Cat6 LGH LTE Super bad performance

I think im done trying Mikrotik LTE devices, their performance are worse than you could imagine, with samsung s8 im getting around 60mbps with 4G+ here, and as much as I tried with the LGH CAT 6, The download speed never exeeded 18mbps, this is with aggregation connecting twice at 20mhz and 15 mhz to the cellular tower .

Indoor devices and LTE modems would give way better performance if put in the right place .

Anyone else has the same bad performance ?

First you have LHGR with R11e-LTE6 who have 30° signal focus. Remember that you have got limit at 100MbEthernet port.
I go with my sxtr and lhgr to 600m from bts and do testing with the best signal on few bts’s and receive ~95/35-45Mbps as stable speed.

At SXTR I have and test the new beta firmware and this show me that new release candidate v22 give you a boost of speed in aggregation.
One @20Mbps band with good signal can reach more then limitation of FastEthernet port then maybe you should check the speed per every band, check near bts with perfect signal scenario your the best transfers and from that check what is wrong.

Ok First off thank you for your input, and let me explain more about the issue :

The site actually has 3 Mikrotik LTE devices: LHGR Cat6 , SXT Cat 6 Version, and the older SXT LTE device, the Older SXT LTE has been installed a year or more ago, and we have been trying to install the 2 extra new devices Cat6 since yesterday as we “proposed” an upgrade to our customer network for this site and multiple extra sites .. The frustration slap on the face came hard to me when I found out my phone (inside the building) gives triple the speed of the LHGR cat6 and the SXT cat 6 (Mikrotik uploads are higher reaches 40mbps but the download stuck at 17mbps max in both devices) .. then the biggest disappointment came when I mounted the SXT Cat6 exactly beneath the older SXT LTE, and I did speed test with both … The Older SXT LTE gave around 39mbps Download , the Cat6 SXT gave only 17mbps (with link aggregation and only 10mbps without), I tried right and left nothing changes notice the same aiming is counted for both devices.

I have upgraded to the latest ROS stable version (6.46.2), and went for the beta (6.47.19) on the LHGR, nothing changed, I tried to change the MTU and such still nothing changed … (the OLD SXT LTE was on version 6.40 something)

There is something wrong im doing idk where, I am mounting the devices on a roof of a building with 3 floors not on the ground .

Anything else suspicious ?

Are your older and newer devices connecting to same tower, cells, bands, etc?

hgb

Of course.
First, you should know what Band’s are used before because LHGR and SXTR have got difference in Gain per Band.
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This B8 = 900Mhz have better signal by back site, not front of devices and in France with 700Mhz is the same.

Other case is you can place the same way device but they can connect to other band(s) and have other speed-s. Check speedtest per every band !.
I always recommend to do in every band record of Band/CellID/eNB/avg. speedtest from few tests/rsrp and sinr. This records per bands give you information.
If on all bands the eNB is differ then you know that connection is done with differ TOWER even that lghr is a sector 30° antenna.

I can agree and say sure - Cat.6 not add speed with 2CA but I know that is fixed in next firmware version (other long history) who have now a Release Candidate. I do CellLock on Band3 as primary-band to have his biggest speed and ca-band is automatical added and give me stability but without celllock the slow band with better signal is winning automatical process selection and at finish I have slow speed - this was at lte6 with firmware v20.

You can reach the same speed what old sxt lte 3-7 or sxtr+r11e-lte on new devices like lhgr and sxtr with modem r11e-lte6.

I am also facing issues with SXT R - Installed a UK 3 SIM - Speed Test 2 to 4mbps

on my mobile we get nearly full bars and with a speed test we get 30 to 60 mbps

I have upgraded all firmware.

I got fed up with the issues on the THREE network, which i thought it was 3 anyway. So i changed to Vodafone UK

Mikrotik - 20mbps
Mobile - 100mbps

pin-status: ok
registration-status: registered
functionality: full
manufacturer: “MikroTik”
model: “R11e-LTE6”
revision: R11e-LTE6_V020
current-operator: 3 UK
lac: 6168
current-cellid: 1646598
enb-id: 6432
sector-id: 6
phy-cellid: 388
access-technology: Evolved 3G (LTE)
session-uptime: 4h3m46s
imei: 0000000000000
imsi: 00000000000
uicc: 000000000
subscriber-number: “My Number”,“+4499999999”,145
primary-band: B20@5Mhz earfcn: 6175 phy-cellid: 388
rssi: -52dBm
rsrp: -81dBm
rsrq: -13.5dB
sinr: 7dB
cqi: 10
ri: 2

I’m finding the signal very erratic also. the unit is looking straight at the mast. NO trees or buildings. Around 3 miles away. Current speed test 3.2mbps!

