very frustrating. This is because Winbox 4 now requires much greater precision during navigation, which is especially tricky when working on a laptop balanced on a ladder ;)
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  5. Reconsider filtering icon placement
    It took me a while to find how to filter a list. One of the main reasons for that is the placement of the filtering button isn't very logical. The filter icon occupies space that is visually suggest actions will be related to a window. This stems from both familiarity of other interfaces (e.g. OS design) and Gestalt principles of grouping.
    filter-icon.png

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  6. Columnar layout for submenus isn't intuitive
    In most parts of the world people read from left to right and then down. This is a cognitively simple operation. However, the submenus in Winbox 4 are now for some reasons organized in small columns, few elements each. This makes navigation more challenging, as backtracking in columns is specifically difficult for our brains to coordinate. With winbox being a professional tool loaded to the brim with functionality it isn't uncommon to do 2-3 quick saccades e.g. to find IP => Firewall. Unfortunately, this is much more difficult in Winbox 4.
    This problem is being compounded by the fact nothing looks clickable, in comparison to clear boxes in Winbox 3.
    columnar-menu.png

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  7. Scrolling inertia is broken
    Apologies for a non-descriptive title here, but I cannot describe it better. I am testing on macOS with a trackpad and scrolling long lists quickly is impossible. In both Winbox 3 and any native macOS app I am able to scroll a very list with a quick "flick". In Winbox 4 the scrolling speed is taken into consideration, but the acceleration value is much lower and the maximum scrolling speed is about 10x too slow :)
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  8. Saved hosts list should not be treated like a regular list
    I fully understand why the "list" is treated generically in Winbox 4. However, the list of hosts in the main window was always an exception as to how it was rendered, and I think for a good reason :) The "inline comments" is quite annoying with long comments in most lists in Winbox, so from what I've seen people have it disabled. However, on the main list where you have 100+ hosts saved it becomes very hard to navigate without enabling inline comments.... which starts applying to the whole Winbox. I think you see the issue.
    In addition, if I could suggest something for that list: grouping should be able to be displayed as groups. It is possible to filter-out a group of hosts, but there's no way to display all records but visually grouped.


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  9. Small points
    • In Winbox 3 selection status is very clear with "174 items (2 selected)". After hours of using Winbox 4 I finally figured out what this mysterious not-a-checkmark with "2 (174)" means.
    • Purely an opinion, but checkboxes on the lists are superfluous and serve no purpose. Selecting records highlights a whole row, which is similar to Winbox 3 and other apps (e.g. Excel). I don't see how addition of checkboxes improves the UX.
    • Font rendering is beautiful on macOS, but the font choice is a downgrade. The font used in Winbox 3 makes it very easy to look at e.g. DHCP lease expire time or MACs top-down very easy as they're rendered with a monospace font. Winbox 4 uses a non-monospace font, which isn't a good choice for information-dense lists.
    • New windows shouldn't open in top-left corner but in the center as this is where naturally our attention gravitates after clicking something. This is a quite strange behavior I've never seen in any other application and as such it was quite jarring the first time I saw this.
    • Some windows open too small to accommodate their tab bar (e.g. Switch)
      Screenshot 2024-11-17 at 01.11.52.png
    • Consider adding "reset zoom" option in the settings menu
    • Sorting of strings changed. I know it may feel like XKCD 1172 but I saw this quirk used in many configs, where people name things with capital letters to sort them into separate groups. In new Winbox they're mixed:
      sorting.png
    • When testing changes I very often open something and use a large Enable/Disable button to enable/disable it quickly with a single click. Now this action requires finding a small "Enabled" checkbox, clicking it, moving to Apply and clicking it.
    • Yes, the vertical (and not only vertical) density is horrible. I think this should be actually the main priority as to UX improvements.
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@killer129. Thank you for putting together such a thoughtful and incisive analysis! I have observed (and wrestled with) many of the same issues. Since this tool is still only in beta test, I can only hope that the Winbox team will take your recommendations seriously.
 
