Outdoor AP problem

I have a problem with one of my ap’s. Most of the customers get very bad speed while connected. (less than 1mbit)

Here is setup

firewall connection tracking: disabled. No firewall used.

wireless:

0 R name=“Aksesspunkt” mtu=1500 mac-address=00:0C:42:18:86:4A arp=enabled
disable-running-check=no interface-type=Atheros AR5413
radio-name=“000C4218864A” mode=ap-bridge ssid=“Ungdomsskulen” area=“”
frequency-mode=manual-txpower country=norway antenna-gain=0
frequency=2422 band=2.4ghz-b scan-list=default rate-set=configured
supported-rates-b=1Mbps,2Mbps,5.5Mbps,11Mbps
supported-rates-a/g=6Mbps,9Mbps,12Mbps basic-rates-b=1Mbps
basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps,9Mbps,12Mbps max-station-count=2007
ack-timeout=dynamic tx-power-mode=default noise-floor-threshold=default
periodic-calibration=default periodic-calibration-interval=60
burst-time=disabled dfs-mode=none antenna-mode=ant-a wds-mode=disabled
wds-default-bridge=none wds-default-cost=100 wds-cost-range=50-150
wds-ignore-ssid=no update-stats-interval=disabled
default-authentication=no default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0
default-client-tx-limit=0 proprietary-extensions=pre-2.9.25
hide-ssid=no security-profile=default disconnect-timeout=3s
on-fail-retry-time=100ms hw-retries=15 preamble-mode=both
compression=no allow-sharedkey=no

Overall Tx ccq: 100 %
Ack Timeout 30 us
Noise floor -102 dBm

Clients with problem:
Aksesspunkt no -62dBm… 11Mbps Signal to noise 40dB, Tx/Rx ccq: 100/0 %
Aksesspunkt no -67dBm… 11Mbps Signal to noise 36dB, Tx/Rx ccq: 100/0 %
Aksesspunkt no -62dBm… 11Mbps Signal to noise 40dB, Tx/Rx ccq: 99/0 %

No problem client:
Aksesspunkt no -62dBm… 11Mbps Signal to noise 49dB, Tx/Rx ccq: 100/0 %

Total number of clients is 13, where 10 have problems. All clients is in range from 100meters to 700 meters around the ap with good los.
These clients also use the same hardware compex wp54g/ag with huber Suhner antenna - http://www.hubersuhner.com/sp-rf-ant-prod-db-spa_2400_75_9_0_v_en.pdf

The antenna cable from the mikrotik ap to antenna is 10 meters. The antenna is the smarteq antenna found here : http://www.smarteq.com/download/18.51ddd3b10fa0c64b24800055619/V06_24.pdf

Anyone have a suggestion, or do you need more information ?

fosben -
Well your config looks ok - I did not see any info from the CPEs that are having issues - do you have or can you get, site survey information from them to post?

Antenna ‘a’ on your wireless card - does it have two antenna ports? If it does - do you have the right one selected?

Have you tried moving your AP channel to another channel? Sometimes, even though the AP survey says there is little noise there can be noise that the AP doesn’t display that is in fact there… So try a different channel…

Thom

Just a question, why use 30 feet of coax for your antenna when you could have 3 feet if you mounted the AP next to the antenna? That would save you quite a bit of loss.

Scott

Signals are good, so antenna port or cable shouldn’t matter. Yes, eliminating the long cable would get signals a little better, but if they are already good and the CCQ is high, there’s no real reason to do it.

When you are getting about 1 megabit, is there traffic from any of the other clients? Running B mode, you’ll have about 5 total megs to work with. I’m wondering if you have some sort of “hidden node” issue…

What happens if you disable all the clients except one of them that are having problems? Is it still bad?

How are you running the bandwidth test?

Ive tried different channels, the results have been the same or worse.

Ive done the bandwith test using the minitest from http://www.speedtest.net that Ive downloaded to one of our web servers.

I have tried to disable a few people and then running the test on a client with a problem. It was a slight increase in his speed.

Ive already ordered an outdoor box to get close to antenna, so cable will be eliminated during this week, although I dont think it is the problem.

Jcremin:
Im not sure what you mean by hidden nodes

Well, I don’t know if it would be a hidden node issue or not as it shouldn’t really be a problem if you don’t have a lot of traffic on the links.. but basically it is when the clients can’t hear each other so two of them start talking at the same time (like an ethernet collision) which causes them to both stop and retry. try a google search, you’ll find more info than you care to read about it. I wouldn’t think that it would be the issue with that short of a link, I’m just trying to think of things it could be.

I know people say to run the test “through” the link and not from the boards on either end but try running it from the client’s board to the AP. Any hardware should be able to get more than 1mbps before maxing out the CPU.

Yesterday we mounted an mikrotik client at a customer with a 18dbi antenna. Signal strength we got was 50. Up/down speed was 4mbit/2mbit for 30 minutes, then it suddenly dropped to 100kb/90kb for no reason. Signal stayed the same and so did noise levels and frequency usage. It stayed that low until today where it got back up to 4mbit…

Im starting to loosing hair on thisone…

The basic rate should be set to the lowest for the band. You have basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps,9Mbps,12Mbps. It should be basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps

fixed. No difference..