( you are getting ripped off in europe for this one)
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I saw dramatic differences with Ruckus as well …
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Amazing, do the same with hAP ac2 or any other Mikrotik device (Amazon.ca<->Amazon.de). " You are getting ripped off @anav in Canada for this one"
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Well you actually don´t buy MikroTik devices from Amazon.ca, hopefully.
TP-Link EAP245 price: https://geizhals.de/tp-link-omada-eap245-a1532804.html
MikroTik cAP AC price: https://geizhals.de/mikrotik-routerboard-cap-ac-rbcapgi-5acd2nd-a1861544.html
There are a lot of strange price differences between USA and Europe, aswell:
e.g.: Engenius EWS377AP 4x4:4 802.11ax access point:
USA: https://www.amazon.com/EnGenius-EWS377AP-802-11ax-Wireless-Features/dp/B07SGH1S4K => 199$
Europe: https://geizhals.de/engenius-ews377ap-a2156124.html => 380€
A bit offtopic, but still related.
cAP AC speed is like a lottery, every test gives diffrent result but as we all know globally it is and it will be always very slow.
Recently I tested Huawei AX3 and Asus RT-AX55 WiFi6 routers. As at the moment I have none AX devices (but for the future AX support would be nice to have), I disabled AX mode in both WiFi6 routers, but despite their big antennas, the 2,4Ghz speed was low (still twice better than MT -s) and coverage was terrible.
I also tested Cudy WR2100 and TP-Link C80 WiFi5 routers. Cudy WR2100 is OpenWrt based/supported, but again low (still twice better than MT -s) 2,4Ghz speed and coverage. TP-Link C80 was the best, strong 2,4Ghz signal, good speed, good coverage, however it had connection issues (after some time router loosed connection and crashed). Their support (they actually have such one, unlike MT -s support, who bury his head under the sand) contacted me, made tests, and provide beta firmware, which fixed issues, but still at the moment there is impossible to disable onemesh (may be available in the future).
When TP-Link 80 coverage was the best, strangely cAP AC coverage is almost same, while in the area, where TP-Link C80 had full bars, Huawei and Asus lost signal completely.
As all new TP-Link AX devices are having issues with 2,4Ghz and I don’t want to set up mesh network, I’m looking for a powerful WiFi device and as You praise TP-Link EAP245 a lot, I may get it and use with cAP AC (as router only), but please tell how good/bad it’s coverage and 2,4Ghz speed is compared to some other models.
bpwl my friend, you simply do not know how to shop in Canada LOL.
Amazon will sell you products from many vendors (from tplink direct for example or through third party resellers and they can charge whatever they like!!!).
But yes, one wouldn’t buy mikrotik from Amazon, well amazon.ca for sure!
Hapac2 MT USA price from website: $69US
Nominal Canadian Price and any authorized MT reseller $85 CDN
https://store.mikrotikcanada.ca/wireless-for-home-and-office/209-hap-ac2-us.html
@ksuuk, most 2.4ghz is rated at 300Mpbs applying my 1/3 rule the best one should hope for is around 100Mbps one-way real world, any more fantastic, much less not good and your probably going through 1-2 walls for sure. The TPLINK gives me reasonable speeds based on the above and is stable!! (consistent)
Buying stuff is off-topic here, but I do know @anav how to buy on-line (And CA is not on my shops-list). NL,DE,CN is. UK has been dropped now because of Brexit and the new import duties)
To be a bit more on topic: I’m very pleased with the control I have with RouterOS and DUDE. (90 units 1200km from here, MAC access and Romon to the rescue for integrating new units. A mix of PTMP and hAP/wAP/cAP devices in 21 homes with very thick walls and one combined internet uplink of 3 SXT LTE and satellite, a challenge in the Alpes).
Different users every week, with many different devices, some brand new but also very old ones. Living outdoor if they can. Monitoring this is easy with DUDE (and there is more than the network maps, You see all the registrations and roaming with “DUDE/RouterOS info”.) Surrounded by 200 other brand AP’s, that blast at whatever these high power AP’s allow. (Their signal sometimes is as strong as -55dBm, and they are at 1 km.) 2.4 GHz is overcrowded, just even with beacons and AP’s transmitting at 1Mbps. So tuning is a challenge. And the problems and as such the optimisations are different for every MT AP. Now I do have steady performance on all of them. MCS07 encoding for 2.4GHz and MCS09 for 5 GHz. Getting 50Mbps real usage throughput on every one of them on 5GHz (and that is the current LTE limit).
