Newsletter 71

In this MikroTik newsletter:

  • new low-cost 5GHz 24.5dBi CPE/backbone LHG 5, $59
  • new Dual concurrent 2.4 / 5GHz 3x3 Access Point hAP ac, $129
  • new software selectable 2.4 / 5Ghz Metal with AC support, $119
  • new low-cost 911 ac lite board for integrators, $49
  • upcoming MUM schedule

Download the newsletter here:
http://mt.lv/news71

Pretty nice news.
But LHG should be ac and with gigabit ethernet.

If you need AC and gigabit Ethernet, just choose DynaDish.

LHG Cost only $59. It’s Low End Device

+1 !!!

I like the design on that LHG5 , but I haven’t bought a non AC P2P now for yonks.We can run tighter channels on AC and get decent speeds results for our small branch offices.


Can I just get a confirmation.Can the Metal 52 AC work in 2 bands at the same time when functioning in AP mode ? From what I can tell from the brochure it only works in one at a time ? I’m sure it can but just want confirmation as it looks almost perfect for a new site we have to do in the near future.

I’ll make some comments regarding the LHG5 a bit later on.

In my opinion LHG5 is gonna be another missing the point device..

  • this DISH will COLLECT SNOW , didn’t anybody think of it while designing??? LIGHT SNOW/freezing rain and there will be a PROBLEM!
  • 802.11an without AC on BACKBONE?
    -100mbps port on BACKBONE?
    did time has go back while I was sleeping?

Finally!!! :smiley:

OK regarding the LHG5 , I can’t really see us using this at all.Most of our old SXT links have been changed with either QRT 5AC or stuff similar stuff from other manufacturers.I have to admit it’s a bit strange launching a non ac 5ghz p2p product in 2016.

I think for us and I’m sure there are many others like us , we need something more like the AC-ISO from the competitor.
So pretty much AC,20+DBI,Gigabit and some form of RF isolator to help reduce neighbor interference.

Hi
I’m liking the LHG 5 from a cost perspective (gather it does well for ~3km-4km links based on TX pwr?)..
Love to see a LHG 5HPacn version or using the same platform and kick it up a notch to the 24 GHz ISM band using the same antenna for higher gain(nice way to enter a new market area in 24GHz WiFi).

I really like the Metal52ac and will get me one for my test toolbox.. Might even swap some of my existing Metal2’s installs, to these units, noting I need a suitable dual band antennas to flick across from 2.4 to 5.8

The hAPac unit is also nice. I had just brought a stack of hAP lites(RB952Ui-5ac2nD) a couple of months ago, but the new hAPac unit with the addition of proper triple chain and the SFP slot(Use a lot of fiber here at work) would have been a great option.

DynaDish is $179,- list price. That is almost 3,5 times as expensive. That doesn’t justify the chipset…
DynaDish is a nice device, but waaaaay to expensive.

In both devices I am wondering how they perform in heavy congested spectrum. The radio module might be centred in the focus of the dish, but will still be hit by wave energy from a side from other 802.11 transmitters.

But I’m eager to hear the first comments based on real experiances of the LHG’s… price is interesting for sure…

I can sure see use for the LHG – in fact, I will probably want some well before they are being shipped by distributors here. But the device appears to be a Sextant-killer – I no longer see anything the Sextant can do that the LHG can’t do at half the price. Or am I missing something? (Note: snow load is not an issue here in the Arizona desert.)

For us the LHG could be a nice add-on for low priced, but high gain (for distant clients) CPE antennas. Up to now we deployed some QRT’s or Dynadish to reach some distant client that still needed high signals to stay out of the spectrum clutter. I can now buy 2 o 3 LHG’s for the price of one Dyna or QRT.