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Yes, what we do here is a free (as in beer) audit and user experience feedback, which is priceless. I only wish it is heard. Being a long time fanboy of some tech giants I can tell you nothing dejects me more than the feeling being hopelessly ignored when reporting important issues that affect my everyday life, and which are blatantly simple to fix.
 
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IDK, but does it work when you only have one IP and/or on interface? Sometimes having multiple interfaces with wine+winbox3 would cause MAC winbox not to work.
Wine + Winbox 3 still works just fine. It's just Winbox 4 that fails to connect with the same (imported) config. So it's definitely a regression.
 
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Wine + Winbox 3 still works just fine. It's just Winbox 4 that fails to connect with the same (imported) config. So it's definitely a regression.
Read the first post: there are some "gotchas" - one of them will help You. At least, I think it will. Some things changed, and there are "one time actions" to be taken, when going from classic to development.
 
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Hi there!

First, thank you for the native Winbox version for macOS and Linux. We appreciate a lot!!
Due wine incompatibilities and my daily use of macOS, I tent to use the winbox beta version since months.

Today I would like to share with you some feedback in order to improve the app since in the previous YouTube video
(MikroTik reacts to your comments: autumn edition - youtu.be/spQQUtVbQfA 5:05) you confirm the change of menu wrappers for the previous and great tabs system.
Thanks for that change because the wrappers is so slow due to info collapse and scroll movement.

So, I have encouraged myself to share the little details that I miss:

***** Home Screen ****
The actual start screen waste a lot of UI space and it would be great if have neighbors (and RoMON neighbors) in one and the saved in the other. Both in front of the user like the image below.
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***** The comment button ****
I miss a lot the comment button from the previous Winbox 3.x because I usually comment a lot. I think is an easy add-on for the final version.
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***** The quick torch feature ****
When I press right-click over an interface, the quick access to the torch tool appear, but in Winbox 4 we need to press the "start" button when in previous version it opened and started by itself.
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Read the first post: there are some "gotchas" - one of them will help You. At least, I think it will. Some things changed, and there are "one time actions" to be taken, when going from classic to development.
Thanks, I did. Are you referring to the known issues? The only one kind of related to the login process is "Special characters lost when upgrading from WinBox3, but work fine when entered via WinBox4 (can't be fixed!)". Presuming this pertains to the password, I don't think that applies in our case since login via IP does work in WinBox 4. So it's not a password-import issue.

Cheers
 
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Anyone experiencing flickering screen when winbox window is in background and you move the mouse around?
It is very common to open winbox and then work on another window but the winbox window keeps flickering and is quite annoying.
Not possible to attach screenshot, and strangely enough even the native window screen recorder does not capture it.
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Could someone please make a Wine wrapped version under Windows of the old WinBox with a repaint in dark colors, that would be enough. Ready to throw money at the monitor. The new version looks bad, especially its resource intensive, they could have written it in Qt/Electron/Rust or better UWP, but instead c++ in 2024... Either open the sources of the old branch. At the very least they could have just ported the existing version from android to PC.

Actually the new Winbox is written in Qt which is a cross-platform desktop widget toolkit. Writing in in UWP would make no sense, since it is not cross-platform.

I do agree about open-sourcing the code for Winbox, that would be very nice.
 
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Finally the new beta is out! App will self check the update when you launch it, so re-launch it ;)
It took longer, as the biggest change was hard to implement - tree views. Now we will continue with the rest of the requests and ideas in this thread.
What's new in v4.0beta12:

*) implement collapsable tree view in tables
*) rework form UI (some visual changes, added anchors)
- clicking anchor (tab) expands target section, collapses other sections and jumps to opened
- Shift+click toggles target section
- store/restore tab sections state in Workspaces
*) a few icon improvements
*) fix adding multirow widget in correct position
*) fix file upload speed
*) fix crash when opening traceroute result
*) implement table autoscroll when navigating with keyboard
*) fix mouse clicks going through subwindows on some Desktop environments
*) fix crash when filtering IP/DNS/Cache by Data field
*) Do not use OS level proxy settings for connections
*) improve scrolling behaviour
*) fix UI dragging lag on Windows OS
*) move subwindow resize activity zone by a few pixels out of inner content
*) improve scrollbar UX
*) fix opening instance window when switching workspaces
*) make form widgets more compact
 
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Its clear the cat rules the house!! Nice pic.
 