I do miss the possibilities of other brands (http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/802-11ac-wave2-support/127501/1) , and the 802.11ac wave 1 is not even at full power in the MT. And the tuning is “static”. You do not set algorithm parameters, but fixed values. So the MT is not adaptive to changing conditions. It’s trial and error to find out what any of the many parameters in the wireless setting will do or can do. Some are still a mystery (e.g. will a “Max Station Count” reduction give smaller pre-allocated tables, and as such more memory for the buffers and other things?). At least you are not “blind” in what happens in that wifi environment. And as such most problems that where there with the previous equipment have been pinpointed and solved.
At the moment I’m using 4G wan, about 100/60 Mbps is the link and cAP AC 2,4Ghz pushes max 20/20 Mbps so any other wifi device can do better with stock settings.
Very well stated bpwl, I dont doubt with the right knowledge a reasonable outcome can be had but its not easy and even still flakiness crops in now and again unexplainable.
One day I hope to be lucky enough to meet, and you can show me the power of DUDE! Remember you are talking with someone deathly afraid of capsman LOL.
kkuuser, sounds like your 4GWan is about as good as 2.4ghz on the downside, but the TPLINK should improve your up speed.
Depends on what your provider gives you,… ethernet cable from a modem? What do you get if attached directly to a PC…
What router are you using?
I have unlimited 4G, so speed depends of the amount current users etc:
Huawei B818 > ethernet > Mikrotik > switch > PC = Huawei B818 > ethernet > PC speed.
Huawei B818 > ethernet > Mikrotik > 2,4Ghz > PC = max 20/20 (3 m from Mikrotik)
I have accepted the fact that Mikrotik is what it is and I’ll keep it as a wired router only and add some AP for WiFi.
They appear to make excellent outdoor products its just the indoor wifi home stuff that takes far too much work to optimize.
Why put in all the work to get inferior results?
I’m on the latest stable and have persistent 3% packet loss on capac. Speeds are consistent though, if not a little slow.
After experimenting with the device, I found out that it works differently, depending on the frequency.
5785:
5180:
Ridioether:
Only changed the frequency, nothing more… belive, or not 
I have a Samsung tablet that refuses to operate normally on any configuration with channel 165/5825. No other brand of device has the issue.
When in doubt check other devices and alter the config accordingly.
5700MHz is the max freq in many regions (and even 5700 is already special)! If your tablet is set to such a region/country it will not scan for other channels than allowed for the region.
After experimenting with the device, I found out that it works differently, depending on the frequency.
5785:
5785.jpg5180:
5180.jpgRidioether:
efir.PNGOnly changed the frequency, nothing more… belive, or not
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Looking at the scan list … what region is set on this device? 5785 is not part of the scan, so 5785 might not be part of the region set in the MT.
Set the correct local region in the wireless setup.
To find out more , and what to expect …
CLI:
interface wireless info country-list
interface wireless info country-info <region to check>
I’m sure it’s a chipset or firmware issue. I have a few Samsung devices, an older ‘higher end’ tablet, a current Samsung phone and this cheap tier Samsung tablet, which is the newest device(but uses older tech). Only the new tablet has an issue.
I concur on this one - I’ve got a Teclast Android tablet of dubious origins and it can’t Wi-Fi 5 network when I set it to channel 161 (5805). But my laptop and mobile can see it fine. I’m going to step back down the 20Mhz channels to see when it appears. Also got a Realtek USB network adapter and that can’t see it either.
Yup - stepped down through the 20MHz channels and the first one that worked was channel 140 (5700). So I suspect that some firmware/chipsets is limited by this so they don’t have to worry about different countries? Bit crap really.
So if you have frequency set to auto, how do you define a scan list that only goes up to 5700? Setting a scan list of 5170-5700 seems to always choose the exact same channel as my main Virgin Media router.
PS. Yes I know you should scan the channels and find the best one manually…