User Manager Limitation Problem

Dear all
i’m configure the User Manger with pppoe correctly as in th wiki, but i have a problem whene i try to limit the users through the Users add page, and whene the user tray to log on the access denied mesaage appear to user, and whene i remove the limitation the user is log on successfuly, i put the rate limit in the attache i hope to someone help me to understand what hppend plz.
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Hi oops1180

I have user manager setup with 3 HotSpots running seperatlly from User Manager. User manager is standalone PC.
You can add users profile and name it like 512kb, 1024kb etc etc.
Then when you add user to the user manager put the number on the Group on the user manager like:
User:sal
Pass:sal
Private Info:
IP Address:
Pool Name:
Group: 512 or 1024 “this is the user profile on the PPPoE server”

But make sure to tell the PPPoE server to use radius.
By the way you don’t have credits created on the User Manager.
Please let me know is it clear to you .


thx
Selim

Dear Smilies

thank u very much for response honey.

sir at first i’m install the usermanger with pppoe server on the same machine, i was reading, that we can donig that.

u are talking about another method to install the usermanager with hotspot, i will trying to separate usermanager from the PPPOE services and i will told u with thr result.

also i’m creating the credits card already install and configure as the attache.

also i have a problem with time limitation i need to make a users use the internet for 10h with in 15days and i’m configure the user as the attache,

whene add the user and trying to connect the invalid user name and password message appear to me, i can work with time limit if i only add it from the credits.

i can’t use the hotspot cause the hacker can access the MAC address of my customers and kick out the user to get his session,the pppoe services is more secure than the hotspot in my region .

thank u sir and king of my regards.
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Hi oops1180
Look make sure you told PPPoE server to use radius on the same machine or if you seperate. The reason of my seperation of User Manager is I have at least 2000 users on it. I wated to have central users authentication.
I use HotSpot because is much easy for the users to log on instend of dial everytime they want to log on, or I have user that he can’t crate PPPoE interface on his computer for that I use HotSpot.
10h You don’t need to put that on uptime, server will create that as soon he log on you have to put profile on the group that name you create on the PPP profiles and the time how much time you want he/she to be online, now will come in point where you have to create credit profiles on UM with limited time like 10h, 1d, 10d, 15d, 31d etc etc.. this will limit users how much he will stay on .

If you create local user name on PPPoE server and you can logon that will tell you tha PPPoE server is running good.
If you create user on User Manager and you can’t log on means something is wrong with configuration , make sure you tell PPPoE server to use radius and add services what kind of services you are using … For me I told exmaple hotspot for you, you have to add pppoe service.
Also check the logs on the PPPoE server look what does it show to you ..
I hope this is been informed for you .
Let me know.
Take care.


thx
Selim

Thank very much for your time sweeten

really i’m complete understand u know and my UM is working perfectly i can add the users from UM and i can log on correctly, but the problem with limit time and rate limit, as in the attache
I macke 2 profiles in the ppp profle the 1st name is Default with limit 64K/128K
and the 2nd profile is PROF2 with limit 128K/256K.
and when creat a new user in the UM and type in the Group section of the add user page the name of the profile as the photo in the attache the user take the limit for the profile ONE=Defalut only, the 2nd Profile not work when add it to the user group name in th UM.
i hope to understand me sir

thank u very much and king of regards
sincerely
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HI oops1180
if i understood you well, you saying the default profile works and the PROF2 doens’t work the user with PROF2 can be able to login .
Are you still have the UM on same PC or you seperated as standalone PC.
Did you add router ip address 127.0.0.1 to UM and secret if you are using in the same PC if not in same PC put the ip address of PPPoE server to UM on the Router manu .
Did you tell PPPoE server to use radius server and if you have in the same PC you have to put 127.0.0.1 of if you have seperated vise-versa .
If you can’t figur out come, on msn and I’m willing to help you out.
Also with you trying to log on with PROF2 what does it show on the log tell me what king of message you get back.


thx
Selim

thank u dear very much i’m add u on the hotmail
king of regards

Please, how do i install user manager as stand alone. here is my senerio:
I have 2 mikrotik routers on 2 different network and i want both of them to authenticate via a central radius server using User manager. I have seen user manager that is installed with the mikrotik OS but i need a user manager that i will just install on a different PC that does not have mikrotik and use it as the radius for the 2 hotspots.

You can’t. It’s a RouterOS package, so it has to run within RouterOS.

You can use any other RADIUS server on just a PC, though.

You can’t. It’s a RouterOS package, so it has to run within RouterOS.

Wew thats gona be a problem, cos i am already using userman and hotspot on a single box and i was just thinking i will be able to transfer all the user database to the new standalone usermanager so that i don’t loose my client. Or since i have the usermanager on one of the router, can i configure the second(new) router to authenticate via the usermanager on the 1st router?

Yes. The router running User Manager doesn’t have to do anything else, it can be dedicated to just User Manager. But User Manager has to be installed within RouterOS.

Yes. The router running User Manager doesn’t have to do anything else

What i am saying is that i currently have a mikrotik router(R1) running hotspot with usermanager. I have acquired a different isp link and also another mikrotik router(R2) connected to the new isp link; que: can i configure the new router’s hotspot(R2) to authenticate via the usermanager on R1?

Like I said, yes, you can.

[quote]Like I said, yes, you can.[quote]

Ok fine. Thanks the 2 routers are on different network, will i specify the R1 address on R2 as the radius server. Also i will like to ask, which do you think is better, using hospot over pppoe or over dhcp. I currently use it on dhcp but it seems someof my clients says people are able to bypass the hotspot and browse freely.

Yes, you specify the IP address of the router running User Manager as the RADIUS server on the router running the Hotspot.

Hotspot and PPPoE don’t work on the same interface as per Mikrotik staff, so you shouldn’t switch to that.

I will try that out thanks.
Mean while the new router (R2) has 2 links fro 2 different isp on ether1 and ether2 i want to configre loadbalancing on both of them, can you tell the winbox procedure for doing this?

Thanks for the support again

The wiki has examples for several of load balancing strategies. If they’re CLI ones, you can open a terminal from within Winbox and paste it in, and then use the GUI elements to inspect what the commands did.