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Beta12 on MacOS Sonoma M1 macbook

startup screen with saved sessions has 2 row entries, very strange
startup screen does NOT SCROLL it shows about 17 saved devices and does not give access to the other 30 i have saved !
Not a good begin of this test
 
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eddieb, post screenshots of the issue, or email them to support@mikrotik.com if you don't want to post publicly
 
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@normis mail just sent to support SUP-171898
 
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Finally the new beta is out! App will self check the update when you launch it, so re-launch it ;)
It took longer, as the biggest change was hard to implement - tree views. Now we will continue with the rest of the requests and ideas in this thread.
What's new in v4.0beta12:

*) implement collapsable tree view in tables
*) rework form UI (some visual changes, added anchors)
- clicking anchor (tab) expands target section, collapses other sections and jumps to opened
- Shift+click toggles target section
- store/restore tab sections state in Workspaces
*) a few icon improvements
*) fix adding multirow widget in correct position
*) fix file upload speed
*) fix crash when opening traceroute result
*) implement table autoscroll when navigating with keyboard
*) fix mouse clicks going through subwindows on some Desktop environments
*) fix crash when filtering IP/DNS/Cache by Data field
*) Do not use OS level proxy settings for connections
*) improve scrolling behaviour
*) fix UI dragging lag on Windows OS
*) move subwindow resize activity zone by a few pixels out of inner content
*) improve scrollbar UX
*) fix opening instance window when switching workspaces
*) make form widgets more compact
Ohhh, yes - tree view for my queues.

Shift + click to select multiple items is nice, but I would like to see count I corner. How many entries are selected.
 
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Are there tables elsewhere than "Files" module?
 
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If you mean about tree view, it will apply to virtual interfaces, sub-queues and such.
 
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Yes, I mean tree view. Does this also apply to virtual wifi-interfaces? Does not look like.
 
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Massive Improvement for me in dark Mode, much more useable.
Thanks for listening, much appreciated.
 
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What's new in v4.0beta12:

*) rework form UI (some visual changes, added anchors)
- clicking anchor (tab) expands target section, collapses other sections and jumps to opened
I love you!!! :)

The only problem is that a scrollbar is located above content and overlaps arrows for group expanding/collapsing.
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Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:01 pm

Progress, but still needs more work. I expected tabs instead of collapsible sections because even if one section is collapsed it can be still huge even with the rest collapsed. Traffic section is a good example for this.

But these visual anomalies must be fixed first.
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:16 pm

Massive Improvement for me in dark Mode, much more useable.
Thanks for listening, much appreciated.
I don't see any substantial change/improvement in dark mode. But can't tell who it looked in previous beta as I use light mode because WinBox dark mode lacks readability/contrast (for me). Whereas I use dark mode throughout my whole system on every app that is aware of my dark system theme setting. Don't know what other app gui designers make different (actually I know, but I don't want to get into detail).
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:23 pm

The Icons are much easyer to find, ie scroll bar etc..
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I'm not saying it's perfect, I'm just saying thanks for giving what i asked for.
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:30 pm

And here's another visual glitch. Both can be found in dark and light mode.
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:38 pm

Any possibility to fix the flashbang when opening the application?
Im guessing its the pre-dark mode GUI that loads first which makes that flash of white that blinds (me at least) for a few seconds.
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:13 pm

MAC Mini M2
Macbook Air M3
Both on macOS Sequoia 15.1.1

Update went smooth on both devices. Like the little anchor box on the right side inside windows. Functionality is much easier. Winbox 4 seems a bit snappier as well.

