I wanted device that will be able to connect to my wifi and send it through cable and was recommended hAP AC2, as it “will be able to do whatever I want” but i have some issues with it.
I have the same problem of “5GHz undetectable” on hAP ac3
Even better, in CPE:
Obviously a bug.
All the advice here seems somewhat relevant:
http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/hap-ac2/139187/1
Are you using “quickset CPE” mode? I am almost (but not 100%) sure that if so,
the “station WLAN” interface used to connect to another AP is 2.4Ghz.When searching for the network, make sure you are using wlan2 interface on you hAP ac2.
make sure your wireless installation type is set to “Any” or “Outdoor” rather than “Indoor”.
set the Country (regulatory domain, also set the antenna gain to minimal 3 … or the country will not be accepted).
Either way, looks like manual work awaits.
Have you gotten anywhere yourself?
I recommend using Winbox to make better configurations.
If you use the 5 GHz. radio cannot find this is possible because you have not set the country settings.
Or the radio is in client mode.
The wireless is a buggy mess on MikroTik in general. Just checking my wireless settings causes the interface to reset (not changing anything!). On my 4011+, the defaults don’t even enable the 5 GHz radio at all (invalid range message). I need to change the channel width and play with the bands used before both radios work and give good bandwidth on all my devices. Even then, the 5 GHz resets once in a while for no apparent reason (wlan1 disconnected). The HAP ac2 is actually much easier to setup, but has lackluster wireless performance overall with many devices.
It’s a shame…everything else is way above their respective price points. Hopefully, the devs will put some serious effort in fixing these issues before releasing any new products. There are too many complaints here and elsewhere about this…
The hAp ac2 is not buggy nor difficult to manage.Only “Quickset” is just a starting point. The number of options are very limited.
The real thing is the Winbox or webfig connect.
Never go back to Quickset when Winbox or Webfig has been used to configure.
You want to connect to your Wifi. So one WLAN will be set to “station bridge”. If this is a non-Mikrotik wifi then “station-pseudobridge” will be used for a bridged connection..
(You can make a Home AP connection as well with one “station” WLAN interface and routing and NAT.)
From here on you define the wireless access with Winbox or Webfig to your hAP ac2. Lets assume ‘bridged connection’, e.g. all IP addresses will be given by your wifi uplink.
Create all the WLAN’s you need. (On the station WLAN interface add a virtual WLAN with “AP bridge” mode). Add all ethernet interfaces and all WLAN interfaces to the bridge as port.
You configure the wifi according the standards and international rules. Set Frequency mode to ‘regulatory domain’ and select the correct country !!!
For the WLAN with the station mode, most settings come from your wifi network you connect to.
On the other WLAN you must set mode=“AP bridge”/band/channel width/frequency/SSID/security.
For 5 GHz you must understand the DFS channels, these will be silent for 1 minute or even 10 minutes whenever touched (e.g. hitting “apply”) or whenever changed.
When properly configured wifi does not reset for months.
Hi,
We must be using different definitions of “buggy” 
As I wrote before, the “Starting point”, Quickset, fails at logic:
“Band” ONLY allows displaying of 5GHz networks (bug 1, card supports 2.4 too)
But DESPITE the “5GHz” constraint, it scans 2.4GHz networks. ONLY 2.4GHz networks, 5GHz are not detected (bug 2)
Yes, country has been set. Its choice makes no difference,
Also, the more advanced options ARE, in fact, “difficult to manage” for someone not already proficient, when you don’t get to see a working example (created by quickset) as a point of reference, and experimenting costs time because you will often lose connection and not learn a thing (e.g. “both WiFI APs remain active, I can connect, but I suddenly can’t access the router config via winbox; WHY!?”).
Thank you for suggesting a configuration, but I don’t intend to use “station-pseudobridge” as it “should be avoided when possible” (https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Wireless_Station_Modes). From what I’ve read (admittedly little), “station” would suffice for my needs.
The hAp ac2 is not buggy nor difficult to manage.
Hi,
We must be using different definitions of “buggy”As I wrote before, the “Starting point”, Quickset, fails at logic:
“Band” ONLY allows displaying of 5GHz networks (bug 1, card supports 2.4 too)
But DESPITE the “5GHz” constraint, it scans 2.4GHz networks. ONLY 2.4GHz networks, 5GHz are not detected (bug 2)
Yes, country has been set. Its choice makes no difference,
Well we may use different definitions, and wifi working is very contra-intuitive, and to setup a Mikrotik knowing the workings of wifi is a great help.
So let me comment, to share what I have learned. (And I learned a lot about wifi thanks to Mikrotik). Quickset fails by design as it gives just some examples out of the thousands of possibilities.
