Does quouting quotes of quotes in consecutive post make any sense?

Maybe I am too irritable but I CAN’T UNDERSTAND why quoting whole PRECEDING post is assumed to be a better answer than just sending a short comment?
Why pushing “Post reply” is avoided by readers but “Reply with quote” is not? Do they think that others are unable to follow the stream of information?
I ( and We) have to look through whole quotation to find a few words sentence. These two posts occupy whole FullHD screen.
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BartoszP, being corona-isolated too long and maybe feeling a bit cranky today? Kisses and hugs to you! :slight_smile:

get lost you all :slight_smile:
I’ve registered on this forum just to clarify my misunderstanding,
was confused about last digits in release numbers
Sorry for disturbing hi-qualified professionals with this miserable question

Autist, don’t you bother about persons that sometime get upset for nothing. The absolute majority in this forum are very nice and helpful people so please stay with us. BartoszP probably just needs a big hug to get human again, don’t you think! :slight_smile:

6.46.7 was a very stable version. Installed immediately after release and ran without problems or reboot.
Hopefully 6.46.8 is similarly stable.
Installation already without problems on the CCR1009

-faxxe

I am one of this nice guy, trying to help out whenever I can, BUT I am also one that get irritated when quoting the quoting the quote…

The problem is that some does not know how to post before get educated, or they just does not see the big POST REPLY at the bottom of the post.

Quote should normally be used in two cases.

  1. Pick the part of a post above to show what you do respond to. (can be multiple section)
  2. Respond to a post that is not directly above, to make sure that other understand what to reply to.

Do never ever quote the whole post directly above you. Does not give any sense to do…

Updated a few devices last night without any issues so far. Previous version was 6.45.9. So far these seems to be working (at least for me): cAP, RMB33G and RB951Ui-2nD. Will wait a few more days before rest will be upgraded as well.

Well, forum etiquette is not something you are born with. And in this particular case it’s nothing to pay attention to compared to the BLOB’ed reply. It’s something you need to consider, especially regarding how to treat new forum users. Being nice spreads good vibes for everyone, Cheers!

1229 x 727 pixels ain’t anywhere near FullHD, display scaling on your tiny display doesn’t count.
Cheers.

But the fact that the “+Post Reply” is on a total different place and different color , even mostly off-screen when somebody adds a large attachment, does not help to have people select that bottom button. It is visually not related to the thread, as it is below the “Display posts from previous: All posts Sort by Post time/ Ascending” line.

Actually I use the quote button and then deleted or trim the quote … sometimes to find out that there has come another answer in between … so I have to re-copy the quote before sending.

By the way since 24 hours the mail reminders are missing. They where in the spam folder hours before the point in time where they did not arrive at all. Forum mailserver added somewhere to a spam blacklist?

@Znevna:
Do you want to disscuss? I’m nice. Just asking.
It is only snippet of “invaluable” data as an example. Maybe a I’ve “zoomed” it to make a screenshot smaller?
Consider that browser window frame/border “eats” many pixels, There is a OS tool bar on the screen. There is “favourites” bar. There is forum logo etc. If you want to help just try to focus on the problem of quoting quotes of quotes which get as long as my spaghetti pasta.

To me it rather seems it finally started working as intended - I got a notification about your post, but the last one before was about the one from @BartoszP. I did read the topic before you wrote your post. I.e. the site finally fulfils the promise in the notification body “No more notifications will be sent until you visit the topic.”

So if you get nothing at all, I’d assume the reason is closer to your end. It may be a spam filter of course.

To me it rather seems it finally started working as intended

Yes it’s back. But I had multiple replies in “Your Posts” between 29 oct and 3 nov. No mail, nothing in the local SPAM folder. The ISP must have blocked it. This is mostly if the sending mailserver is in some blacklist. My ISP is probably also using “grey listing”, so a mail that is not retried will never arrive. (My mailbox is part of my ISP subscription.)

Is there a place to post about the forum itself ??
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You’re not alone.

Excessive quoting can be sort of understandable in release threads and such, because they usually contain several sub-topics. And even with preceding post, perhaps poster may be affraid that someone else will manage to post something else before they finish writing theirs, and then the reply won’t be directly after original post and will lose context. I think it’s still not good reason to quote whole post, but ok, it’s not the worst thing.

But then you have people who start their own personal thread about something, where they get responses from just one other person, and they still quote whole posts. I will never undestand that, it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I’m glad I’m not moderator, because I’d be very tempted to do something with that and I could easily go overboard.

And best of all, get two or more overquoters together, and watch them quote everything, it’s a wonderful sight, two screens of quotes and then one new sentence after that. And same for next post. I’ve seen it few times, and I don’t even bother reading such threads, it’s too much for me.

bpwl

I think the General topic is the most common use for Forum itself problems. Maybe PM to admin’s group :).

Few chaotic thinks…
For me good Feature Request should be Community FAQ sections.
I remember times when at Linux Forums we have a [HowTo] thread, FAQ posts… know more now at car forums with [PhotoStory]..
We can write some big threads and do some new post with “reservation” for future.
Old WIKI was in old days more open for edition by PowerUsers :).

I think do some one post as HowTo about LTE stuff because I have a big colections of my answers who are my KB for answering.. .

Maybe new documentation at JIRA will be one official and the wiki will be more open again.

Useful user articles seem to be good place for howtos and FAQs. It just needs a little cleanup from time to time, currently half of existing threads shouldn’t be there.

Some screenshots for those who do not believe how common it is … I searched only today active topics:
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Selfquoting
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And the best of the best http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/new-hap-ac2-as-att-bridge-slow-sites-not-loading/143645/18
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I must add here that for me the understanding the simple edit at that forum was long process… bcs using that elements

is complex with differ EMPTY LINES as breakers, before and after them and it’s even differ per elements.
Thats why my first post have got “.” ← dot char between every of them and I not must press that Preview every and every time.

Now I just use always 2 empty lines and ignore is this is ugly or beautiful.


Second stuff on using “[ quote ][ /quote ]” is just using them. People like be lazy :slight_smile: Move that [ /quote ] to upper part of big quote, paste 2 enters as separators, answer with breaking the quote into parts is just job not for lazy Layer 8 users :slight_smile:

Summary: For proper use quote feature you must be like teacher who like his job and will bear extra work

It is true that it takes some skills (and seems more importantly: time) to nicely format a post on this forum. However I’m in the camp of those who prefer short quotes. And I still believe that pressing “Quote” button and then deleting anything not really relevant from block of quoted text should not be too hard for any forum user. As other users said, it is nice to see a reply with many shor quotes and answer written directly below quoted text … really helps to understand the context of answers.

However, I find that excessive quoting now days seems to became a norm … I’m regularly receiving e-mails with long quoting history … but there quoted text is usually after the reply. Something like 25 years ago intelligent quoting was a norm in e-mail correspondence, but it seems that etiquette diminished with inrush of corporate users to (then) military and academic internet.

Where does that different layout come from? Browser? App? OS related ?
See mine (Windows10, Chrome browser). The “+Post reply” is separated from the post itself , etc
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