venhow
September 2, 2020, 3:32am
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My devices:
Router is CCR1009-7G-1C-1S+ (tile), 5 APs are RBwAPG-5HacT2HnD.
My network toplogy:
Even PCs or Mobiles link speed is 866Mbps, but actually speed only 200Mb,
below is mobile to LAN server:
CAPsMAN config:
My ISP bandwith is 1000Mb, but test max <200Mb, as below:
hello,
why do you have so many configs in capsman? one for 2,4 and 5 ghz each should be enough? (auto channel)
Regarding speeds in capsman: you should enable local forwarding, otherwise all traffic gets routed to the capsman-controller, wich can be a bottleneck.
This way the load will be distributed accross all your caps.
Note that with local forwarding you will need to create local bridges on all of your caps.
note also that wap ac is not the fastest, max net-throughput with local bridge in my experience is around 300 mbit/s (wich is not bad for a device in this price-point)
venhow
September 2, 2020, 10:09am
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thank you.
I have tried use Local Bridge but the same result, max dowload 200Mb.
about channels, firsttime I try use manual channels and now use auto channels: only channel2.4 and channel5 is using.
biomesh
September 2, 2020, 10:14am
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In real life (no matter what hardware you use) you will generally get up to 1/2 the transfer speeds with regards to your link speeds.
As for your config, can you post an export from your capsman manager device? This provides more details to be able to help.
venhow
September 2, 2020, 10:40am
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In real life (no matter what hardware you use) you will generally get up to 1/2 the transfer speeds with regards to your link speeds.
As for your config, can you post an export from your capsman manager device? This provides more details to be able to help.
please see below, APs MAC address I replace with ‘xxx’:
[howard@SK-RouterOS] /caps-man> export
sep/02/2020 18:34:46 by RouterOS 6.47.2
software id = JPEQ-ZDET
model = CCR1009-7G-1C-1S+
serial number = 91500A426B08
/caps-man channel
add band=2ghz-g/n control-channel-width=20mhz frequency=2412 name=channel1-2.4
add band=5ghz-n/ac control-channel-width=20mhz extension-channel=XXXX
frequency=5180 name=channel36-5
add band=2ghz-g/n control-channel-width=20mhz frequency=2437 name=channel6-2.4
add band=2ghz-g/n control-channel-width=20mhz frequency=2462 name=channel11-2.4
add band=2ghz-g/n control-channel-width=20mhz frequency=2422 name=channel3-2.4
add band=2ghz-g/n control-channel-width=20mhz frequency=2452 name=channel9-2.4
add band=5ghz-n/ac control-channel-width=20mhz extension-channel=XXXX
frequency=5240 name=channel48-5
add band=5ghz-n/ac control-channel-width=20mhz extension-channel=XXXX
frequency=5200 name=channel40-5
add band=5ghz-n/ac control-channel-width=20mhz extension-channel=XXXX
frequency=5220 name=channel44-5
add band=5ghz-n/ac control-channel-width=20mhz frequency=5260 name=
channel52-5-dfs
add band=5ghz-n/ac control-channel-width=20mhz frequency=5320 name=
channel64-5-dfs
add band=5ghz-n/ac control-channel-width=20mhz frequency=5280 name=
channel56-5-dfs
add band=5ghz-n/ac control-channel-width=20mhz frequency=5300 name=
channel60-5-dfs
add band=2ghz-g/n control-channel-width=20mhz extension-channel=disabled name=
channel2.4
add band=5ghz-n/ac control-channel-width=20mhz extension-channel=XXXX name=
channel5
/caps-man security
add authentication-types=wpa-psk,wpa2-psk encryption=aes-ccm group-encryption=
aes-ccm name=security1 passphrase=SuperK2018
/caps-man access-list
add action=accept allow-signal-out-of-range=10s disabled=no signal-range=
-70..120 ssid-regexp=“”
add action=reject allow-signal-out-of-range=10s comment=
“drop low signal devices” disabled=no signal-range=-120..-71 ssid-regexp=“”
/caps-man configuration
add channel=channel1-2.4 datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg1-2.4 security=
security1 ssid=wintaiwoo2.4
add channel=channel36-5 datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg36-5 security=
security1 ssid=wintaiwoo5
add channel=channel3-2.4 datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg3-2.4 security=
security1 ssid=wintaiwoo2.4
add channel=channel40-5 datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg40-5 security=
security1 ssid=wintaiwoo5
add channel=channel6-2.4 datapath=datapath1 name=cfg6-2.4 security=security1
ssid=wintaiwoo2.4
add channel=channel44-5 datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg44-5 security=
security1 ssid=wintaiwoo5
add channel=channel9-2.4 datapath=datapath1 name=cfg9-2.4 security=security1
ssid=wintaiwoo2.4
add channel=channel48-5 datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg48-5 security=
security1 ssid=wintaiwoo5
add channel=channel52-5-dfs datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg52-5 security=
security1 ssid=wintaiwoo5
add channel=channel56-5-dfs datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg56-5 security=
security1 ssid=wintaiwoo5
add channel=channel11-2.4 datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg11-2.4 security=
security1 ssid=wintaiwoo2.4
add channel=channel2.4 country=china datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg2.4
security=security1 ssid=wintaiwoo2.4
add channel=channel5 country=china datapath=datapath1 mode=ap name=cfg5
security=security1 ssid=wintaiwoo5
/caps-man datapath
add bridge=bridge1-192.168.1.0 client-to-client-forwarding=yes name=datapath1
/caps-man interface
add comment=“Big meeting room” configuration=cfg2.4 disabled=no l2mtu=1600
mac-address=CC:2D:E0:xxx master-interface=none name=cap1-2.4g
radio-mac=CC:2D:E0:xxx radio-name=CC2DE0Cxxx
add configuration=cfg5 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=CC:2D:E0:xxx
master-interface=none name=cap1-5g radio-mac=CC:2D:E0:xxx radio-name=
CC2DE0Cxxx
add comment=Boss configuration=cfg2.4 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=
CC:2D:E0:xxx master-interface=none name=cap2-2.4g radio-mac=
CC:2D:E0:xxx radio-name=CC2DE0xxx
add configuration=cfg5 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=CC:2D:E0:xxx
master-interface=none name=cap2-5g radio-mac=CC:2D:E0:xxx radio-name=
CC2DE0xxx
add comment=Jake configuration=cfg2.4 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=
74:4D:28:xxx master-interface=none name=cap3-2.4g radio-mac=
74:4D:28:xxx radio-name=744D28xxx
add configuration=cfg5 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=74:4D:28:xxx
master-interface=none name=cap3-5g radio-mac=74:4D:28:xxx radio-name=
744D28xxx
add comment=Chunyang configuration=cfg2.4 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=
74:4D:28:xxx master-interface=none name=cap4-2.4g radio-mac=
74:4D:28:xxx radio-name=744D28xxx
add configuration=cfg5 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=74:4D:28xxx
master-interface=none name=cap4-5g radio-mac=74:4D:28:xxx0 radio-name=
744D28xxx
add comment=Irene configuration=cfg2.4 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=
74:4D:28:xxx master-interface=none name=cap5-2.4g radio-mac=
74:4D:28:xxx radio-name=744D28xxx
add configuration=cfg5 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=74:4D:xxx
master-interface=none name=cap5-5g radio-mac=74:4D:28:xxx radio-name=
744D28xxx
/caps-man manager
set enabled=yes package-path=/ap-upgrade upgrade-policy=suggest-same-version
/caps-man manager interface
set [ find default=yes ] forbid=yes
add disabled=no interface=bridge1-192.168.1.0
/caps-man provisioning
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg1-2.4
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg36-5
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg3-2.4
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg40-5
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg6-2.4
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg44-5
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg9-2.4
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg48-5
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg11-2.4
add action=create-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=cfg52-5
add action=create-enabled master-configuration=cfg2.4 name-prefix=MikroTik
add action=create-enabled master-configuration=cfg5 name-prefix=MikroTik
biomesh
September 2, 2020, 11:12am
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I don’t really see anything wrong with the config, but I would definitely see if capsman forwarding is your issue. Check the cpu on your ap and router while doing iperf speed tests.
You might want to see if you have overlapping channels too close to one another since you are using 80MHz channels. Many times going from 80 to 40 will help if there is a lot of inference. The link rates will be lower, but the speeds will be more consistent.
If you set the data path to be local forwarding=yes, be sure to delete the cap interface and reprovision the radio via capsman.
venhow
September 3, 2020, 1:40am
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I don’t really see anything wrong with the config, but I would definitely see if capsman forwarding is your issue. Check the cpu on your ap and router while doing iperf speed tests.
You might want to see if you have overlapping channels too close to one another since you are using 80MHz channels. Many times going from 80 to 40 will help if there is a lot of inference. The link rates will be lower, but the speeds will be more consistent.
If you set the data path to be local forwarding=yes, be sure to delete the cap interface and reprovision the radio via capsman.
thanks.
I’ll try set the channel to xx.
and try again use 'Local forwarding".
venhow
September 4, 2020, 5:52am
10
I don’t really see anything wrong with the config, but I would definitely see if capsman forwarding is your issue. Check the cpu on your ap and router while doing iperf speed tests.
You might want to see if you have overlapping channels too close to one another since you are using 80MHz channels. Many times going from 80 to 40 will help if there is a lot of inference. The link rates will be lower, but the speeds will be more consistent.