There appears to be NO CA Band.

Please help!

I can try but you region haven’t a good information on coverage of fast lte.. when I check at CellMapper.net who can be not updated… .
Thanks that you share that INFO details - they can give me point of checking.
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So i changed to Vodafone UK
current-operator: 3 UK

This give info that you have still 3 UK in MikroTik
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CellMapper is a site with location of BTS/eNB and what Sector Antenna are installed with what Band and BandWidth … at your ISP 3 UK I see only that one in your region. More info or more LTE Tower have got EE and winner is Vodafone UK but I haven’t idea what you have in real world.
You should do a cell-monitor and thy it in differ world site’s to determine your area.
See the signal of your current CellID:
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primary-band: B20@5Mhz earfcn: 6175 phy-cellid: 388

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This B20 is one of slowest (compare to B3 > B1 > B7 who are THREE KING’s of LTE in EMEA and R11e-LTE6 only do 2CA: B3+B7 between them).
At http://anisimoff.org/eng/lte_throughput_calculator.html is this info about max your speed when you are near to BTS…:
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And you have got your:

rsrp: -81dBm
rsrq: -13.5dB
sinr: 7dB
cqi: 10

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Who are not the best and not the worst… but your cell are connecting with only @5Mhz and not @20Mhz :frowning: and without additional ca-band.

When I try search other ISP and other BTS then I see all with B20@5Mhz or B20@10Mhz :(… and one exception with Vodafone:

FINAL:

Mikrotik - 20mbps
Mobile - 100mbps

This means you should install Mobile APP who give information whith one BTS you are connected, on what Band and BandWidth etc.. because I haven’t that information online and CellMapper is not proper as you can see via my limitation.

Android: Network Cell Info Lite > Data tab.
At MikroTik you can do a Cell-Monitor to scan what your MikroTik see in air. Remember to not set CellLock and specific band because your RB see only this band or cell.
Do:

# Disable CellLock - AutoSellect Cell
interface lte at-chat lte1 input="AT*Cell=0"
# Select 3g and LTE
interface lte set lte1 network-mode=3g,lte
# Select All Band-s means no one specific to enable
interface lte set lte1 !band
# SCAN YOUR AIR and search good band! Slow to Speed are: B8/B20/B3/B1/B7. SXTR is 60° and LHGR is 30° and move device and scan again until you do 360°.
interface lte cell-monitor lte1

Now you see your ISP only. Not work in roaming because show still your original BTS only.
Check every new EARFCN in https://www.cellmapper.net/arfcn to find a Band and possibility BandWidth of this band.
Slow to Fast EARFCN are in range:

  • B20: 6150->6449
  • B3: 1200->1949
  • B1: 0->599
  • B7: 2750->3449

My example: I have only two Band possibility in every BTS in Poland and those are:

I hope I give you some idea and new information.
Good Luck

and you can always install Cellmapper app on your Android phone to see your all LTE info - not only connected BS but all others too.

uldise

Yes, but he not have one good feature, MAPS
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Thank you for the feedback.

I changed this site to Vodafone and service is much better.

However, I have another site that during the day we get 60 to 70 mbps on three, but during the evening it appears to drop the larger frequency and CA.

Any advice? Vodafone only gives around 10mbps here…
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Again, avoid using B20 and 5Mhz bandwith..

I can write but you not write back what with the scanning, you run the “cell-monitor” ?

I changed this site to Vodafone and service is much better.

Sorry. I am technician. You write marketing. Better means results of what band/bandwitdh/sinr/cqi and speedtest - those are parameters better then “much better”.

However, I have another site that during the day we get 60 to 70 mbps on three, but during the evening it appears to drop the larger frequency and CA.

Better answer will be. At BandX in ISP_X I receive good speed. When I use other BTS and BandX then … .
When I have details then I can write feedback.
For now I think you should note the details in day and night and compare them to know what is change. Maybe this is only BTS and his FUP/FAP policy or you change Band and bts during day.

Any advice? Vodafone only gives around 10mbps here…

Of course. I monitor this forum by keyword “SiB” “lte” to give advice when I have possibility to.

