📣 WinBox 4 is here 📣

[marsbeetle]

Not seeing this in your list @normis - please show the most recent log entries at the top. You should not have to scroll to the bottom each time.

[normis]

new entries are added to the bottom

[marsbeetle]

new entries are added to the bottom

Then that is where the focus should go first, not to the oldest log entry.

[normis]

Have you seen the RouterOS Log window? Same. New entries at the bottom.

[lachim]

Please, will there be a feature to open connection in new Winbox?
I use many connections at time, and each time I connect to new router, I have to enter password for list of saved connections. In old Winbox, I could have just one windows opened with saved connections unlocked and routers launched in new windows.

[Saduff]

Saduff, we managed to repeat the issue. It does not crash the router, but there is high load and a delay, when the Workspace tries to load certain non-existing switch related windows. We are fixing it.

Edit: Although it turns out, this is a RouterOS bug, not winbox. I also added it to the list.

Okay, glad to hear. Yes, I figured it’s a RouterOS bug, but only WinBox 4 can trigger it.

On another note, I would like to be able to save devices together with a workspace like it used to be with sessions in v3. So when connecting to a saved device, it would open the saved workspace automatically. Using for this is not a solution.

[marsbeetle]

Have you seen the RouterOS Log window? Same. New entries at the bottom.

Apologies my mistake. I thought this was a new application with opportunities for improvements.

How do you read your emails in your inbox? Oldest first and back to front ?

[normis]

Please stop this nonsense.
This forum has new messages on the bottom.
Same with chats etc.

[normis]

On another note, I would like to be able to save devices together with a workspace like it used to be with sessions in v3. So when connecting to a saved device, it would open the saved workspace automatically. Using for this is not a solution.

Why is not the solution? It is exactly the same as it was in winbox3

[Saduff]

On another note, I would like to be able to save devices together with a workspace like it used to be with sessions in v3. So when connecting to a saved device, it would open the saved workspace automatically. Using for this is not a solution.

Why is not the solution? It is exactly the same as it was in winbox3

Yes, it’s the same in v3 and I don’t use it there either for the exact same reason. I want to be able to assign named workspaces to devices like you can assign sessions in v3.

If you use , it only applies to one IP. What if I need to connect via MAC, but want the same workspace?
Or, let’s say I have multiple similar devices where I always want the same workspace. If I use and change some windows around in one device, it’s not going to update for another device. With named workspaces, it would update and stay in sync for all devices using the same workspace.

I’m not saying is bad, I still use it sometimes. It’s just not the solution for this use case.

Edit: Or, put another way. I want to be able to double-click on a device and have it open with its saved workspace without having to pick the workspace each time manually. works for that, but does not allow sharing.

[normis]

But you can do that - create new workspaces and name them with meaningful names. You can have 10 or 20, doesn’t matter. Select the needed one when connecting, or even change to another one while connected.

Edit: OK so you want winbox to remember which workspace you used last

[Saduff]

Edit: OK so you want winbox to remember which workspace you used last

Yes. Well, WinBox already remembers the last used workspace globally, but I want it to remember per device.

Select the needed one when connecting, or even change to another one while connected.

I don’t want to manually pick the right workspace for a device, I want it to be saved together with the device, so all I have to do is double click on it. It could be called a default workspace for the device.

[adam234]

Suggested improvements

• keyboard shortcuts for disable/enable, search, repeat search, create new row, edit comment, create copy, open context menu, move row up/down, open new winbox
• keyboard shortcut manual (and hints when mouse hover over buttons)
• have option to connect to router without closing launch window (good for having prefilled password without necessity to “keep password” for ever)
• change launch window title like: WinBox 4.0 - Launcher/Start/Addresses
• possibilty to load passwords from keepass xc (or use ssh-agent)
• little more visualy separeted active row (to seperate it from selected rows)
• move copy button from within opened form into context-menu on active row or add “new from selected” next to “new” button (it is not good UX to have copy inside opened form because it can often end up by editing form instead of creating new one and then edit it)
• add launcher or search through menu/commands (eg.: shift-ctrl-p will open quick search over command and writing something like “nat” will display ipv6/firewall/nat and ip/firewall/nat for quick opening of this tables)
• add dashboard table (with possible customization: in first column user can add command to retrieve value or list of values like interface traffic or number of current wifi clients, and in other col,umns show this values with regular renewing)

[infabo]

Big Sur here. Error handling is apparently not the highest of priorities in this beta - it is ok - beta break idc. It would help to have some kind of log file which I could hand over to Mikrotik for inspection. But logging/debugging is apparently no top prio either. And I guess a “I hit the update button” is of no special help for developers. lol

Can you clarify what you mean? Or make a support ticket. This type of general complaining does not help anyone, just spams the topic.

This quotes message from me is only to understand with my previous message.

In simple word:

I have Winbox 4 beta3 installed on my Macbook running Big Sur. I installed the Winbox app on my desktop (from DMG dragged to desktop). I opened Winbox beta3. I see the “Update available” info on right top of window. I click on the Update button. Then the download-progress dialog appears. When download-dialog progress bar reached 100% Winbox closed itself. It did not open again. The icon on the desktop was gone. No Winbox Icon in launcher either. Winbox was just removed from my MacOS system completely.

Now, with that experienced. What can I provide to support as hard-facts? Just my story-telling? I guess this story won’t provide much debugging-info for support.

It would be a good idea to create crash-reports, debug-logs, etc. which can be accessed in a easy way. So one can take these files and hand them over to support for deeper analysis. Like we have supout.rif for ROS.

It is a beta version. It is expected to crash any time. And when it happens, there should be a evidence in log-files.

[Kanzler]

I opened Winbox beta3. I see the “Update available” info on right top of window. I click on the Update button. Then the download-progress dialog appears. When download-dialog progress bar reached 100% Winbox closed itself. It did not open again. The icon on the desktop was gone. No Winbox Icon in launcher either. Winbox was just removed from my MacOS system completely.

The same issue on MacOS Monterey.

[bajodel]

Yes. Well, WinBox already remembers the last used workspace globally, but I want it to remember per device.

Saved devices should save the linked workspace!! definitely!
Winbox3 works like that and we are used to it.

[Zaesch]

Bugreport:
Sometimes the mouse pointer is off one item. e.g.: I point on the “Log” menu item and “Files” is highlighted. Dragging the window around “solves” the issue. Can’t find a way to provoke it yet, but will try to further.
Edit: Windows Client with Windows 10 Pro 22H2 (19045.3803)

• 1 for groups
  I know they will get back in time, but I want to emphasize it.

[normis]

I have Winbox 4 beta3 installed on my Macbook running Big Sur. I installed the Winbox app on my desktop (from DMG dragged to desktop). I opened Winbox beta3. I see the “Update available” info on right top of window.

Infabo, the macOS Apps should be located in the Applications directory, not on your desktop. I guess this is where the issue lies. Desktop is by default in the cloud (on new macs)

[normis]

But well Infabo is not the only one, there is at least one other person with a similar issue. We are investigating (as seen in my known issue list)

[infabo]

But your DMG installer did not offer me a way to add the app to the App directory. Other installers look like a drag-drop window showing the application you want to install, besides a text like “drag to app directory”. You drag the icon and it is installed. But the Mikrotik Winbox installer window is just a window with an icon. How to drag it to app directory? Must I open the Finder app and navigate manually to a system app folder and then drag it there? That cant be the way to go.

Thats how an 0815 installer should look like:

The one from Winbox is just the Winbox icon in an empty window. So I did not find a way to drag it to Application. So I dragged it to desktop instead.