hAP ax lite

From a user perspective:
For me the major plus in AX is not speed (it is there though not 90% :laughing: ) but more connectivity (as compared to AC3).
Two really thick brick walls and a concrete floor and still I get acceptable connection.

will be nice to test this hAP ax lite wifi 6 with a client device like ESP32-C6 Wi-Fi 6

It is very bad that the devices have a very narrow power range, unlike other devices Mikrotik.
The photo shows the Hap Lite after the 12 V supply.
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Installing this module instead of the burnt out one allows you to change the power range to max 15V

@Normis.
The possibility of connecting PWR-LINE via USB -C port remains?

Proposal to release a “USB -PWR-LINE converter” device, with which you can connect Mikrotik with USB power to the computer, thus adding another port to the device. It would be very convenient to connect to a laptop with one usb cable, for example a map lite.
Or in the new line to install a full-fledged USB-C port with a driver to connect the device to the computer.

How you provide 12V to a device that work by USB @ 5V???

And this is the old hAP n lite, nothing to do with hAP ax lite…

It wasn’t me, they brought it in for repair.
But this case is quite common. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF2zbfIyOEs
People are trying to provide backup power to access the Internet, in the absence of electricity
ONU is powered from 12 V, that’s the trouble with unskilled users

I am writing in this thread that the “diseases” of the predecessor did not pass to the new device

I understand, and I am saddened by it… :cry:

USB-C port is for power ONLY on hAP ax Lite.

Installing this module instead of the burnt out one allows you to change the power range to max 15V

I imagine this module is not for free? Is the added cost really worth it, instead of educating user to use included power adapter ?

But module in this picture is linear regulator ? Why not switching regulator ? They are not much more expensive than this module.

Voltage diference will be burned in regulator, so if you need 5V and 500 mA, that’s 2.5W for router, but if you have 15V at 500 mA then that is 7.5W at the input side, you are burning 5W in this SOT package. That’s a lot of wasted power… And heat in this small regulator…

Mikrotik have switching regulators, so they are more efficient and in this picture input is 5V USB so there is no need to have wide input range and probably this regulator is much more efficient. Mikrotik’s with barrel jacks have wide input range switching regulators for the same reason.

In our country right now there is a shortage of everything that relates to alternative power supply, you have to use what is available. Of course it is better to use a DC-DC converter.
Among other things, there are difficulties with the purchase of a Hap Lite. Distributor expects delivery to their warehouse on February 14, plus 3-4 days delivery service, have to repair.

Please stick to topic, this is about newly announed hAP ax Lite, which is not shipping yet, and which is compatible with many kinds of USB 5V adapters, as long as they provide enough amps.

It’s great travel router, can be powered by power bank or can be plugged in car charger. It would be great if you make version with LTE modem perhaps ? or 5G :smiley: with different price point ofc.

Is a different case version planned, like the previous Hap lite version?

We have the Hap lite TC version cheaper because users prefer the classic case.

@normis

What will be the minimum ROS version to support the hap ax lite? In other words, what version will the first batch be shipped with?

Are there plans to support hw offloading vlan-filtering on the MT7531BE switch ASIC? Will other switch features like “port isolation” also be supported? (edit: I just looked at Switch Chip Features and see that the MT7531 is now grouped with the MT7621, so I will assume anything that can be done on the RB750Gr3 or RB760iGS can be done on the hAP ac lite (other than add a 5th device). And the 2.5G link to the CPU should be a performance advantage). (edit2: This page says the MT7531 has 5 Ethernet Phy and two CPU ports (similar to the MT7530 built into the MT7621), which leads to the question as to why the device has only 4 ports, which leave only 3 available after one is used for the internet connection. Cost is probably the reason. Just looking for a replacement for the hEX that supports zerotier and has at least as good of performance.

Edit3. Does the hap ax lite have better bridge performance than the hAP ax² (because of the switch ASIC). The block diagram for the hAP ax² isn’t very specific about the “switch” that is integrated with the IPQ-6010 SOC).

Thanks for uploading the block diagram.

P.S. the “manual” still shows CPU @ 1GHz. It was mentioned in the youtube video this typo would be fixed (since it is 800Mhz)

Expansion slots and ports
Product code L41G-2axD
CPU Dual-Core IPQ-5010 1 GHz
CPU architecture ARM 64bit (RouterOS 32bit)

Since this is Arm64 can you confirm that it supports ZeroTier?

specs says

Operating System	RouterOS v7

obviously a new product will not be ported to old software

Pure logic ?
Wave2 drivers (which AX needs) are not available on ROS6.

My guess is it will be 7.6, maybe already 7.7.

I just think “real” USB-C – including data + 12V – would be nice in this class of device. So many use cases for that, even if that comes at slightly higher price than the hAPax-lite.

But it be more useful as a “travel router” if any USB-C thing could power – no need to bring the specific included cable too.

Also you get switch chip with bridge vlan filtering (i hope so):wink: actually in this device I personally do not like only the case .. from travel prospective

Hello,

does hAP AX Lite has IPSec/AES hw acceleration or not?

Thx.

not

not until now

but, even if that support is announced, dont expect it to be available inmediatly

Mine is arriving Monday.