Record parameters form INFO command.
Remember that B8/20 are always slow and when you have @5Mhz is slow too.
Fast is when you use B3 or better B1 or better and winner B7 ++ all those B3/1/7 should work with @20Mhz width ++ the CA works with B3+B7 or B3/1/7+B8/20.

Read about CellLock. I have situation that my B3 is fast but B8 is slow.
Automatically I receive B8+B3 and in result I always have slow primary B8 :frowning:
I do a CellLock to B3 to setup it as primary band and have fast speed. Additional the B8 as assigned as second leg who improve stability.
That way CellLock fix my situation but I do research and many test, cell-monitor etc. even I go with lte modem and check what my around me bts give me a speedtest.net/run at every single Band - that way I know what/who/witch BTS give fast B3 24/7 and witch one have terrible FUP/FAP policy and in day give 1/3 and at night 20/6.

Previous post I write long to give you as much hint to you. I hope you can use it proper way.

Man I thought I was the only one. I am having all of the same problem. ALL OF THE SAME.

1- Erratic signal. From full strength to 1 bar… It’s all over the place and I am barely over a mile away.

2- No matter what SIM I use NOR what carrier, it will not do anything other than “Evolved 3G” even though putting the SIM into a phone results in 4G LTE right away.

All but 2 bands are not supported. So I KNOW it should at least be connecting to those bands at 4g LTE. I have yet to find anybody with an answer. How did you solve the issue?

Gigair

You should enable script’s to monitor the change of eNB/CellID etc. in time to discover what change that your signal is change rapid.
I assume that the change of Band happend and differ band’s have differ signal level and of course speed as result.
I have similar situation using r11e-LTE6 with only 2 band accessible and one is slow with good signal and second fast with low signal and the modem itself one time prefer a and sometimes prefer opposite one. All this in 4G-LTE Cat.6 who give us 2xBand connection.
The primary-band only show signals on LED’s.
I fix this by 2 ways:

  • select only band who give me speed with low signal - that way I use modem as Cat.4 device only with one active band
  • use Cell-Lock to specific Band/CellID to force exact Band as primary-band and that way my preffered band is used and signals at LED give me the always the same results. Of course the second ca-band is used automatically. In my situation device can stuck in offline and I use own checking and fixing script.

Please check and use this script to monitor of change the LTE parameters: http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/sxt-lte-4g-cat6/134468/1


2- No matter what SIM I use NOR what carrier, it will not do anything other than “Evolved 3G” even though putting the SIM into a phone results in 4G LTE right away.
All but 2 bands are not supported. So I KNOW it should at least be connecting to those bands at 4g LTE. I have yet to find anybody with an answer. How did you solve the issue?

What issue?
Evolved 3G (LTE) or Evolved 3G (LTE CA2) = Next Generation of 3G = Newer then 3G = 4G = LTE
I not understand the question.

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Again, avoid using B20 and 5Mhz bandwith.


how ? … and why ?
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This B20 is one of slowest (compare to B3 > B1 > B7 who are THREE KING’s of LTE in EMEA and R11e-LTE6 only do 2CA: B3+B7 between them).


where got that wisdom from ??
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Just tested new delivered RBLtAP-2HnD&R11e-LTE6 … and so far I’m seeing similiar performance as with my huawei-pad.
No reason to get lost in frenetic jubilation, but since my old teltonika maxed-out at 5 MBit/s download speed … I’m o.k. so far.
Guess I have to repeat tests later at night, when the horny folks chilled down and traffic is low.

But again … whats wrong with B20 ?
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pad:
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router:
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guess it’s not that simple ?!
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… maybe country-specific delicacies ?!
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would be interesting ( … for me)
which (and where) is the highest speed ever scored to a cellular network with the latest mt-hardware (R11e-LTE6)

gentlemen … start your engines !
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!!! B O O Y A C A S H A !!!
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in front of the peloton:
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!!! FF … FF … FF … F L O A T Y !!!
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floaty

Please read this one post: http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/sxt-lte6-carrier-aggregation-3uk/137455/1
With CellLock at this B1 as primary-band you reach better speed.
Read part about cell-monitor feature!.

Of course proper documentation what you should read first is here: https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Interface/LTE#Using_Cell_lock

LTE is just slow here with all providers. It has nothing to do with the equipment or issues.

3G is simply unusable.

I noticed big slowdowns today on several sites (wired). I assumed it was all the people at home.