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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:56 pm

Linus Towards launch Kernel 5.xx, happens probably this summer....
Maybe Mikrotik wait for kernel 5.x :)
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:06 pm

... Just to start waiting for the 6.x kernel...
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:18 pm

All new products with IPQ have driver throughput problems, Mikrotik works with a back ported driver, it would be easier to use the origin one,
but it is only available for newer kernels...
here the delay takes its toll
It becomes more clear that the kernel has been so heavily modified that it is not so easy to upgrade it anymore.
This is of course always a tough decision: do you limit the kernel changes and try to forward them to the kernel development group, which will cause a lot of wasted time due to discussion about how to implement some feature, or do you just "fork" the kernel based on some version uptodate at that time, causing the problem there is now.
On the other hand, when you do all the work on a forked kernel, you are not affected by decisions like the dropping of TILE support in the kernel.
right, and then hang on old drivers, that is exactly what happend
The problem Beginns if you has to support up to date Hardware with this old software!
And now we are standing in the rain, Mikrotik has no timeline for Ros7, flawless ARM Wireless driver, Spectral Scan........
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:35 am

I am still not sure why Mikrotik didn't go with IP Infusion....
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:37 pm

DNF was released in 2011, so ...
so 15 years from version to version. Nice... so we only have another 11 years.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:12 am

I am still not sure why Mikrotik didn't go with IP Infusion....
That is not the problem.

The problem is getting a modern kernel that boots on all of the platforms while supporting hardware offloads.

Just my opinion...
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:19 am


That is not the problem.

The problem is getting a modern kernel that boots on all of the platforms while supporting hardware offloads.

Just my opinion...
To be honest, I think it's both. However I think what you bring up is likely more of the issue though.

I wonder if it's worth it for Mikrotik to just focus on like.....x86-64/ARM/TILE going forward. Not sure if the MIPS devices are still supported to be honest. I also have been hearing that TILE is no longer going to be a supported hardware platform. Which sucks.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:15 am

It was written several times here. Future versions of ros will be running on tilera further. Ros is not affected by this.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:29 am

RouterOS uses very little of open source code. MikroTik is in direct relationship with the CPU manufacturers. We use the official drivers and code. We don't use open source code.
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:44 am

RouterOS uses very little of open source code. MikroTik is in direct relationship with the CPU manufacturers. We use the official drivers and code. We don't use open source code.
Then explain the difficulty's with migrating on to newer Kernel.....
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:56 am

This is the difficulty :D If we were using all open source code, it would be easy to upgrade. Now we must only rely on ourselves to upgrade all programs.
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:04 pm

This is the difficulty :D If we were using all open source code, it would be easy to upgrade. Now we must only rely on ourselves to upgrade all programs.
Do you have any timeline? We are waiting more than 4 year for the VRF support :?
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:09 pm

This is the difficulty :D If we were using all open source code, it would be easy to upgrade. Now we must only rely on ourselves to upgrade all programs.
Is RouterOS 7 going to ship a Linux kernel?
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue May 01, 2018 11:56 am

MikroTik (just like Ubiquiti and many others for that matter) are depending on the hardware (CPU/chipset) manufacturer for major upgrades. Those manufacturers are the ones who provide SDK and drivers (the latter usually in binary form only due to patents), and those drivers cannot be loaded on newer kernel without recompile. If the manufacturer does not supply updated binaries and SDK they cannot update anything.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Fri May 18, 2018 3:13 pm

While I understand it needs some time to make good software, it's getting embarrassing with v7 (or its promised bugfixes). Since 2013 MikroTik promises to fix bugs with v7 (recursive ipv6 nexthops etc), and absolutely NOTHING happens. I'm sorry, but such a product is absolutely unsuitable for professional use.
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