v7 and BFD, any ETA?

WIP, ie soon! :wink:

+1 for BFD.

Here’s a silly thought… If Mikrotik doesn’t want to open source their software, what would prevent us from flashing a lightweight Linux distro onto some of the arm-based routers and just run FRR? Personally, I would like to see my new CCR2216’s run Ubuntu or Alpine Linux. Then I could use one configuration utility for everything. It would sure make automation a lot easier.

Sorry if this is a dumb question or has already been answered.

Support for MikroTik hardware and the SoCs they use in mainline linux, bootloader peculiarities, to name a few.
MikroTik makes it purposely hard for anyone to get current GPL source code for their hardware.

On the one hand choosing a GPL licensed platform for your products (Linux) and then re-implementing lots of standard features from scratch for which better open source implementations exist is admittedly a weird hill to die on but it’s a business decision MikroTik has made because it must believe that there is somehow more value in it.

On a different, more observational and possibly off-topic note:
In my opinion, the even weirder hill to die on is the one where people come out onto public forums and berate a company’s employees for business decisions their employers made. I find it oddly fascinating and wonder whether there really is no viable competition for MikroTik that people can choose from in this case. I work for a big name brand network equipment manufacturer and in the customer segments we serve there are a handful of other big name brands and customers generally run parallel PoCs with a number of them for any larger investment (e.g. equipment refreshes). If we floundered the way MikroTik has been since RouterOS 7 we’d likely lose the customer.
It seems that in the low-cost segment there really isn’t a lot of companies interested in punching above their weight the way that MikroTik does. Which is interesting and I’m trying to find out what this tells me about this market segment.

And don’t get me wrong: I love MikroTik for exactly that scrappiness and punching above it’s weight in my home network. From what I see on the YouTube channel and on the forums it also seems MikroTik has excellent people working there. I personally still wouldn’t run a business on a MikroTik platform, but I know many here do successfully. So what do I know?

I’m not sure this is so much about GPL as it is about having decided to ship devices with 16MB of storage—the better open source implementations simply won’t fit. In other words, the value is in saving a couple of pennies on NAND with each device.

I’m trying to find out what this tells me about this market segment.

Let me support you here.
It can tell you that “floundering” is all the same in all market segments. Should be true for the whole IT business.
Of course there are a lot of men in fast cars, trying to tell the contrary.
Unfortunately a good percentage of these men have not a gleam what they’re talking about.
Considering this, can have a beneficial impact on the systems you run.

Another +1 for this.

I need it in a use-case with OSPF + BFD for Anycast DNS setup

soon

VTI, IPsec queue :frowning:

If you want BFD, BGP, VTI - use Cisco
Mikrotik only for home and SOHO

MT, show him that he is wrong. :smiley:

v7.10 have / will have initial BFD support.
Lets test.

-EDIT- By the way, there is nothing about BFD in the change logs for v7.10-beta5. Very funny.

Where did get that info from?

https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Routing+Protocol+Overview

Before everyone gets disappointed (again): Why not wait for the change logs to mention an actual implementation?
You know, it’s been asked for enough to warrant an actual entry in the change log.

https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Routing+Protocol+Overview
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Well, I meant as in an actual release note, not ”planned”..

https://mikrotik.social/@mikrotik/110389938433147844

Wtf (excuse my French ; -) but has MT started to drop different release notes in different channels? Seriously or fake (“#leaked”) ??
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Nothing in here at least: “v7.10beta [testing] is released!

Probably just prepping it.

Somewhere I have seen that line in the normal announcements, I remember…

And that wiki page was changed on May 18 for that line, so pretty recent too.

http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/v7-10beta-testing-is-released/166567/186


!) route - added BFD (CLI only);