External 5G routers

Why there are no external MikroTIK 5G routers on sale?

5G as in “WiFi 5GHz band” or as in “5G the mobile technology”? If the former, then there are a few models. If the later, then I guess we’ll have to wait a bit longer, 5G is still not very mature technology and suitable (to MT) modem modules may not have price tag as low as MT’s market expects.

There are some Quectel M.2 5G modems (RM500U-EA) that cost less than 110 Euro.. This one is cheaper that the module that is in Chateau 5G.
From the specification point of view it looks like that this modem can fit into LHG LTE18 device as a replacement of the Quectel EQ-18EA, but not sure if this will work. Some Quectel RM500 series 5G M.2 modems are already on Mikrotik compatible peripheral list. Maybe someone already tested the possibility to replace LTE18 modem with 5G on LHG.
As the compatible peripheral list contains some M.2 modems (LTE and 5G) im wondering which routerboard can be used with it.

Best regards
Greg

I would also be interested in such a device for the company where I work.
Something like the SXT LTE6 or the ATL LTE18 but then for 5G.
I guess until such a thing is available we need to go for like a Chateau 5G model or something from another vendor.
(it is not really needed to put it outdoor, but it has to be put in another room than the server room to have best coverage)

External (5G NR) devices are usually deployed in remote areas where the connectivity is less than optimal. In that case, what’s the difference between LTE and NR technologies in terms of coverage? Does LTE have an upper edge or NR? Or does the coverage depend largely on the band (or frequency)?

for now I install the chateau 5g outdoor in a electrical box and powering it up with a poe injector used reverse to make the chateau poe “compatible”

pothi is exactly right and raises an interesting question. what’s the use case?

Using it externally at the roof of a building for example it has way better reception from the provider, comparing being in a rack in the basement

So not something like a ATL for long distance, but more like a wAP for the waterproof case, basically

sure but wap (at least lte version that exists) is not even close to the speeds of the chateau.
With the 5g chateau installed on the roof I reach 800+mbps

I tried a wap lte once and it sucked and since then I have installed 10+ 5g chateau nearly all externally in boxes that run very nice and fast

For me, the use case is not “long distances” but the situation where there is a computer room with 19" cabinets in a completely indoor situation, where wireless connectivity is not optimal and/or wireless devices are not wanted.
For that, I would like to connect another device via ethernet (with PoE) that can be located in another place, most likely indoor as well but maybe in some elevator technical room, or otherwise outdoor attached to a wall, and use that only for 5G connectivity.
It does not need an extremely high-gain antenna in my case, but of course it would never(?) hurt.
A chateau 5G has a lot of features that are not required, and misses desirable features like 802.11AT PoE.

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and in some cases I had to force poe on on the poe switch if it would not autodetect it

That does not really help us, because we only have 802.11AF/AT devices that provide 48V and the Chateau 5G can only use up to 28V.
In my current use-case it would be powered from a RB5009UPr+S+ but that also can provide only 48V.

Furthermore, I really do not need 5 ethernet ports, dual-band WiFi, a USB connection, etc. on this device.
We only need a 5G uplink on our existing internet router (that now works on VDSL and has only 65Mbps due to line length, we need a speedup).
That is why a wAP, SXT etc form factor single-port PoE powered device is what would be most convenient.

It’s because of the much lower cost modem. If there would be a wAP size device with the modem of a Chateau, it would get the same speed (at a much higher price).

Is it possible to quickly hack something like that together (a different modem card in the existing wAP) or would that be a major new development?

This topic has some experiment results http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/rbm33g-5g/150967/1

Do you consider selling a 5G card that would directly fit in an LTE product like wAP LTE or SXT LTE to replace the LTE card?
(similar to the R11eL series of cards currently in the catalog)

It seems one issue is that most 5G modem cards on the market are M.2 instead of MiniPCI-e so an adapter is to be used, with possible problems of physical fit.

or you could use one more poe injector just for the chateau and use its own power adapter. So you would need 2x poe injectors and 1x male2male adapter

of course I would also prefer a proper outdoor device that I wouldn’t need to worry for the temperature as well and simplify all the adaptors that I (need to) use at the moment.
Oh and keep similar price :slight_smile: