Wireless access point recommendation?

Hello everyone,

Have you got any wireless AP recommendations? Sorry if this is not allowed here.

I would like a gigabit speed AP (if that exists?) that is PoE capable (without the use of an injector)

I will look myself but if any of you have any recommendations let me know

It would have to be wall mountable, powered by PoE switch, for use in an office and I would possibly buy 2 or 3 of them for wifi access around the building. It will be for people to connect to the wifi with their phones/laptops and must have the ability for VLANs

Well, from Mikrotik you have new cAP ax:

https://mikrotik.com/product/cap_ax

But no gigaspeed over wireless.
Current MT products do not have that capability.

If other vendor, wrong place to ask. :laughing:

Cap AX says ‘Wireless 5 GHz Max data rate 1200 Mbit/s’ would that not be gigabit?

Hi, do you know how I can know if my PoE switch will power this AP, or if i will need a separate little power injector? I bought a different AP from a different vendor and it doesnt work with my switch, so it becomes a pain having to use the injector. Its much easier just having everything be powered by the poe switch and its corresponding network sockets around the building :slight_smile:

My PoE switch is Zyxel GS1920-24HP

Data rate is not real speed.

Poe is 802.3 af/at. Check speciation.

What is your budget…
Also what is wrong with sticking with same vendor…https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/wireless/802-11ax-wifi-6e-dual-radio-unified-pro-access-point-wax620d-6e

Maybe your AP is not working at 48V but at 24V or maybe it’s 48V passive poe and your switch is active poe i presume.

So when you have passive poe there is no negotiation between switch and powered device. Instead you always have 48V (or 24V) present at the ports (for eg. cap ax ether2 is passive poe out)

So maybe your AP is passive poe only which means he expects 48V to be present without negotiation with switch and your switch is not enabling poe on that port because well, it didn’t got the request for poe output. And injector work bebause it’s just injecting 48 or 24V

All MT cap use 802.3 af/at.

Yea, but he said that he bought different AP from different vendor and it didn’t worked with poe switch. Maybe that AP is using 24V.

I had TP-Link that was powered by 9 or 12V via poe injector.

POE Switch: GS1920-24HP
https://www.zyxelguard.com/datasheets/GS1920-Series.pdf

TP Link AP: EAP110
https://static.tp-link.com/upload/product-overview/2023/202302/20230208/EAP%20Datasheet%20(full%20version).pdf

I am not sure exactly why. But I believe its to do with the fact the EAP110 is ‘24V Passive PoE’. I believe my switch may only work with Active PoE devices which are able to tell the switch what voltage they want. Not sure. In future I will only buy APs that are Active PoE. I think my switch can work with 802.3 af or “802.3 at poe plus” devices.

The EAP110 is supplied with a little PoE injector device, it works fine with that but I dont want the burden of having to use that when every single other PoE device will simply work off my switch and its wall sockets around the building.

For now I bought an EAP610 but I think I might look at getting a cAP too

I currently have two zyxel nwa1123-acv2 but one of them is turning off repeatedly 5 times a day. It turns off and comes back online randomly a few minutes later.

Also it appears to me they cannot be locally managed and must be managed in the cloud - plus I am having an issue with managing them in the cloud. The password for the SSIDs on them seems to be going back to some default value in the cloud, yet the real password to connect to the wifi SSID is the original one set (even though when you check on the cloud, its not that password) e.g. You set password to 1234, then it will change back to the default one ‘oZxL1!’, but ‘1234’ is the password you must type in to log into the wifi SSID lol.

Anyway don’t mind this, I dont want it to turn into a support thread for Zyxel APs as that is not allowed here :slight_smile:

Zyxel?
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-28771
https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/support/security-advisories/zyxel-security-advisory-for-remote-command-injection-vulnerability-of-firewalls
https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/support/security-advisories/zyxel-security-advisory-for-multiple-buffer-overflow-vulnerabilities-of-firewalls

You’re right, EAP110 PoE is 24V and thus not compatible with any 802.3af/at PoE switch (which is 48V). So when looking for new WiFi gear, check for 802.3af/at PoE support (or passive 48V at least).

Small repeat :laughing:

For those who can’t enumerate (and describe tech specs in detail) complete list of Mikrotik’s gear during small hours: @holvo is mentioning Mikrotik device models with “cAP” in their name (not to confuse with CAPsMAN functionality).

Other MT wireless devices don’t necessarily share the same powering characteristics. E.g. hAP ax2 or hAP ax3 can only accept input voltage up to 28V and are thus not 802.3af/at compatible.

Always remember that such speeds (not only for MikroTik but also for all other manufacturers) are “salesman talk”, not real speeds.
You can more or less compare them between manufacturers, but you will never be able to achieve them. Expect half of the specified speed.

I still need to get my hands on cAP AX (on it’s way, currently in Poland for last hop to delivery).
But … comparing to AX2 and AX3 (same chip set, same resources), I also see 1201/1201 being reported as data rate.
Real speed I can achieve over those devices (with my internal setup towards iperf or internal openspeed server) is 800-ish (sometimes even a bit more).
I’ll admit, that’s when I am in the same room as the device and ideal conditions (no interference visible from other access points on the used frequency).
With a real thick brick wall in between, it drops to around 500 (which in my view is still pretty decent).

What is reported there is the RADIO datarate. The radio is halfduplex and it has additional overhead for the radio protocol.
So unlike a 1Gbps ethernet link which gives you very near to 1Gbps actual throughput in both directions at the same time, a Wireless link will never achieve that.
You need to subtract overhead for the radio protocol (beacons, re-transmissions, sync time etc) and even then it remains half-duplex so when there is considerable traffic in both directions you need to add that together.
Furthermore, the radio channel is shared with other users and other APs.

Thanks everyone for the help. I know now why the TP-Link AP wouldn’t work (it only takes 24V Passive PoE which my switch cannot provide)

I have bought an EAP610 but will look into getting a cAP AX (which will work with my switch as its active PoE :slight_smile: )