Agree with the above on the visuals issue

Update: Scrolling left-right using the mousepad now works is macOS
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:20 pm

It took longer, as the biggest change was hard to implement - tree views. Now we will continue with the rest of the requests and ideas in this thread.
The "tree [+list] views" did sound tough...but great work! It's actually quite an improvement over winbox3 in the Files view!

And 100% supportive of @killer129 commentary above, specifically echoing for beta12
  1. Don't be afraid of colors!
... top status bar in dialogs should use COLORS like DISABLED DYNAMIC RUNNING SLAVE etc — i.e. states like DISABLED shouldn't not be green....
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:33 pm

Just updated on MacOS 11.7.10 by the integrated updater. Now Winbox crashes on startup.
*) improve scrollbar UX
Is there an before/after on the improvement? Is it thicker now? Or what changed?
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:43 pm

Taking up enough workspace in the window for a few lines and the general option for "Inline Comments" instead of the individual / window option.... 😢
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Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:24 pm

thx for your hard work, much appreciated
 
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Re: 📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:45 pm

macos big sur 11.7.10

after the update it stopped running. I will open the window about the accident.
Знімок екрана 2024-11-20 о 23.44.50.png
Process:               WinBox [39684]
Path:                  /Applications/WinBox.app/Contents/MacOS/WinBox
Identifier:            my.example.com
Version:               0.1 (0.1)
Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        ??? [1]
Responsible:           WinBox [39684]
User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2024-11-20 23:46:32.948 +0200
OS Version:            macOS 11.7.10 (20G1427)
Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        984B0D01-5D6D-4FE8-FCF1-F6E54B140EA6

Sleep/Wake UUID:       17F8F34A-912B-4D1E-B762-2903E85D5EBA

Time Awake Since Boot: 430000 seconds
Time Since Wake:       6600 seconds

System Integrity Protection: disabled

Crashed Thread:        0

Exception Type:        EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Reason:    DYLD, [0x4] Symbol missing

Application Specific Information:
dyld: launch, loading dependent libraries

Dyld Error Message:
  Symbol not found: _kIOMainPortDefault
  Referenced from: /Applications/WinBox.app/Contents/MacOS/WinBox
  Expected in: /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit
 in /Applications/WinBox.app/Contents/MacOS/WinBox

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macos big sur 11.7.10
Yeah that version seems to be a trend. But Intel-based with MacOS Sequoia does work without crash.
 
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lol, now noticed that winbox 4 macos have my.example.com bundle id 🫨
 
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Happy to have the treeviews back! Interface list is much more accessible if VLANs etc. are grouped underneath the bridges they belong to.

What would be nice is an option to make things in the UI narrower for displaying lots of data for debugging and similar. As shown in the screenshot below there are almost twice as much connection list entries visible in Winbox3 compared to Winbox4 using the exact same screen estate.
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Thank you Mikrotik team for the Treeview.

Massive improvement to my workflows.

Cant wait until the other requests are adopted ! Hopefully we see a full return of the tabs of Winbox3
 
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Many thanks for the improvements in b12, especially the tree view, the "anchors", and reducing dragging lag 👍.

Is this possible to give us the option to use the system fonts (Segoe UI, or even the old Tahoma) under Windows. The Windows' fonts are much better for lower DPI (96dpi) screens, because they have superior hinting and support ClearType, than whatever 3rd party fonts WinBox 4 is currently using. The new fonts are blurry (no Subpixel hinting), even when the characters are much larger than the old fonts in WinBox 3. The information density is worse (fewer visible lines for the same vertical height). And what irritating is that the numeric characters have variable widths, this makes tables with numeric columns less readable:

Here are some screenshots at 92% and 100% "zoom" for comparison on my 96dpi screen (red line to see the alignment issue). For the same height, old WinBox was able to display 50 lines instead of 35 in WinBox 4.