Channel regulation is for every brand of wifi devices mandatory. Other brands sell you devices locked to your country. In Mikrotik you can/have-to set it.
“Band only displays 5 GHz”: in the hAP ac2 thare are 2 radio’s. WLAN1 is 2.4 GHz , WLAN2 is 5 GHz. See it as 2 cards, one for 2.4 GHz and one for 5 GHz.
“DESPITE the “5GHz” constraint, it scans 2.4GHz networks. ONLY 2.4GHz networks, 5GHz are not detected” ; if you set WLAN1 in the scan window you will only scan 2.4 GHz, if you set WLAN2 in the SCAN window you will only scan 5 GHz.
The frequencies you can select in 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz do depend on the country set. The Mikrotik comes out of the box with “no_country_set” and uses the FCC list of frequencies. The other big group of countries is the ETSI European regulation. In 2.4 GHz the differences are minimal (FCC=1 till 11, ETSI = 1 till 13). In the 5 GHz the differences are very important. (FCC higher power, mostly if not all non-DFS channels) (ETSI allows lower power, limits channel 38-64 to indoor only, and 100-140 allowed outdoor are all DFS channels). So setting the country is a major difference for 5 GHz.
I never use Quickset. What is CPE? What will it chose as WLAN radio? Which setting in that interface? How will it set the AP function? How will it interconnect those interfaces ?
If CPE connects via WLAN1 and distributes via WLAN2, then it will only allow 5 GHz freq setting , and only allow 2.4 GHz scan. That’s only one of the 6 possible combinations for CPE.
The Mikrotik is a LEGO like device. You can make almost everything out of the same device. The building blocks are simple, the possible combinations are in high number.
Quickset is just that example printed on the box. It is almost certainly not what you need.
Also, the more advanced options ARE, in fact, “difficult to manage” for someone not already proficient, when you don’t get to see a working example (created by quickset) as a point of reference, and experimenting costs time because you will often lose connection and not learn a thing (e.g. “both WiFI APs remain active, I can connect, but I suddenly can’t access the router config via winbox; WHY!?”).
You get a working example after Quickset. Quickset can be a better starting point than the default config. The created configuration is fully available in WinBox or Webfig for viewing and editing.
Loosing connection when changing configuration is quite normal if you change the connection you are using. Mikrotik has better connection possibilities than any other brand I know. Winbox and Telnet MAC based connection are very helpfull. Just know these 2 simple things:
I would also like to add that Mikrotik is not that messy. Obviously not perfect, but it isn’t that buggy as users say.
Pretty much sums up to this:
I mean you are dealing with enterprise-grade equipment. Defaults can be used for starting point only, but once you get an idea how RouterOS (or networking) works, you might stop using QuickSet completely and build everything manually.
Hi, @bpwl, thank you for your time,
though I feel at least one of us is failing to get something across… Please take a look below and check if you can spot anything.
That’s what I wanted: an example of a setup that connects to “My5GHzAP” and shares that connection with its own Ethernet clients.
Looking at https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Quickset, CPE is EXACTLY what I need.
BTW, I do not call a limited set of options in QuickSet, a failure.
And yes, I bought a Mikrotik EXACTLY because it is so configurable. Almost nothing else even offers “client” mode.
Not relevant? The choice of country has NO impact on the strange behavior I described
I had not noticed that wlan2 could ONLY do 5GHz.
/interface wireless print gives me:
“band=2ghz-b/g/n channel-width=20/40mhz-XX” for wlan1,
“band=5ghz-a/n/ac channel-width=20/40/80mhz-XXXX” for wlan2
I thought those were just the current settings, not the hardware limitations.
Either way, not something a user of QuickSet should be expected to know or care about.
CPE Quickset does not offer che choice of WLAN interface to scan on.
That’s only available in Wireless / WiFi Interfaces / Scanner
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Quickset#Modes. Beyond that, I don’t care, just wanted something working to start with and modify later (routing/bridging example)
Now THIS, I don’t get a single bit.
I assume that the Wireless section of CPE QuickSet (see pic above) ONLY concerns the interface used to connect to another AP, the other is not even touched yet.
You choose the parameters, and get back a list of matching APs to connect to.
No, I get a logic fail instead, which leaves me questioning everything rather than proceeding to do what I had intended to.
QuickSet says:
I expected to lose connection (safe mode is not for me). I also expected to be able to reconnect afterwards. Instead, while I could connect to both APs on the hAP, WinBox could not connect to settings on either.
What does the management MAC have to do with this?
@erkexzcx
Sounding as though you have not actually read my posts aside, why do you believe the “look at all the 2.4GHz APs I have found as per your request for 5GHz APs” thing (see above) is by design, proper, and obvious?
