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S+RJ10 Alternative For CRS309
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:19 pm
by ConradPino
New ISP provides 10G fiber service but ONT is 10GBase-T (RJ45 copper) only.
Despite MikroTik
S-RJ10 general guidance I tried and also confirmed S+RJ10 is not reliable outside climate controlled environment.
While
FTC11XG looks viable but has a weatherproof price, I want to exhaust other possibilities first.
I have researched MikroTik Forums extensively finding serveral topics confirming temperature issue with some alternative successes mentioned but not in full detail. I hope this post discovers an S+RJ10 alternative success story with exact make and model numbers and ideally some SOHO module temperature data.
Re: S+RJ10 Alternative For CRS309
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:31 pm
by mada3k
All 10GE RJ45 SFPs gets hot. They are made to be used with a forced-air front-to-back switches.
Re: S+RJ10 Alternative For CRS309
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:41 pm
by ConradPino
I found claims
Broadcom BCM84891L devices are low power like:
Built-in Broadcom Chip, Max. Power Consumption 1.8W but at $140.00, more than FTC11XG option which is safest temperature risk.
2.7 Watts for S+RJ10 which idles at 90C at ambient 75F versus 1.8 Watts for new designs leaves me with some room for hope.
Re: S+RJ10 Alternative For CRS309
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:53 pm
by jaclaz
Just an out of the box idea
https://www.printables.com/model/896841 ... ule-cooler
90-100 €/$ difference between a 2.7 W one and a 1.8 W might be a good investment, but sure it is hard on the budget.
Re: S+RJ10 Alternative For CRS309
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:13 am
by cstarritt
I've seen people stick little heatsinks like those made for VRAM chips on the part of the SFP+ module that protrudes from the cage.
Re: S+RJ10 Alternative For CRS309
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:49 am
by ConradPino
@jaclaz, yes the price difference and is 1.8 W enough margin? @cstarritt, agreed heatsink should help but how much help?
When ambient hits 78F recently, S+RJ10 shutdown at 95C standard limit. When ambient hits 96F as happens several days yearly I need to be up.
I pray a proven solution with temperature performance data emerges.
Re: S+RJ10 Alternative For CRS309
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:46 am
by nereith
Fibermall 10G@80m comes with temperature reporting but not NBaseT support.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P32B1Y7
Ubiquiti UACC-CM-RJ45-MG supports 10G@100m and NBaseT but not temperature reporting (on CR309 at least).
Both should be utilizing the more efficient Broadcom chipset.
Re: S+RJ10 Alternative For CRS309
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:57 pm
by jbl42
We had good experiences with Ubiquiti UACC-CM-RJ45-MG. It's about 60€ and we have it working fine in several MT device, including CRS309.
https://eu.store.ui.com/eu/en/category/ ... cm-rj45-mg
It uses one of the latest generations chipsets, max power consumption is 1.9W, compared to more than 3W for S+RJ10.
It still gets hot, about 70-75° on full load. But S+RJ10 goes up to 95° on full load.
There was some progress with 10G coppers SFPs, but driving a 10Gb signal into a copper wire so that there is enough of signal level at the other end requires power. That's just physics.
Re: S+RJ10 Alternative For CRS309
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:42 pm
by ConradPino
Thank you! I would appreciate seeing any module information you may have:
/interface/ethernet/monitor sfp-sfpplusN once without-paging