Still cannot config route-distinguisher in VRF
And typing “?” on CLI just gives red warning, instead of list of possible commands
“?” has been replaced by F1
Well noted on this, thanks!
Hi Raimonds,
Why was this changed?
v7rc2 … is a release candidate #2 for version 7.0.0
v7.1rc2 … is a release candidate #2 for version 7.1.0
My first guess based on history is change quotas. ROS7 is the star citizen of networking.
Hi,
There are two reasons for this change:
- It confused new users who wanted to type actually “?” (required “?”)
- Copy-pasting data containing “?” produced side effects. Imagine you want to post a URL (e.g. “https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewforum.php?f=1”) into the ROS console, but it displays the help in-between instead of pasting the “?” character.
It takes time to get used to a new hotkey. To be honest, I didn’t get used to F1 myself and still occasionally typing “?” when I need help. However, I don’t see it as such a big problem.
P.S. There is an internal discussion to restore the old “?” behavior based on the context. It could mean that the ROS console will try to guess if the user wants help or the “?” character at the current cursor position. While F1 will always display help and “?” always lead to the character. But those are only discussions. No promises for the implementation 
Confirmed, this is still an issue on my CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS. PCAP shows UDP datagrams with correct lengths but filled with zeroes, no useful data.
When you start replacing console hotkeys that are plain ASCII characters with “function keys” it may be time to finally replace the Ctrl-V hotkey with something else!
People think (and rightly so!) that Ctrl-V means “paste” and they are quite surprised when they see the effect in a console (usually they think something is defective).
Or, perhaps easier to implement, the suggestion already given by somebody else: make help key configurable with F1 default setting. For all farts like myself (and many other forum users) used to “?” it would be easy to change it back to what it was before … those who will do it, are probably well used to the peculiarities of using “?” on console.
If you know Cisco, then you know to use ? for help. It should be an option or intelligently checked if you want to type ? or want help instead
Why, should not 7.0.0 be finished before starting to work on 7.1.0.
This is just confusing, working on RC2 on two different train at the same time.
Thank you for the insight.
I am online again thanks to my Hex-S. The 4011 won’t accept Netinstall and I can now at least read up on Netinstall. Going back to 6.49Beta36 did not help this time and the I have no access through IP and no Internet.
When I start Netinstall it sees the router and when I press install it says offering and after 30 seconds ready…and nothing happened. The bar does not fill up.
Update:
Tried it with a different computer, the result is the same. No progress.
There is no 7.0.0
There is only 7.1 RC1, that will lead to 7.1
Well, Netinstall is usually confusing to new users and while I have used it before, when I required to netinstall a device recently it again was a pain to get it working.
You have to jump through the right hoops at the right time, or else it will not work. When you have to use it first time to recover your main internet router, and it does not work, don’t despair. “you probably are not holding it right” as the fanboys of some other brand say. You will have to keep reading and trying.
I went an other way and installed 6.48.2 of which I had backup. Then went up to my latest beta again 6.49beta36. I tried to restore 4 backups that I made in last months and no one want to stick despite they were made on the 6.49beta36. I just stayed on the 6.48.2 backup. I have the feeling that something in the background is really messed up by ROS 7.1RC2
Before upgrading I made a backup and RSC file so I can restore all, but it will be troublesome.
THANK GOD FOR THE .RSC FILE BACKUP!!
Don’t trust your .backup files because your router will spit them out like spoiled fruit, not telling that it was spoiled in the first place. Four months of backup files are unusable.
What is this then:
7RC2 thread
and this thread
7.1RC
I thought 7RC2=7.0RC2?? because its not 7.1RC2
I will ask daily, no worries.