The ‘ac’ missing is indeed a bit weird. Why stay on a platform while we all move up? How much would the extra be for the chipset? 10$??
Fast ethernet or Giga. As the unit probably mostly will be used as CPE a gigabit port seems over the top. Worse, installers have much more issues in deploying gigabit cables, plugs etc. than fast ethernet. By all means, how many of you guys really have many clients connected to 100Mbps networks?
And if you are the one, than probably you can spend the extra (= the client can) for a proper QRT of Dyna.
This is all off course when the unit is used for CPE deployment. Using it for backbone is a different story. But then I would not depend my backbone on a simple plastic designed unit. How about off-angle interferences?

The NetMetal always have been a mystery to me why that hit the market. Which country allows such high 2,4Ghz power? And who wants to use such high power on a single chain device? With less power but dual chain you can do the same.
And then we had problems with the 4 units I ever bought. After running at highthrougputs each of these crashed. 2 send back for RMA and did the same later on… so I have 2 (or 3/4. have to check) for a friends price… if any is interested?

the hp AC seems a nice little beast to me. For indoor use the triple chain might work out well, 3x1 mimo still is better than 2x1 for most laptops, tablets etc. Better change for a better signal. The price is a bit high though, but ok, it seems to be a high end unit. And with MT ROS it has its advantage!

I fully agree.
Two issues though:

  1. Like someone else said, snow, but also dust, will set onto the honeygrate mesh. Snow is not my problem neither (almost desert here in Spain, snow is a rare event) but dust is. Many units over time collect thick sticky layers of dust. But I’d presume that’s a lesser effect on the electromagnetic wave reflection.
    And now I’m writing. We have seen the sun over times breaks down a lot of things. The plastic brackets from SXT’s, Sextants all become bridle over time and break easy. We’ve had a hail storm 2 years ago that ruined several SXT’s. Some where just broken off their standard brackets. So, how will this dish held out after 5 years in one of the most sunny areas of Spain where we are?

  2. Interference. I agree on another editor (and myself again) that has to be proven how they’d perform.

To battle all, snow/dust/sun and interference it might have been an idea to have a small thin metal dish deployed onto the plastic. So the plastic will give it its strenght and the metal reduces side energy penetrations and also protect the sphere from direct sunlight…

  • RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT-US (USA) is factory locked for 2412-2462MHz, 5170-5250MHz and 5725-5835MHz frequencies. This lock can not be removed.

  • RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT (International) supports 2412-2484MHz and 5150MHz-5875MHz range.

which one will be available for Canada?

and also when is it normally available after the newsletter? already, days, weeks, months?

– LHG 5
What would be the maximum distance in ptp?

[quote="Spirch]and also when is it normally available after the newsletter? already, days, weeks, months?[/quote]Well, that is up to two parties: Mikrotik and your dealer. We have seen items in the past that in the end never made it to the street…
But here in Europe I usually count on 2 to 4 months before some product really become available. And when it is a very good, long waited for, product, not unusual the dealer show all available items already reserved (by some big time buyers I’d presume…)

So by all means, I would be suprised to see any of these in real before the summer…

http://www.mikrotik.com/test_link.php
But by all means. Spectrum is important. Interferences? FLOS is imporant. Several factors come in respect.
And also what capacity would you be looking for? The bigger the distance, the weaker the signal, the smaller the s/n ratio, the lower the connection rates, the less traffic can pass…

But for free LOS and 10Mb of effective traffic I would guess out of my hand 10, 15, maybe 20 km?

Price range good
Performance after use because dyna dish disappointed :frowning:

which one will be available for Canada?

Canada is not the USA, so International, of course :slight_smile:

but also dust, will set onto the honeygrate mesh

the holes in the grid are quite big, dust will have no place to settle on the thin grid

The ‘ac’ missing is indeed a bit weird. Why stay on a platform while we all move up?

It has a 10/100 port, so 802.11ac has no big benefit. The cost is lower than some SXT models. This is for super low cost rural installations where speed is not a requirement, but cost.

Both bands at the same time??? With just one antenna feed??? :slight_smile: No - one or another.