Would like to see the wAP AC line updated with hAP x2 innards. Don’t want install hAP x2 because they look like little switches to clients.
MU-MIMO doesn’t work well with only 2 chains/antennae on AP
OFDMA helps where there are many concurrent users (not likely in SOHO environment)
Beamforming doesn’t work well with only 2 antennae … unlike hAP ax2 Audience actually does have 4 antennae and can support beam forming properly
Target Wake Time helps with latency of inactive devices, not something most users care about
BSS … what exactly do you mean by that?
1024QAM helps in great radio conditions, i.e. when station is a few metres away from AP and there’s no obstruction between both … If station can not maintain connection at maximum rate on older APs (e.g. 866Mbps on AC AP), then 1024QAM won’t be used much
Yes, there are features of hAP ax2 which give it clear advantage over Audience in certain use cases. But I have my doubts about absolute superiority of hAP ax2 over Audienceand I expressed them pretty mildly (compared to other posts in this thread).
There have been reports of having not great signal strength from hAP ax2 (I certainly hope it’s a fixable issue; lower signal strength almost always means worse performance, defeating some of benefits of ax). I don’t think that MT commented in those threads so reaction by @Normis to my previous post is, IMO, over reaction.
I’m not a sales guy, but maybe saying they’re both great devices be a better approach? Or just “AX is more future proof & it’s what I use”. Or our support team is here if you have problems… Than attacking your customers for sharing. 
But publishing some polar plots of the antennas or other wireless performance data for your devices help with these sorts of decisions. The Audience has higher gain and more chains, if you don’t have AX devices, that should perform better, no?
If MT wifi products had decent documentation, clear paths to setup, and users could understand all the available features and
setup the APs with relative ease and they worked and provided consistent stable throughput, perhaps nOrmands you would have a leg to stand on to “get aggressive with mkx”.
Clearly this is not the case going through all the forum posts. As AMMO alluded far more transparency on capabilities and planned work would smooth over disgruntled feathers somewhat.
I pointed out the need for MT to get serious about WIFI and hire BPWL for example to take 6mos-1yr to work with your engineers to decipher what the equipment could do should do and how to write up documentation so success can be achieved fairly regularly. No, instead MT continues to push what looks like half finished products out the door, with promises of functionality that have been on other wifi router for probably a decade, with other functions on previous models but missing on newer ones, and generally wifi6 functionality that is not clear to comprehend or use, why show 80+ or 160 if its not actually available… All in all a hot confusing mess and nowhere near the quality of lets say the RB5009.
http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/mikrotik-hap-ax3-poor-wifi-performance/163692/1
http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/mikrotik-hap-ax3-poor-wifi-performance/163692/1
http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/mikrotik-hap-ax3-poor-wifi-performance/163692/1
I have an AX3 sitting in another room and got family to buy one in Europe, hopefully I will get the courage to play with it but I am really waiting for someone else to actually figure it all out because I dont have the time or patience. I tried a couple of times and got so bogged down in the menus that I gave up. I have a tplink eap243 that crushed any wifi5 offering from MT and so far the TPLink EAP660HD seems like a decent wifi6 option, however when I see (but dont believe) some forum users getting 900Mpbs on an AXE3, which would be awesome and amazing if true and we could dispense with talking about any other options!!!, BUT HOW COME its seemingly a rare thing for people to achieve??? I think I am going to buy a zyxel WIFI6E AP model and see how that goes… Tad more expensive aka double the cost, but if it actually works out of the box…its worth it!
Summary: RoS combined with crappy wifi/wifi wave2package is an INSULTINGLY poor companion to the fabulous RoS and pushes clients towards other solutions.
Did you have chance to test AX3?
@Rox169
You did not see “I tried a couple of times and got so bogged down in the menus that I gave up.” learn how to read 
Well, it is difficult to believe that a guy who can spot a WG/firewall/bridge-vlan issue from outer space in seconds is having trouble 
My question to @anav, is if you reset to defaults, connect your WAN, perhaps set “Canada” in QuickSet if not already, how well does the default Wi-Fi settings work? That be a good baseline to know .
I already provided him my working baseline (ok, for Belgium …).
Didn’t hear back from him on that one.
I think where most people freak out with wifiwave2 is on the menu structure. If you have experience with capsman, it’s pretty similar so the learning curve is rather small.
But if you never used capsman before (and I think to know anav hates it to death 
) the step to wifiwave2 can be “challenging”.
The fact quite some things are being added as versions pass by and some even only via CLI, doesn’t help right now, I admit that.
But as you say, for someone able to spot VLAN-issues from the other side of the globe, wifiwave2 should be easy-peasy.
I wish it were true. If I wanted set to defaults and that was it, I wouldnt buy MT for wifi.
MT for wifi should provide the ability for the user to setup the config optimized for ones particular scenario.
The structure and presentation should lead to a logical setup methodology.
So far all I see is inter-connected menus that step all over each other leading no where.
They have added a gazillion menu items but one needs bpwl on steroids to make sense of most off them.
As for vlans, I owe any skills I have to finding my multitude of repeatable mistakes, to sindy being a damn perfectionist, think YODA with a big cane!
The only reason I find stuff, is oh yeah I made that dumb mistake 10 times already and to be honest also watching mks solve a thread right under my nose, with a better eagle eye…
said fondly of course!!
I guess the question is how bad does it start out of the box. e.g. does it even need optimizing?
Not to pick a fight for sure. But QuickSet does have modes at top left. e.g. if I plug a LTE modem into the AX3 USB, QuickSet then offers the options to set the APN etc. and switches to that configuration mode. That’s pretty smart I think.
If the question is should they help more for the VLAN-your-network stuff, different question than Audience vs AX.
On the topic, the USB port is handy, and not on Audience (or AX2 for that matter)…