V7.20.4 [stable] is released!

Known issues.

Still don’t work microsd cardreaders on usb modems (huawei e3372, both s and h versions, hilink mode)

Are you sure that it's a vital funcionality for a router?

Not vital, but a missing "quick win".

Considering that the license is tied to the NAND flash drive's serial number, and if you replace NAND, you'll lose the license too? Yeah, I'm sure I'd rather replace 1GB microSD drive every once in a while than lose the license.

And you expect to have that licence SD card installed in USB modem's stick?
Where the stick is connected to?
to the Mikrotik's router: no need or even IMHO no way to save license on the external drive
to PC running ROS: just use other standard card reader that works with ROS
to virtual machne: there is virtual disk

You don’t understand!

Having a microSD card in a USB modem stick makes it double as a USB storage stick where you can store files instead of wearing out the onboard flash.

Yea,

There is a topic: "How many times yor NAND died?" and the conslusion is: we can count it on fingers on one or maybe two hands or maybe both legs.
On the other hand :slight_smile: I agree that more device serviced would be nice but on the other other hand focusing on servicing all possible devices is a waste of time.

Aside from the wear of the flash (I have seen routers where that is a problem, but they are older types like RB2011 and RB750r1/r2) the storage space on the microSD card can be a lot more than in the router itself.

I think a normal Linux system sees it without problem, but I am not sure.

And my answer was

Since 2007 never a single problem with this, even in devices with the user-manager in the NAND Flash

and it still true...

If everyone is (correctly) advised to try and minimize as much as possible writes to NAND this is not too surprising.

We need some more accurate metrics, like:

  1. theoretical number of writes before wear becomes relevant
  2. whether this theoretical limit actually applies in practice
  3. average writes per day (over - say - one week operations)
    to be able to assess an actual reasonable max amount of writes and duration of the nand.

But, having removable (expendable) storage surely would be an added feature allowing more freedom to write as much as you want.

I don’t want check will die nand or not when i can just use external storage. Now i need find some script, which will exec modprobe usb_storage and modprobe sd_modwhen mikrotik startup)

Thanks for the update! Great to see the fixes for BGP, PPPoE, and routing filters. I was recently checking a date difference tool while testing a similar setup. Will test 7.20.4 on a few devices and report back if anything comes up.

If you don’t use flash - it don’t die. In my plans using flash as storage for entware installation (yep, i want entware on my rb951)

is it supposed to work at all on ROS?

I don’t think it is possible on a RB951 - It is MIPSBE.

You need to upgrade to a device with ARM or ARM64.

I don't know what you guys are arguing about all day.

It's an undeniable fact that Mikrotik software is of poor quality.

Can't you choose other brands? For example, I only use Mikrotik devices for the node that forwards data from my local network to the internet because I can't accept having an unstable switch and wireless AP on my local network.

Sounds like a “you problem”.

I never had one of my a mikrotik APs give up.

And the “bugs” of AX APs were also present at the competition.
Many of my U.. died :slight_smile:

Mikrotik used in many companies and i need learn how work with it, but also i want normal software and fo this i try install entware)

I already have root shell with bash and busybox) Now i need just add /opt folder for bind mount and some startup script, with will run modprobes, mount directory and start unslung script