Wifi 7 - MikroTik when???

hAP be² would be nice or cAP be :smiley:

Qualcomm

Qualcomm

Always thought they were pretty decent chips?

Qualcomm are excellent chips, packed with features, but they are also more expensive, this is why it is very hard for MikroTik to compete with some noname brand prices. There are cheaper chip makers that offer less features etc.

Qualcomm is good for us :slight_smile:

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/internet-of-things/networking/wi-fi-networks/networking-pro-series/qualcomm-networking-pro-620-platform

Something like this for HAP AX4 i hope.

Name: quad-core Arm® Cortex®-A73 Processor
Clock Speed: Up to 2.2 GHz

Spectral Bands: 6 GHz, 5 GHz, 2.4 GHz
Peak PHY Rate: Up to 10 Gbps
Generation: Wi-Fi 7, Wi-Fi 6E, Wi-Fi 6, Wi-Fi 5, Wi-Fi 4

Number of Ports: 5
Ports: 4x 2.5 GE, 10 GE
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Yup should be standard chip in every new wifi product.
BULK purchase should get MT best price :slight_smile:

I’m holding off waiting for the 5009 - WIFI 7 combo product… but Normis, why not add another 2.5 gig, as the Marvel chip allows up to 3 SerDes interfaces ( you only have a 10gig and 2.5g port). It also allows 8 gig ports and you have only seven. So I see at least one additional port added to make this device really SPICY!!
(note: I would say add a 5gig port, but there is no point as WAN throughput would probably max out around 3Mbps anyway)

I think MT should skip 6E noise, its a lame duck. ( trust MT to have a handle on market analysis - Wish they had more coders but a balance keeps company viable )

Calm down guys, we have such and better products planned, but development takes time :smiley: Like I have said previously, WiFI7 should take a lot less time, because now we have the new wifi drivers and that was the biggest delay by far, why AX products came later than desired.

This…
Just take my money!

How close do you sit to your router?

Give us routers that pass it.
Switches that can power access points and pass the full speed of traffic.
Then access points that match.

I am really happy to see my favorite equipment manufacturer catching WiFi 7train on time. :slight_smile:
@Normis, in theory, will we see great benefits from WiFi 7 in PtP enviroments (I hope that you’re planing to release something in that segment) ?

I just hope they release something with a MediaTek SoC at least eventually.

In my understanding, MikroTik has a very distinct pricing problem and its name is “IPQ-”. They use relatively high-end Qualcomm SoCs in routers that are there mostly to do dumb things.

Does an “ax lite” really need an “IPQ-” class processor? And at the cost of giving up 5GHz entirely? Come back to your senses, Axlite! It was said that you would destroy overpriced hardware, not join it!

We really need a “hAP be lite” that would be true to the spirit of hAP ac lite. Make it $80-100. But make it fully tri-band, 802.11be and all. Or make it $50-70, and ditch either 2.4GHz or 6GHz. And if you need to use a MediaTek SoC to make this happen, do it. If RouterOS doesn’t support this because drivers or something, write better drivers. Don’t put all of your money on Qualcomm. Income diversification and stuff, basic investment advice.

And just please, pretty please, make it wall-mountable. You probably have some ac lite TC type cases lying around still, put them to good use.

From my perspective - I wish to get rid of my 3 Asus wifi 6 AX ZenWifi XT8 and replace them with Mikrotik routers. MikroTik hAP ax3 seem way better, not in term of day to day use but in terms of security (who cares about speed in Belgium when the best ISP provides 400mbs to 1gps). It still feels remotely dumb to spend 280 Euros to get these machines when wifi 7 is about to arrive. What I am most concerned about is SECURITY. Asus WPA3 Personnal comes in with a hidden WPA2-PSK-CCMP signal that is most likely used by the device to manage mesh. That seems to defeat the whole purpose of having a WPA3 only network. Asus firmware crashes for weird reasons. It’s buggy - not documented and does not come with a lot of security hardening options. My wish list for a new device would include a new device alert option as well as all kinds of hardening opportunities for things that are to detect for routers but that should be part of WIFI defence: WIDS/WIPS, rogue access point detection & alerts, same for evil twins, jamming & deauth attack detections, preventions & alerting. I am not a major expert, but that’s what I find missing for homes AP / wireless routers. Sometimes people just do mischief on home networks just because they are good with these topics and know that most devices won’t notice / alert.

@PG, MT has been busy over the past (seems like a century) year or two, modernizing their WIFI setup in RoS and thus the transition for them to adopt WIFI7 should be relatively smooth.

Out of NOWHERE!!!

I got an email from a distro about a basebox 6!
MIKROTIK RB912UAG-6HPND-OUT

???
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This is in the 6GHZ band that we will need to register GPS to do outdoor Wifi7

This BaseBox 6 is from 2019 or even 2018. Far from Wifi 7.

But it’s about one the Frequencies needed for 7.

Carrier frequency can always be adjusted upwards pretty much without problem, except for penetration power and difficulty of building multiplier circuitry. If you can use WiFi 7 on 2.4 GHz, you can use it on 5, 6, 7, 57 or 69.420 GHz, as long as local regulations allow it. This is what they did here with WiFi 4. Frequency is not a problem, supporting the standard and extensions is.