Hello,
I am looking for a more powerful replacement for the hAPac3.
Unfortunately so far unsuccessful:
L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN - only 2.4GHz, very very weak performance. Instead of IPQ-5018, it should have been IPQ-6010 and 1GB of RAM.
How can hAPax3 be more powerful ???
RB5009UG+S+IN - not yet available with wifi6. Are you planning a model with wifi6 from this series for September 2023?
-hAP ax3 - is a natural successor, but the SFP port (for optics) is missing and the design is not universal. The connection of the original 2.5Gbit port with POE in/out is also not quite ideal.
Is there really no other option?
Please do not complicate your product lines. It’s not always just about the price.
I am not sure where you are comparing your facts but the natural successor for AC3 is AX3.
And it is more powerful.
As a router about 30% faster (check test results).
For wifi the difference might be more noticeable (even when applying wifiwave2 on AC3).
Hello,
I don’t know if comparing me to Chat GPT is a compliment or not, but the post was written by a human (and a bit of translator…).
And now I would like to write how I meant it:
I bought hAPac3 years ago because it suited me.
now that fiber and faster speeds are common, I would need (as your videos also suggest) to upgrade. That’s why I’m looking for a replacement for the original router, but no mikrotik offers a higher level of the original router with SFP.
I think it’s not enough to just upgrade the 802.11ac radio to ax (and a usb 3.0 port, 2.5Gbps port). As a replacement for the hAPac3, I would prefer the L009UiGS-2HaxD-IN, even though it only has a 2.4GHz radio. Well, however, I looked at the performance (Ethernet test result on Mtik page) and I was disappointed, it does not reach the performance of hAPax3 (what I would expect). I understand that the L009 is a successor to another product, the RB2011 (but there was also no hAPac3 at the time, as far as I know).
The L009 was supposed to have an IPQ-6010 processor and 1GB of RAM, which would make it the right replacement for the hAPac3, but at the same time it would attack the position of the RB5009UG. (anyway, in my mind I think that’s how the techs designed it. $20 extra wouldn’t hurt.)
It is not enough to just upgrade the products (innovate the already created feature packages), I think and recommend redesigning the feature packages.
PS: I don’t even like the visual design of the box for the hAPxx3 product. I just wanted to draw attention to the different meanings of the word design - proposal and design - visual.
Otherwise, great work, I just didn’t want to criticize.
I don’t think the hAP ax3 has much of a future. Anyone buying a Mikrotik wants something like the L009 but with hAP ax3 performance.
Either you don’t invest in market research, or you do, and you get the wrong conclusions. (This is the opinion of a practitioner, not a marketer).
Don’t know about that.
Most competing products have 4 to 5 ether ports, same as hAP AX2/3.
I have RB5009 at home as central router and AX2 and AX3 as AP with wired devices connected to each of those.
And CAP AX for home ? No way I am hanging THAT on my ceiling, how good it may be.
In warehouse and office environment, no problem. But definitely not at home.
It doesn’t pass the “wife test”
It’s not that bad… If you put it behind TV like I did
Anyway, my setup now is RB5009 and 2 cAP ax behind TV’s upstairs and downstairs… and before anyone say to me that I need to mount them on the ceiling I will quote my wife: “There is no fu**** way you are putting that on ceiling…”
Or make us happy with something like HAP AX 3 but with all 2.5gbe ports and 160mhz support for wireless so I can actualy have full use of 2gbit internet my Isp gives me .
You already have a somewhat official statement, and nobody knows what MT will offer in the next 24 months with Wi-Fi 7 around the corner. However, it’s been clear for a long time that a Wi-Fi RB5009 would not be offered - a video was available years ago online (in Russian I believe) explaining that the form factor couldn’t accommodate radios. Since then, the emphasis has been clearly on more consumer oriented offerings, where margins are probably more interesting for MT (plastic boxes are surely cheaper to make).
I do not believe any other vendor offers anything close to the 5009 for home users at this point when paired with APs, since having multi gig ports and being able to use them at full throughput are two different things.
BTW, the RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN, which was the only version available locally when I purchased it before v7 was launched, received so much flak here that it’s hardly surprising that an updated version was never offered.
What flak? The only big problem of that model is that its 2.4GHz wireless chip is not supported by wifiwave2, otherwise it’s a great device (even the two switch-chip oddity is survivable).
People were complaining about the bad Wi-Fi performance with early firmware versions and many experienced long time forums users were probably strongly recommending the basic version for that reason (I will not name them…this is arguing over a dead horse at this point). I personally had to stay on the factory firmware for a long time. Wi-Fi performance with MT is still a subject of very heated discussions to this day. I don’t post often, but I visit these forums regularly and the MT Reddit as well. YMMV.
Don’t get me wrong, I still love mine, never had any major issues on v6, but IMO this didn’t look like a unanimous opinion here when this router was still relevant. I decided that I had better things to do than argue with people who didn’t even own the router. This is a bad purchase in 2023 regardless. I could be mistaken and since I admittedly do not work for MT, I have no idea how many units were sold vs the non Wi-Fi version. BTW, I agree with the OP that the current AIO offerings are disappointing…
Otherwise, great work, I just didn’t want to criticize. 