If you set the data path to be local forwarding=yes, be sure to delete the cap interface and reprovision the radio via capsman.
one more question about this “If you set the data path to be local forwarding=yes, be sure to delete the cap interface and reprovision the radio via capsman.”
you mean delete cap interface from CAPsMAN - configurations ?
Shy
September 4, 2020, 6:57am
11
Yes and then to reprovision it will recreate it
Sent from my SM-A705FN using Tapatalk
Don’t use wpa-psk as authentication-types. Ever. Only use wpa2-psk.
Don’t use overlapping channels (also on 5GHz) and use specific extension channels (use Ceee instead of XXXX).
anav
September 4, 2020, 12:57pm
15
In real life (no matter what hardware you use) you will generally get up to 1/2 the transfer speeds with regards to your link speeds.
As for your config, can you post an export from your capsman manager device? This provides more details to be able to help.
First for the OP, where do you see this 866 speed that you keep stating and specifically what does this have to do with wifi throughput??
Reading the spec sheet, the 2.4 speed is stated as 300, and the 5ghz speed is rated at 1300.
I do note they say AC1600 which seems nothing more to me that 300+1300=1600
If you are talking the advertised WIFI speeds then you havent paid attention or have been duped by marketing.
Typically one will see TWO WAY speeds advertised while we as users tend to think one way, up or down.
So, lets say for the 5AC, as biomesh pointed out the expectation should be a starting point of 1300/2= 650 one way speed for the 5ghz network.
However that is theoretical and doesn’t take into account normal propagation losses through air, cabling etc,"
Then we have to factor in any walls or physical obstacles in the way of the signal
Then we have to factor in any electrical appliances and lighting or currents in the house that may affect/interfere with signal
Then we have to factor in any competing devices such as other WIFI radios.
The best rule of thumb is the 1/3 rule. 1300/3= 433 should be what you are seeing give er take on the device.
In your case then, there is definitely some issues. With a LOS connectivity you should reasonable expect to get +400Mbps.
I have a capac and through two walls and one cabinet(solid wood) and all the other issues about 40down and 30 up on 2.4ghz and 15 down and 10 up on 5ghz.
and yet the unit drawing a straight line is not that far from the receiving unit (firestick).
867/3= 289 is what I should be able to reasonably get for 5ghz
300/3= 100 is what I should be able to reasonably get for 2ghz
Which goes to show you cannot overcome physics magically of obstructions and interference.
venhow
September 7, 2020, 2:12am
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In real life (no matter what hardware you use) you will generally get up to 1/2 the transfer speeds with regards to your link speeds.
As for your config, can you post an export from your capsman manager device? This provides more details to be able to help.
First for the OP, where do you see this 866 speed that you keep stating and specifically what does this have to do with wifi throughput??
Reading the spec sheet, the 2.4 speed is stated as 300, and the 5ghz speed is rated at 1300.
I do note they say AC1600 which seems nothing more to me that 300+1300=1600
If you are talking the advertised WIFI speeds then you havent paid attention or have been duped by marketing.
Typically one will see TWO WAY speeds advertised while we as users tend to think one way, up or down.
So, lets say for the 5AC, as biomesh pointed out the expectation should be a starting point of 1300/2= 650 one way speed for the 5ghz network.
However that is theoretical and doesn’t take into account normal propagation losses through air, cabling etc,"
Then we have to factor in any walls or physical obstacles in the way of the signal
Then we have to factor in any electrical appliances and lighting or currents in the house that may affect/interfere with signal
Then we have to factor in any competing devices such as other WIFI radios.
The best rule of thumb is the 1/3 rule. 1300/3= 433 should be what you are seeing give er take on the device.
In your case then, there is definitely some issues. With a LOS connectivity you should reasonable expect to get +400Mbps.
I have a capac and through two walls and one cabinet(solid wood) and all the other issues about 40down and 30 up on 2.4ghz and 15 down and 10 up on 5ghz.
and yet the unit drawing a straight line is not that far from the receiving unit (firestick).
867/3= 289 is what I should be able to reasonably get for 5ghz
300/3= 100 is what I should be able to reasonably get for 2ghz
Which goes to show you cannot overcome physics magically of obstructions and interference.
hello, as you said, then my case speed is 867Mbps the really speed is 867/3=289 and it’s normal?
krafg
September 7, 2020, 3:04am
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Link speed is 867Mbps but real throughput is normally around 1/3 of it.
1/3 speed is normal for MT, 2/3 speed is normal for others
venhow
September 7, 2020, 6:59am
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@heidarren @krafg
thanks for your help.
maybe the time to change to orthers WiFi devices.
Not sure what requirements (and expectations) you have, I get a solid (little over) 400 Mbps on my cAP ac.