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I forgot how much wasted space there is in WinBox 4:
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Look at all that blank space between the red text and the next line of white text !
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nz_monkey, did you try the mode where comment is in a column? on bigger monitors that saves a lot of vertical space
 
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This does not resolve the general "space-wasting" in the whole UI. I am not against "airy" and "big" UI per se. Proportions must be correct. Its like inflating "Michelin man" to a maximum to look like a balloon.
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Some call it space-wasting, others call it easier readability because text ist not squished together. This is an option, comments have like 4 places you can choose from. Click on the comment header to switch between them, also in the side menu there is a switch.
 
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I think the issue here is that spacing between different items (blue rectangle) is less that spacing of an item and its comment (red rectangle). You should bring that into good proportion.
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Some call it space-wasting, others call it easier readability because text ist not squished together.
I'm not sure there are many folks who like the extra spacing...

And @eworm is right, the comment has more space between the item it refers, than the next/previous item does. It's like the comment is "top aligned" while the item is "bottom aligned". So even without out changing the actual amount of spacing, just allocating the same spacing but more "evenly" would help, since it does look weird today.
 
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Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:01 am

And what irritating is that the numeric characters have variable widths, this makes tables with numeric columns less readable:
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Pls, change the font to some with constant character width or let us choose it in options.
 
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It’s not about the spacing itself; it’s the inconsistency in how spacing is applied. Sometimes elements stick to the top or bottom, and other times there are no gaps at all. It feels freestyle rather than consistent, like you’d expect in a design system.
 
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Linux version 4.0beta12:
when you hover the mouse over a shortcut (e.g. R) in interfaces - it does not show the expansion.
 
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Are you going to change the warning Colours in the Log. ie red/blue, is it still on the list ?
 
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Linux version 4.0beta12:
when you hover the mouse over a shortcut (e.g. R) in interfaces - it does not show the expansion.
You mean the absence of tooltip, right? I'd suspect this is not implemented in v4 yet.
 
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:::::::: Important notice. We are using the Qt framework, as you probably know, but Qt is dropping support for macOS 11 and earlier. We do need to upgrade Qt, to fix the known performance issues in Windows, slow log scrolling etc. People with older Apple computers than 2014-2015. will not be able to upgrade. It is possible to upgrade some of them to macOS 12 in unofficial ways, we can post a tutorial if many people are affected by this. ::::::::::::
 
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No problem. We’ll keep using Winbox 3/Wine for now, since v4 still has too many limitations anyway.
 
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Some call it space-wasting, others call it easier readability because text ist not squished together.
This is an interesting topic, debated among all different kind of SW.
We have our large screens to show more data with less scrolling and less windows overlap.
But nowadays, UI designers and also SW devs tend to think we have large screens to show more empty space between things.

Part of it is likely the young generation grew up with touch optimized UIs made for consuming content. But had no contact with UIs made for creating content by experience users.
 
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Yes, it's true, but we offer multiple ways to display comments. Some have more spacing, some less.
 
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How can I now export all the data from one PC to another, both running Windows?

I would not like to have to configure everything again on the new PC, including the workspace.
 
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Before I have suggested that sessions (now workspaces) would optionally be stored on the router itself.
Of course there is the issue that the workspace is optimized for the resolution of the device and thus may be incompatible with another device, but still I think it would be useful when there is such an option.
(i.e. write the workspace file in the flash space of the router being managed)
 
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Anyone experiencing flickering screen when winbox window is in background and you move the mouse around?
It is very common to open winbox and then work on another window but the winbox window keeps flickering and is quite annoying.
Not possible to attach screenshot, and strangely enough even the native window screen recorder does not capture it.
Currently working on Win11 amd radeon graphics.
Replying to myself, I found what was casuing this flickering when winbox windows is in background.
I disabled the option to "show shadow under windows" in advanced system settings of Window and I am not experiencing it anymore.
 
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Linux version 4.0beta12:
when you hover the mouse over a shortcut (e.g. R) in interfaces - it does not show the expansion.
You mean the absence of tooltip, right? I'd suspect this is not implemented in v4 yet.
Yes.
 