Anyway, everyone agrees that QuickSet is (supposed to be) a good starting point. NO ONE questions that, so please, let’s not reiterate that point.
what I wanted: an example of a setup that connects to “My5GHzAP” and shares that connection with its own Ethernet clients.
Looking at > https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Quickset> , CPE is EXACTLY what I need.
No, it’s not because
CPE Quickset does not offer che choice of WLAN interface to scan on.
That’s only available in Wireless / WiFi Interfaces / Scanner
I’ll stop wasting my time here because of …
I thought those were just
Beyond that, I don’t care, just wanted something working
I had not noticed that wlan2 could ONLY do 5GHz.
I assume that the Wireless section of CPE QuickSet (see pic above) ONLY concerns the interface
I expected to lose connection (safe mode is not for me). I also expected to be able to reconnect afterwards.
What does the management MAC have to do with this?
Anyway, everyone agrees that QuickSet is (supposed to be) a good starting point. NO ONE questions that, so please, let’s not reiterate that point.
bpwl is bailing, would someone please explain his parting words, to me? Please?
I do not see how his explanation… explains anything.
Please see the picture:
CPE Quickset is by no means what you are looking for. It would rather be WISP AP, but this again is for devices with one WLAN interface.
“Home AP dual” and “Home mesh” are the only quicksets that handle a 2 WLAN configuration, but they have no WISP (or CPE) functionality.
Not a single Quickset comes close to what you want. " setup that connects to “My5GHzAP” and shares that connection with its own Ethernet clients."
CPE Quickset is created for single WLAN devices. It does not work on devices with more than one WLAN interface.
CPE Router
In this type of configurations router is configured as wireless client device. WAN interface is Wireless interface. WAN port has configured DHCP client, is protected by IP firewall and MAC discovery/connection is disabled.
List of routers using this type of configuration:
RB 711,911,912,921,922 - with level3 license
SXT
QRT
SEXTANT
LHG
LDF
DISC
Groove
Metal
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Start from default and change the ap-bridge in WLAN2 to station-bridge, scan and connect.
Create all the WLAN’s you need. (On the station WLAN interface add a virtual WLAN with “AP bridge” mode). Add all ethernet interfaces and all WLAN interfaces to the bridge as port.
Make a virtual WLAN on it and add an AP-bridge to that WLAN2 radio. Add WLAN3 to the bridge.
Another way to get that is select WLAN2 and hit “Setup Repeater”.
EDIT for clarity: “CPE” → “CPE Quickset”
Bottom line: no one even cares if quickset is buggy, because no one is using it.
At least for scenarios more complex, then the home ap.
Simply no point - you will need to redo most of the config anyway, so why not start from blank?!
OK, enough, I don’t care that you’re a “forum guru” and I, a lowly neophyte;
I’m calling you out: you are either trolling me, or both:
The AP options you write about - being AP - have WAN on Ethernet and serve WiFi clients - the OPPOSITE of ‘setup that connects to “My5GHzAP” and shares that connection with its own Ethernet clients.’
CPE’s “WAN interface is Wireless interface” sounds exactly right.
And it makes not an iota of difference that I have two WiFi interfaces.
nrn.
Here is the deal mamert. BPWL is one of the most respected and genteel posters here, and extremely knowledgeable.
Your disrespect will get you nowhere, and I certainly will not help you and I imagine after your last post few will chime in.
Gluck, and the quicker you leave the better, or not your choice, but I hope you like listening to crickets .
I do note that this is Hiran’s thread, not yours anyway!
Here are the steps required to set a hAPac2 as a 5ghz CPE with the and 5 ethernet ports on the LAN. Once you go past step 3 you should not make any changes on the Quick Set page. You will not be able to scan for 5 ghz signals on the Quick Set page. USE Winbox for making the changes. If you must use the Quick Set page for scanning and connecting then you need different hardware; either a single radio 5ghz device like the omniTIK 5 or a single dual band radio like the Groove 52 series. The OmniTIK 5 would just need to have the radio set as a CPE/NAT-Router and the Groove 52’s generally are set as CPE by default.
Thank you, @w32pamela, for your answer! It is very detailed (you obviously went throgh the steps yourself) and has something the others lacked. Relevance.
I have followed your advice on my ac3, with adjustments:
3. There was no “Bridge all Lan Ports” check mark (on v.6.47.8), skipped
4. wlan2 (2.4GHz) NOT removed, I guess you meant to remove wlan1 (5GHz) if it was there (it was not)
9. I gave wlan2 (2.4GHz) its own security profile, rather than default
So I have wlan1 (5GHz) as station and wlan2 (2.4GHz) as ap bridge
Thank you very much 
You have saved me a lot of research and given me a working setup
@Hiran (OP), this helps with 5GHz scanning. For the connection loss, try using WinBox to find “neighbors” and connect via MAC.