Hi all,
are there alternative documentation available on MT?
Personally I found online manual and wiki not enough clear and detailed, especially on routing (http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/2.9/ip/flow.php) and Mangle ( http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/2.9/ip/mangle.php)
Best regards
what exactly was not clear for you? those are actually general topics, maybe you are looking for TCP/IP training and not RouterOS specifics? You won’t find it in there
In my opinion (may be I’m wrong), following sections need to be enhanced:
-Packet Flow
-chains mechanism (input, output, forward, prerouting, postrouting) is not clear enough. It is difficult to understand the chain type that best fits several situations. Application examples may help
-Mangle
-mark-connection, mark-packet, mark-routing, passthrough usage. Application examples may help
Best regards
I think you should attend a Training+MUM joined event …
each document you are mentioning here have pointers where to look if something is not clear/not explained
if documents create loop, that you should look on all of them and look at parts that describe what you need
for example:
passthrough - means that packets are processed and then passed or not passed to the next rule in chain for further processing, that comes from firewall, so if you know what passthrough means in firewall you know what this means in mangle
mark-routing - if you read about routing you will see that you can use routing-marks to send packets through one or another gateway. in mangle you can set these marks and by that you know meaning of routing-marks from routing
if you read about queues (queue tree) you will see that there you can use packet marks to limit/shape traffic. to set up packet-marks effectively (not using a lot of resources) you mark new connection with connection mark and after that just see connection mark in chain you need and mark the packets. so, you set in mark-connection rule passthrough=yes in packet-mark set it to no, as there are no further processing needed.
and most important topic - CHAINS
you have to understand what that means. you can see in packet flow diagram where different chains reside, and when you have to access one or another chain.
you have to understand that when packets are processed it is done in chains, so, when processing in one chain is finished then packets go further, you can see that in packet flow.
and as normis suggested - attend training + MUM as this will boost your knowledge about RouterOS and its capabilities
i hope i expressed my self clear enough
Thank you janisk/Normis,
yes you where clear enough…
I think that documents like this http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/2007_1/PL07_Citraweb.pdf might help into MT understanding. Unfortunately such a detailed documentation is not available on online manual, but users (like me) need to search it around MT web site.
In my opinion MT is a valid (and cheap) alternative to Ci$co and other OS, but a great effort need to be done on documentation available. E.G., if I need to do a configuration with Cisco IOS, I don’t have to attend a Cisco course or to became a CCNA/CCNP/CCIE certified, because there are tons of material on Cisco web site (and around the Net) that explain how to achieve the desired results.
Regarding MT, yes I’d like very much to travel to Argentina @ next MUM or to attend a MT training course, but if I cannot (or I don’t want to) do this, I should have the possibility to deeply understand MT as well, without searching around MT web site or annoying advanced users with posts on this forum. This might be the way (in my opinion) to reach your objective: “Route the World”.
Best regards
bear in mind that this is a router, a very complicated system. good understanding of TCP/IP and the ip flow is actually somewhat of a requirement to use it. MUM is a cheap/free event, and if it is taking place near you, I highly recommend attending it.
Actually if you look through all the links on top of this page (to the right, next to the R52 image), you will find a lot of good stuff. Including videos from the MUMs