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Finally dropdowns are remembered. Thanks a lot!

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:::::::: Important notice. We are using the Qt framework, as you probably know, but Qt is dropping support for macOS 11 and earlier. We do need to upgrade Qt, to fix the known performance issues in Windows, slow log scrolling etc. People with older Apple computers than 2014-2015. will not be able to upgrade. It is possible to upgrade some of them to macOS 12 in unofficial ways, we can post a tutorial if many people are affected by this. ::::::::::::
thanks for the clarification, time to think about upgrading my mac
 
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VadiKO you can also try to use this tool to install macOS 11 on an older mac: https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/
 
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:::::::: Important notice. We are using the Qt framework, as you probably know, but Qt is dropping support for macOS 11 and earlier. We do need to upgrade Qt, to fix the known performance issues in Windows, slow log scrolling etc. People with older Apple computers than 2014-2015. will not be able to upgrade. It is possible to upgrade some of them to macOS 12 in unofficial ways, we can post a tutorial if many people are affected by this. ::::::::::::
No sentiments. I'll keep on using macos 11.
 
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:::::::: Important notice. We are using the Qt framework, as you probably know, but Qt is dropping support for macOS 11 and earlier. We do need to upgrade Qt, to fix the known performance issues in Windows, slow log scrolling etc. People with older Apple computers than 2014-2015. will not be able to upgrade. It is possible to upgrade some of them to macOS 12 in unofficial ways, we can post a tutorial if many people are affected by this. ::::::::::::
When you are doing this, would you please enable Wayland support for the linux version? People with hidpi displays with fractional scaling would appreciate not to have blurry winbox due to upscaling from the @1X scale.
 
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+1 for bringing over Detail Mode.
When debugging Firewalls and checking VLAN port assignments, I like to use Detail Mode.
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:06 pm

with beta12 WB4 is coming to a useful state more and more.

1 - please change the startup behaviour or save the last state at least to start the "Select from:" menu in the last state or to start in the "Saved" view

2 + 3 - please focus the cursor to the "Password" field after a saved/discovered router is clicked as it was before
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other points:

- "Open in new Windows" still heavily missing - especially when working with RoMON managed routers

- cycle through windows (like in v3 with [F6]) in any form would be nice again. even something like a "opened windows" button
-- this could maybe be placed beside the workspace switcher:
wb4_2_22-11-2024.png

- PLEASE make the columns dragable again finally

- window dragging inside winbox still bit laggy in windows OS

- navigation with curser-keys only working once clicked inside a list (albeit the window is active) - maybe intended behaviour.
-- POS1, END and SHIFT+[cursor-key] not working. also STRG+A to mark all entries not working
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First I wanted to say thank you for porting this. I now have it native on my MAC without Wine running. I am still getting used to the change in scenery, but it is a fresh look.

My biggest issue so far is Torch on the MAC defaults to "TCPMUX" for port. Once "Any" is selected, it shows all the fields like v3 did. On Windows, no matter what option I have selected, it will not show the protocol or port. This is both through the Torch tool, or right-click on the interface and Torch.

I am on Winbox 4.0 Beta 12
 
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I was downloading a package and clicked to open another instance of winbox

Problem Signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: WinBox.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 673d97e0
Faulting Module Name: WinBox.exe
Faulting Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Faulting Module Timestamp: 673d97e0
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0000000000cf9f22
Operating System Version: 10.0.26120.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1046
Additional Information 1: 53d2
Additional Information 2: 53d2161220e6a61b95f3b0caa9f0f9ce
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Additional Information 4: 2cd12f781a3d39532f81ecafcc042cb5

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Where's the close/exit button in the new Winbox v4 client? All I see is "New WinBox" and the ellipsis that just shows settings.

When I log in to a router and set the client to dark mode theme, then I click on New WinBox, the new WinBox session that opens reverts back to light mode.
 
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How do i import saved session to new winbox4

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