Spin-off of "Important security update"

I think we're missing the point here.

Nobody's arguing that off-topic posts belong in technical threads. But just because something is off-topic doesn't automatically make it spam, and it certainly doesn't mean it needs to be deleted.

IMO, moving those discussions somewhere else makes a lot more sense than simply deleting them.

And about the search results, Discourse already has a built-in Search Priority: Ignore setting that keeps a category out of regular searches.

Anyhow, this seems like a pretty reasonable compromise to me. Technical threads stay on topic, mods stay in control, and people can still have conversations that others clearly find worthwhile without being sent off to Discord.

Do you agree that if such a category/section (Social/Off-topic) would exist, offtopic posts made after the birth of such section, SHOULD be deleted instead of moved?

No, not automatically.

Sure, if there's a dedicated Social/Off-topic category, people should use it. But mistakes happen, and I still think moving a post makes more sense than just deleting it.

If someone keeps ignoring the rules, that's a different story. The mods can deal with that.

To me, it's more about keeping things organized than deleting stuff just because it ended up in the wrong place.

Yo do not need to know why, it's enough that mod knows why but I'll explain it to you:

Remeber ... no comments on mods decisions as they do their job.

:slight_smile:

Telling people to patch in a security update thread is literally the topic. Using my 'common sense' quote to justify moving it doesn't make the point you think it makes.

I get your point, but look at the practical side.
The mod team already stated they are overwhelmed.
Expecting them to manually sort and curate every off-topic rant instead of just dropping it is exactly why they feel burnt out.
If a dedicated category exists and people still miss it, dropping the post is the only way people learn.

To be honest:
It's just raising a temperature of a discussion to find a solution.
I do not feel offended yet, till we discuss about modding. Hope you do not take it too personal too.

To be honest as well: it's not personal, it's just exhausting. I read release topics to find out if a router update is going to break my network, not to read manifestos on how MikroTik should run their business or debates about 2-stroke engines.

Chill out a bit.

It's interesting that you "hate" ironic comment on "2-stroke engine" but accept an unrelated comment on WinBox 3 deprecated. It had just as little to do with the topic "7.25 upgrade" as the latter. So many topics on that already started.

You should be just fair.

BTW: such milestone topics are the ones that draw MT attention so it's a quite resonable place to express frustration on the "next fanstatic set of problems".

Imagine there was this amazing time of IPB and vBulletin boards, when shit like that was simply removed and users posting it ware banned.

What a time to be alive :saluting_face:

in modern times those banned users then complain on twitter, that those are nazi forums

There is no Tweeter now :slight_smile:

Why can't we just a lounge category or something?

Hyde Park

I saw users trying to hold MikroTik hostage. Never seen anyone trying to cancel you guys. Now I’m curious.

I don't know what WinBox 3 comment you're referring to, but I find it very hard to draw a line on the MikroTik forum where WinBox would be offtopic.
While a 2-stroke engine comment is a no-brainer.

So your stance as a moderator is that users should intentionally hijack release threads with unrelated frustrations just to get MikroTik's attention? You're explicitly endorsing off-topic spam for visibility.

@Znevna
This must have really affected you.
I’ve never seen so many posts from you in a single day...


And today, I prefer to keep a low profile.
After another user’s political post yesterday,
I’d rather stay under the radar until things calm down...

True, I'm running out of coffee and it's a rainy day.
I also wish for clean topics even though this wish irritates some moderators, it seems.
I'm genuinely tired of reading crapware in release topics instead of what should be found in them.
I get that some people know how to better handle a business like MikroTik, but release topics aren't the place to give them business lessons for free.

The one I commented ... maybe time to go for a walk and buy more coffe :slight_smile:

https://forum.mikrotik.com/t/7-25-stable-is-released/273987/118

You're not helping your case.
The WinBox guy explicitly stated he just upgraded his home router to 7.25 and reported 'no issues yet' except the forced WinBox update.
One is a user discussing how the 7.25 update forced a management tool migration on his home router.
The other is a moderator ironically ranting about car engines.
The fact that you still can't see the difference in relevance is exactly why these threads are a mess.